Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 After receiving complaints about a PIF (Public Improvement Fund) charge at local stores a Colorado TV station investigated and found this is spreading throughout the state. The libs cannot find enough ways to screw people out of their money. 3 2 2 Quote
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 They might charge me once. After that, I'll be taking my business elsewhere. 4 1 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Unbelievable!! I love the OPM! Just keep on bleeding the public!😡 1 Quote
Rip Snorter Posted January 13 Posted January 13 “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” ― Margaret Thatcher 2 6 Quote
Cypress Sun Posted January 13 Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: They might charge me once. After that, I'll be taking my business elsewhere. I'd be returning the item(s) to the store, getting my money back, tell them they could shove the PIF where the sun doesn't shine and then never return to the store. Although it wasn't just Target that is charging the PIF, I haven't set foot in a Target store in almost 20 years due to their company philosophy. 5 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 10 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: I'd be returning the item(s) to the store, getting my money back, tell them they could shove the PIF where the sun doesn't shine and then never return to the store. Although it wasn't just Target that is charging the PIF, I haven't set foot in a Target store in almost 20 years due to their company philosophy. When they put out LGBT clothing for children that did it for me! Never again! Their prices were never that great either! 1 1 Quote
Calamity Kris Posted January 13 Posted January 13 We have them out here. I thought it had to do with the shopping center the Target is in. I guess not. Quote
Rip Snorter Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) The peculiar thing, having dealt with them as a vendor years back before I retired, is that their sales analytics were excellent. I doubt their abilities have declined - they must know the cost of what they are doing! Edited January 13 by Rip Snorter Typo Quote
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said: The peculiar thing, having dealt with them as a vendor years back before I retired, is that their sales analytics were excellent. I doubt their abilities have declined - they must know the cost of what they are doing! The problem is 99% of their customer base will just say “Ok” and keep buying… 2 Quote
Cypress Sun Posted January 13 Posted January 13 11 minutes ago, Calamity Kris said: We have them out here. I thought it had to do with the shopping center the Target is in. I guess not. The way I read the video is that the developer of the site that the store sits on has made an agreement with the individual stores to charge the PIF to "improve" and "maintain" the site somewhat like what an HOA does. I imaging that the majority of the money collected does not return via "improvements" but rather gathers in the coffers of the developer for use in other investments or they just skim off the top into their pockets. Doesn't matter to me, I would never knowingly pay it and would shop elsewhere but I can honestly state that I've never seen anywhere around here....but I am going to start scrutinizing my receipts more carefully. 26 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: When they put out LGBT clothing for children that did it for me! Never again! Their prices were never that great either! For me it was when Target corporate made it clear that they did not support our troops. By the time they did the LGBT stuff I had already stopped visiting their stores for a long period of time prior to that. 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Sounds like the BS charges I found on my receipts in Niagara Falls in Canada. Quote
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Pat Riot said: Sounds like the BS charges I found on my receipts in Niagara Falls in Canada. My wife and I went to Niagara Falls in Canada once. ONCE!!! I swore never again! 1 Quote
watab kid Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: I'd be returning the item(s) to the store, getting my money back, tell them they could shove the PIF where the sun doesn't shine and then never return to the store. Although it wasn't just Target that is charging the PIF, I haven't set foot in a Target store in almost 20 years due to their company philosophy. me either - and dayton was our governor when all this fraud started 2 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said: Haven't run into a PIF yet. me either but im going to start watching closer - this state never saw a tax they couldnt embrace and the fraudsters never saw tax money trhey didnt want to take , if businesses saw a way to gouge us they would [in certain areas for sure] 1 Quote
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 I'm totally surprised I haven't seen it in california... yet! Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 14 hours ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said: The problem is 99% of their customer base will just say “Ok” and keep buying… Most people don't know and most of the rest simply don't care. It would require them to DO SOMETHING beside bitching about it and blaming others....but they just won't get up from the TV to do anything other than bitch and get another beer. 2 Quote
J.D. Daily Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Unless they are illegal buy state law it is likely that retailers in malls are charging them. The only advantage for the purchaser is that sales tax isn't likely charged on the PIF. Check a Walmart that isn't in a mall. Or buy on-line from Amazon or other on-line retailer that doesn't charge shipping. Quote
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Unbelievable! Thanks for the heads up. I fully embrace that I am becoming a curmudgeon, but this type of garbage has got to stop. I'm tired of being guilted into leaving a tip on a computer screen when I purchase a cup of coffee or being asked to donate to some cause almost every time I check out at a retail store. We are fortunate in Tennessee not to have a state income tax, but sales tax is close to 10% after the county gets a cut along with the state. Thankfully the wife and I escaped from our "tax happy" Northern state decades ago. Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 1/12/2026 at 11:04 PM, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said: My wife and I went to Niagara Falls in Canada once. ONCE!!! I swore never again! Agreed. American side, Yes. Canadian side, NO…not to stay and eat or make purchases. 1 Quote
WD Farren Posted January 15 Posted January 15 CA, CO and UT have ganged up on the consumer by implementing restrictive nanny laws for water heaters. I can no longer buy a 50 gallon, 40,000 BTU to replace my failed unit. I have to drive to Nevada to buy one as they are banned in these three states now. 2 Quote
watab kid Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 1/12/2026 at 11:57 PM, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: I'm totally surprised I haven't seen it in california... yet! id not seen it here either but i didnt have kids in daycare and i wasnt in the dot gove healthcare system , now they have uncovered more in the "transportation" of those that cant get to DRs appointments on their own = apparently billings for more patients than actually had appointments Quote
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