Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Yesterday was the last straw. By the second stage it was like my wife was shooting a single shot shotgun! If there hadn’t been a backup her day would’ve been ruined!! It’s an inertial action, but I just want it changed to mechanical at this point. The inertial action in this gun has been a disaster!! Who do y’all know who can do this? Apparently Johnny Meadows is not an option! There must be someone else, but I don’t know who. Any suggestions?
Jim Brown Posted January 11 Posted January 11 If she is shooting an SKB then Fast Eddie would one of the smiths with a good reputation.
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said: Yesterday was the last straw. By the second stage it was like my wife was shooting a single shot shotgun! If there hadn’t been a backup her day would’ve been ruined!! It’s an inertial action, but I just want it changed to mechanical at this point. The inertial action in this gun has been a disaster!! Who do y’all know who can do this? Apparently Johnny Meadows is not an option! There must be someone else, but I don’t know who. Any suggestions? Fast Eddie did mine. Randy
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 Ok, good to have names! BUT-contact information would be even MORE helpful!! Do I google their alias’s?
Eyesa Horg Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Or go to this pinned link https://forums.sassnet.com/index.php?/topic/311362-cowboy-gunsmiths/#comment-4793767
Krazy Kajun Posted January 11 Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said: Ok, good to have names! BUT-contact information would be even MORE helpful!! Do I google their alias’s? Just sent you a message with Fast Eddie's contact information. If you need anything else let me know. Kajun
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Have you tried doing a deep flush/clean internally of the receiver?
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 23 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Have you tried doing a deep flush/clean internally of the receiver? Way beyond my limited knowledge! Heres the thing-a well known gunsmith worked on it TWICE at EOT last year and it STILL had problems!! Something is seriously wrong with this gun!! Which also upsets me that whoever sold me the gun didn’t mention its problem!! HAD to know!!😡
Tall John Posted January 12 Posted January 12 4 hours ago, Leroy Luck said: Doc Noper in Michigan is who I’d recommend Doc has done two guns for me!
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 Fast Eddie is gonna fix us up at EOT!! But thanks for the input everyone!
Texita Draw SASS#77940 Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Cbeaux in Clarksville TX Great cowboy ! Great gunsmith PM for contact info
Longfoot Posted January 12 Posted January 12 The switch mechanism in these really is pretty simple. Are you mechanically competent and comfortable? The mechanism consists of a sear/switch block, a small coil spring and the sears on the back end of the sear levers. If you haven't had the butt stock off, I encourage you to have a look. If it's simply gummed up, you may be able to simply clean it up. Also worth considering, does it switch fine for you or others but not your wife. My partner experienced failures to switch with the gun that became hers, until she learned to assume what she refers to as her, "Outta MY Yard!" stance. These are inertial guns, they need a reasonable foundation to provide the necessary 'stop'. Their worst combo is a LNLR load, with a good tight hold to the shoulder, but both feet placed evenly under the shoulders providing a nice slow catch to the recoil.
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 Mechanically incompetent !! I took a gun apart once & couldn’t get it back together! So I leave gunsmithing to the experts! The featherlights work fine in MY SKB, and they worked fine in HERS after she got the backup out!
Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 Posted January 12 Posted January 12 7 hours ago, Longfoot said: The switch mechanism in these really is pretty simple. Are you mechanically competent and comfortable? The mechanism consists of a sear/switch block, a small coil spring and the sears on the back end of the sear levers. If you haven't had the butt stock off, I encourage you to have a look. If it's simply gummed up, you may be able to simply clean it up. Also worth considering, does it switch fine for you or others but not your wife. My partner experienced failures to switch with the gun that became hers, until she learned to assume what she refers to as her, "Outta MY Yard!" stance. These are inertial guns, they need a reasonable foundation to provide the necessary 'stop'. Their worst combo is a LNLR load, with a good tight hold to the shoulder, but both feet placed evenly under the shoulders providing a nice slow catch to the recoil. That's right -- a "problem" with ALL inertial reset systems is that the gun must be held firmly enough so that the parts designed to move from the impulse of the shot actually move, instead of the entire gun moving and absorbing (along with the shooter's body) that misdirected impulse. New shooters handling some semiautomatic pistols experience similar failures when they "limp-wrist" the pistol grip. When that happens, a portion of the impulse that is supposed to unlock and drive the slide fully rearward is misdirected into rotational energy when the gun does too much "muzzle flip," resulting in stove-piped empty cases and failures to feed.
Irish Pat Posted January 12 Posted January 12 I had that problem with my SKB when I first started shooting them. It is like shooting a 1911 if you let it roll like a revolver it will fail to eject. you have to hold the shotgun tight to the hammers will reset. ask me how I learn stuff
Longfoot Posted January 12 Posted January 12 5 hours ago, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said: Mechanically incompetent !! I took a gun apart once & couldn’t get it back together! So I leave gunsmithing to the experts! The featherlights work fine in MY SKB, and they worked fine in HERS after she got the backup out! O.K. Coaching you through self assessment and remedy is off the table. When using the smack of hand on butt pad method of switching in dry fire, does it require more or less smack if the right or left barrel is selected? If it switches easier on one direction than the other, it's most likely a sear related issue. If it's absolutely the same in both directs, it's most likely the inertial block spring or just general cleanliness. Best of luck. Im sure there's someone who can sort it. Don't hesitate to hand them the backup, so they have a measure of how light they need to make it for her.
Longfoot Posted January 12 Posted January 12 5 hours ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said: That's right -- a "problem" with ALL inertial reset systems is that the gun must be held firmly enough so that the parts designed to move from the impulse of the shot actually move, instead of the entire gun moving and absorbing (along with the shooter's body) that misdirected impulse. New shooters handling some semiautomatic pistols experience similar failures when they "limp-wrist" the pistol grip. When that happens, a portion of the impulse that is supposed to unlock and drive the slide fully rearward is misdirected into rotational energy when the gun does too much "muzzle flip," resulting in stove-piped empty cases and failures to feed. Yep. I hear ya. Similar, but different. The pistol requires that the lower receiver/frame remain still, so that the energy is used to move the slide rearward and any energy absorbed by lower movement detracts from that. Our inertial switched shotguns require that the entire gun moves rearward with some velocity and then STOP when it hits the shoulder. It's the sudden deceleration that results in the inertial block continuing rearward, dropping the first trigger sear and engaging the other. I have seen instances where a "good tight hold to your shoulder" actually worked against consistant switching. The gun wasn't accelerating rearward enough. If the stance was good and solid, a less consciously firm hold provided consistent switching. Similarly I've witnessed seasonal switching issues, when heavy shearling coats and puffer jackets provided too soft a catch/stop. And, women specifically, seem to tend toward a weight back on heels posture that exacerbates these issues. When, if they drop their strong foot back a half foot or so and get their nose over their toes they're perfectly capable of providing the solid foundational back stop the gun needs.
Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Good points, Longfoot. The bottom line is that all of our guns are mechanical devices and they don't all work exactly the same way. That's why we practice -- to learn how to shoot our different guns in the ways that make them most reliably go BANG!
Max Payne Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Fast Eddie will be shooting at Florida State & at the Southwest Regional. I know you shoot the SWR, & I may have seen you at Florida. Of course, he'll also be a the Ga. State & Tennessee State.
largo casey #19191 Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Griner Gun Works here in New Mexico is a real good one. Largo
Oklahoma Dee Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Brad Finch, up in Amarillo Texas. Outstanding SKB gunsmith. Rifle and pistols as well.
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 6 hours ago, Oklahoma Dee said: Brad Finch, up in Amarillo Texas. Outstanding SKB gunsmith. Rifle and pistols as well. Longhunter?
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said: Longhunter? His son.
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 7 hours ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said: His son. Now I remember: JIM Finch is Longhunter!
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