Alpo Posted January 9 Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Stump Water said: Not allowed in Dad Driver's Ed. Perzactly Quote
Cypress Sun Posted January 9 Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said: With some of our hills and folks coming right up to your bumper at extreme up hill stop signs, it was needed. Heal toe was handy on those once you knew how to do it! I almost always used the heal/toe method on inclines. Haven't had a vehicle with a manual transmission in 26+ years though. 1 Quote
Eyesa Horg Posted January 9 Posted January 9 When I drove a standard many miles every day it wasn't much of an issue. But on steep hill, better safe than sorry! Folks don't leave much space for a roll back these days. Ya only get one shot at it before you're at their bumper! 1 Quote
WD Farren Posted January 9 Posted January 9 My middle granddaughter told me she bought her first car: a Honda 6-speed stick shift. Grampa is mighty proud and took her out and showed her the tricks. She is also grinning from ear to ear, because her older sister will never be able to drive that car. 3 1 1 Quote
Stump Water Posted January 9 Posted January 9 The Challenger has what they call Hill Start Assist. When stopped on an incline, when you take your foot off the brake the brakes hold for about five seconds or until you start to move forward. It is absolutely disconcerting. It just feels completely wrong. 2 2 Quote
Eyesa Horg Posted January 9 Posted January 9 2 hours ago, Stump Water said: The Challenger has what they call Hill Start Assist. When stopped on an incline, when you take your foot off the brake the brakes hold for about five seconds or until you start to move forward. It is absolutely disconcerting. It just feels completely wrong. But when that moron crawls up your butt on a steep hill, I'll bet it's handy!! Especially if you're driving a Challenger, don't want to be moving back into said moron!! Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 20 hours ago, watab kid said: i appreciate how he handled it but in my mind im wondering why they no longer teach stick shifts in drivers ed ? I haven't seen driver's ed in a public school in about 20 years. 1 Quote
Rip Snorter Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Nor Shop, nor Home Economics or Civics. Go Figure! 2 Quote
DeaconKC Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/8/2026 at 7:11 AM, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: I wouldn't let my kids get their DL until they both learned to drive the stick in my Jeep CJ7. If it was anything like my CJ7, that clutch was impressive! Quote
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 21 minutes ago, DeaconKC said: If it was anything like my CJ7, that clutch was impressive! I put a LUK clutch in a few years ago. Not bad at all. Also converted the mechanical clutch linkage over to Heim joints. Edited January 10 by The Original Lumpy Gritz 1 Quote
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 10 Posted January 10 21 hours ago, watab kid said: i appreciate how he handled it but in my mind im wondering why they no longer teach stick shifts in drivers ed ? I took DE in 1968(had to do so to graduate high school). No manual transmission required..... Quote
watab kid Posted January 10 Posted January 10 19 hours ago, Still hand Bill said: I took drivers Ed in the 80’s and it was all automatics. Now much like cursive, it’s a mostly unused skill. I would bet that in 10 years you won’t be able to buy a manual except for a few specialty vehicles. I am not sure Chevrolet even makes a single manual transmission car/truck now. Corvettes have been all automatic for a few years now. Cafe standards and consumer demand pretty much ended the use case for a manual. Now the manufacturers don’t want to spend the money on developing two different drive trains. in reading you post im sure your right , they have achieved the mileage requirements by going to computer controls of everything , a perfect example of government involvement dictating how we evolve - im not against the end results im just totally against the means as they stifle development at the grass roots level , institutionalize all of the models and block out the "out side of the box" thinking that really coms up with the "NEW" ideas 1 Quote
watab kid Posted January 10 Posted January 10 16 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: They don't even teach stick shift in TRUCK driver's school anymore. Most of the Big Trucks out there these days have automatics in them. The days of Double Clutchin' and Gear Jammin' are long gone. When I learned to drive a truck in 1990 I learned on a Road Ranger 10 speed. But in the early 2000s they started putting automatics in them. Nowadays, these "young'uns" have "Automatic Only" CDLs. does that limit them to only automatic trucks ? im seeing great issues in this , i think a lot of our national guard units still have manual shift truck , there are advantages - proven in multiple wars - teaching in multiple variations only make's sense - not all country's have our advantages and some are really backward , learning all makes sense to me - shifting , rifle platforms , whatever Quote
watab kid Posted January 10 Posted January 10 5 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: I haven't seen driver's ed in a public school in about 20 years. ive not seen it since the 60s but the ni wasnt looking for it , i just assumed it was continuing as it was more or less mandated back then in order to get your license i will divert the topic sideways here as we here - where i am - have seen an influx of somali imagran here and have noticed a rise in their having licenses without the required insurances that we citizens are required to carry in a "No fault" state , im not commenting on all the late model cars they are driving because i dont know where they got the funds to buy them when they are drawing welfare but the accidents are speaking for themselves 3 Quote
watab kid Posted January 10 Posted January 10 4 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: I took DE in 1968(had to do so to graduate high school). No manual transmission required..... really ? i took it only a few years earlier and we had to be able to drive manual to pass the simulator - before we got in the car OK it was a few years , i took it in 65/66 , by 68 i was graduating - by 69 i had my draft notice , and i was enrolled in college , im going to be honest here - i was driving a stick shift at 10 , a triumph TR3 , it just seems to me that everyone needs to know - kinda like needing to know how to swim , that wasa requirement in college for me in 69 - we could not graduate if you didnt know how to swim , i did - was fast as i swam all my life at that point , but i was astounded at those that didnt know , im still astounded at what i dont know as well as wgat others dont know that i take for granted because i do know 1 Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 8 hours ago, watab kid said: does that limit them to only automatic trucks ? im seeing great issues in this , i think a lot of our national guard units still have manual shift truck , there are advantages - proven in multiple wars - teaching in multiple variations only make's sense - not all country's have our advantages and some are really backward , learning all makes sense to me - shifting , rifle platforms , whatever That is correct. These guys are not allowed to drive a truck with a manual transmission. As far as I'm concerned, if a male can't drive a stick, his Man Card should be revoked. 2 Quote
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 10 Posted January 10 When I had Class 'A' CDL, you had to have a special endorsement for a manual transmission. Quote
Stump Water Posted January 10 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: As far as I'm concerned, if a male can't drive a stick, his Man Card should be revoked. It's not just a driving a stick. I have former co-workers and friends whose children I watched grow up - from infants to adults (late millennials & Gen Z I guess). When it came time, it was not unusual for the kid(s) to have no desire to learn to drive. In some cases the parents had even bought the kid a vehicle... nope. I know in my case, and I suspect most of y'all's here, I could not wait to get on the road. I learned first on grandpa's tractor when I was so little I had to look down the side of the cowling to see where I was going. Then in the farm trucks once I could see over the dash. 2 Quote
watab kid Posted January 11 Posted January 11 11 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: That is correct. These guys are not allowed to drive a truck with a manual transmission. As far as I'm concerned, if a male can't drive a stick, his Man Card should be revoked. im with you on that , Quote
Texas Maverick Posted January 11 Posted January 11 On 1/9/2026 at 7:55 PM, Rip Snorter said: Nor Shop, nor Home Economics or Civics. Go Figure! I graduated in 68 and tried to sign up for auto mechanics my senior year since we had to take an elective. They rejected my request and made me go into drafting. Said I was college material and they didn't want me taking up a space on some one that won't be going to college. The school did have home ec and those two electives. I only needed the elective and one other class to graduate so I took drafting and PE. Got out before lunch and headed to my job selling auto parts. Which is why I wanted auto mechanics. My granddad owned a parts store with a shop in back. I helped back there when it was slow up front so I had probably more knowledge that was being taught in school but didn't get the chance to find out. TM 2 Quote
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