got a Yankee land question

[Alpo]

I'm watching Miracle on 34th Street, which, as you know, takes place in New York City in late December.

 

There's snow everywhere, and in the night scenes, there is steam coming up out of the culverts.

 

Why is steam coming out of the sewers in New York City?

 

Realize, that I was raised down south, and we don't have snow and sub-zero winter temperatures. I've never seen steam coming out of the gutters in real life. But I see it frequently in movies that take place in New York City in the winter.

 

It would make sense if they were running hot water in the sewers, but I kind of doubt that.

 

I understand the subways used to be run by steam locomotives, but I don't think they are anymore. Pretty sure they're electric.

 

So why the steam?

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

It's warmer in the sewers that at street level. When warm meets cold you get condensation. Like an airplane contrail.

Edited January 3 by Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770

[Eyesa Horg]

When I worked in Hartford, CT, there were steam/cooling pipes running in manholes to various large buildings. Sometimes you'd see steam escaping, but not all the time . I presumed it was the cold and a leak. Sometimes we'd get frost buildup around telephone manholes, but it wasn't like a steam cloud.

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

But, what's your question about Yankee land?   You asked about subways in New York.   Yankee land is New England, of which New York is not a part.

I are confused.

[Alpo]

10 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

I are confused

Yes. Yes you are.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

40 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

But, what's your question about Yankee land?   You asked about subways in New York.   Yankee land is New England, of which New York is not a part.

I are confused.

 

30 minutes ago, Alpo said:

Yes. Yes you are.

perpetually perplexed meets confused.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

57 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

But, what's your question about Yankee land?   You asked about subways in New York.   

It don't GET anymore yankee than New York. At least it didn't used to. Now I guess New York is going a different direction.

Edited January 3 by Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

New York is NOT a part of New England!   It is therefore not Yankee!   Yankee's are only found in Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and the eastern half of Connecticut.  (The southwest corner especially has been occupied by foreigners.)  

Seriously, Yankee = Someone from New England.  There are sub definitions, but that's the main one.

 

Yankees put cheddar cheese on apple pie, not ice cream, we drink Moxie, (Well some of us do.  It's an acquired taste) are not interested in College Sports, know what the difference is between Jimmies and Sprinkles, are some of the worst drivers in all the universe, are sadly dominated by idiot liberals, have a profound sense of history, sort of, can't stand Starbucks, (Dunkin' Donuts rules) curse the existence of traffic circles, which are called rotaries, not roundabouts, (especially when some moron goes and puts one right off the Battle Green in Lexington) never eat fish west of the Hudson river, have the best pizza in the country, tend to be very full of ourselves and provincial, have the best ballpark in the world, use landmarks like big rocks and Dunkin' Donuts shops when giving directions, and consider at least some of the above to be proper.  

Oh, and we are very offended by the idea that the New York Highlanders renamed their baseball team the "Yankees" in a clear violation of reality.  The lawsuit to get them to stop calling them that is still pending.

Seriously, there is something strangely entertaining, and ironic about being in Fenway Park and listening to 35,000 New Englanders shout "YANKEES SUCK!" at the top of their lungs.  

 

And we NEVER try to park the car in Harvard Yard.  It would get towed.   That, and the phrase has become something of a shibboleth.  Even locals can't say it without ridiculously overdoing their accent to the point where it sounds faked.   

Nobody talks like Cliff Claven, nobody talks like Charles Emerson Winchester III, only the Kennedys talk like them, and no one from Hollywood should be allowed to attempt any kind of a New England accent.  They will get it wrong.  Heck, even Mark Wahlberg's (your cousin, from Boston) accent is wrong.  He exaggerates it on purpose in the movies. 

This post brought to you by someone who knows what it means to be a minority.   I am a conservative, prolife, gun owning, Republican, born again Christian, fundamental Baptist.  From Massachusetts.  It don't get much rarer than that!

Edited January 3 by H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619

[Texas Lizard]

I thought it was anyone north of the Mason-Dixon line....But I am in California and a looong time out of school....

 

Texas Lizard

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

I figure yankeeland is any state wear they wore blue.

[Pat Riot]

Do a search on it if you want to know. 
 

I did answer but deleted it. Have some respect for your fellow Americans. 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

3 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

 

perpetually perplexed meets confused.

And leaves me befuddled.

[Dapper Dave]

All I can tell you is when I went to Boot Camp at Great Mistakes north of Chicago, I saw steam rising from the manholes, and that was in 85 degree weather in September. I would have asked about it, but the really big guys in the round browns discouraged stupid questions quite thoroughly...never did find out.

[watab kid]

youve got the answer - we also get fog off lakes and marshes this time of year - warmer water meeting colder air - sometimes like last week the fog is so thick you cant see more than a few car lengths ahead of you , thats how it was for me last saturday on half my drive to our family christmas  gettogether , made slow going that half , made up for it on the second half and was on time , pays to allow a little extra time for unknowns , but thats me - my wife is always late 

[Ozark Huckleberry]

You've seen the same thing here in FL, just didn't have sidewalks and sewers to cornfuse you.

 

We also get steam coming off of ponds, criks, lakes, and rivers. Generally in the fall/early winter after a cold front has come through.

 

Warm water, cooler air, air temp and dew point close together ='steam (actually, just a small-scale fog).

 

 

 

[Rye Miles #13621]

8 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

I figure yankeeland is any state wear they wore blue.

Right on! Proud Yankee right here! Glad we won the war!  
 

BTW I’m not a Baseball Yankee fan! 😂

[Matthew Duncan]

Back in the day sanitary sewer and storm water was combined in the same collection system.  Poop is warmer and causes stream during cold weather.

[Sedalia Dave]

Back to the answer, many buildings in Manhattan are heated with steam. The steam generators were owned by Con-Edison and underground piping was used to get it from the plant to the buildings.

 

 

 

 

 

[Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001]

in the SOUTH 

 

Yankees come to visit . 

 

 DAM&@$  Yankees stay 

 

  🤣

[Irish Pat]

to people in the Old South anyone that invaded the CSA is a damn Yankee. to other countries that don’t like the USA we are all Yankees. During Desert Storm the New Orleans Washington Artillery and the New York Fighting 69th Irish Brigard were combined and fought together so we made up. but everyone north of Mason-Dixon is still Yankee to us but we tolerate them and they are OK

[Rye Miles #13621]

7 minutes ago, Irish Pat said:

to people in the Old South anyone that invaded the CSA is a damn Yankee. to other countries that don’t like the USA we are all Yankees. During Desert Storm the New Orleans Washington Artillery and the New York Fighting 69th Irish Brigard were combined and fought together so we made up. but everyone north of Mason-Dixon is still Yankee to us but we tolerate them and they are OK

Yea and we tolerate you too because you really are American! 🇺🇸Aren’t we all? 

Edited January 3 by Rye Miles #13621

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

9 minutes ago, Irish Pat said:

to people in the Old South anyone that invaded the CSA is a damn Yankee. to other countries that don’t like the USA we are all Yankees. During Desert Storm the New Orleans Washington Artillery and the New York Fighting 69th Irish Brigard were combined and fought together so we made up. but everyone north of Mason-Dixon is still Yankee to us but we tolerate them and they are OK

You do like the tourist dollars, don’t you?

[Alpo]

Dave's second video makes a lot of sense.

 

Because, while I have seen fog on the lake and on the creeks, it's just sitting there. The movies I'm talking about with New York City - it's coming out like it's being shot out of a cannon. Like you have a squirt gun that is shooting steam instead of water. It appears to be coming up under pressure. It's not drifting up. And fog doesn't drift up anyhow. Fog sits there.

 

The annoying thing about that video is about every 30 seconds it would lock up for two or three minutes before it would start playing again. I made it all the way to 3 minutes and 47 seconds before I gave up and discussed(IN DISGUST). Took me about 20 minutes to watch that 4 minutes of video.

Edited January 3 by Alpo

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

glad it was your 20 minutes and not mine

[Eyesa Horg]

1 hour ago, Sedalia Dave said:

Back to the answer, many buildings in Manhattan are heated with steam. The steam generators were owned by Con-Edison and underground piping was used to get it from the plant to the buildings.

 

 

 

 

 

There was one of those plants in Hartford.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

steam plants are all over the former Soviet Union.  One time I visited Simferopol in Crimea, I had an apartment where there were many cats in the area, it was summer. Went back in the winter, no cats. second look, sleeping on top of the asbestos wraps on the steam pipes.

[Texas Joker]

I thought referring to them as steam tunnels made it self evident.  Those cities have been there for hundreds of years tech may have changed but the infrastructure it was built on is still there mostly

[Michigan Slim]

I've been called a Yankee. I'm from New Mich. Sometimes called Mich again.