Bonds Clemens no HOF

[Rye Miles #13621]

Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens turned down for MLB Hall of Fame!

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/roger-clemens-barry-bonds-miss-out-latest-chance-enter-baseball-hall-fame

Thoughts?

 ( baseball fans only please?)

Edited December 8, 2025 by Rye Miles #13621

[Subdeacon Joe]

They should be in it.  

[Rye Miles #13621]

Yea I think so as well. From what I understand in court it was found they did nothing wrong during the time they were supposedly on steroids.  Legally they were found not guilty but as far as MLB goes it’s still in question! 
 

[Blackwater 53393]

It will be hard for either of them to get the kind of support they need for installment. The baseball writers portray a lily white, puritanical appearance when selecting and voting on HOF inductees, despite their own personal shortcomings.  
 

They pilloried Curt Schilling because of his political leanings and a projected persona of racism, but he was nowhere near as far from the mainstream as other HOFers such as Ty Cobb!

 

I take much of what the press holds as opinion in baseball the same as I take the rest of mainstream media’s observations! The Baseball Writers failed to ever award Nolan Ryan a Cy Young! Their opinion is all but irrelevant!!

 

The Baseball Hall of Fame is as political as anything and more so than most!!

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

they can be reconsidered in '31.

 What does it matter to them? ... appearance fees, memorabiilia sales, potential tv, radio jobs, ...

 

My opinion, Yeah leave them out.

[Sarge]

Bill Freehan and Mickey Lolich should be in before Bonds and Clemens.

[Chantry]

They took the drugs to improve their performance and probably to extend their career and made more money doing so than most of us will ever see in our lifetimes.  I find it difficult to be sympathetic to either of them.  They made their choices and now they can deal with the consequences of those choices.

[Rye Miles #13621]

Major League Baseball first placed steroids on its banned substances list in 1991, but did not test or enforce the rule at that time.

So on paper they were “banned,” but in practice nothing happened if a player used them.

 

Key milestones:

 

• 1991 – MLB adds steroids to its drug policy (no testing, no penalties).
• 2003 – MLB begins anonymous survey testing to see how widespread steroid use is.
• 2004 – Real testing and penalties for the first time (suspensions introduced).
• 2005 – Penalties strengthened (10-game suspension for first offense, later increased).

 

 

So: Steroids were officially banned in 1991, but effectively enforced starting in 2004.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

Sammy Sosa waspassed over a few years ago.  Arod is being skipped now.

[Yul Lose]

2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Major League Baseball first placed steroids on its banned substances list in 1991, but did not test or enforce the rule at that time.

So on paper they were “banned,” but in practice nothing happened if a player used them.

 

Key milestones:

 

• 1991 – MLB adds steroids to its drug policy (no testing, no penalties).
• 2003 – MLB begins anonymous survey testing to see how widespread steroid use is.
• 2004 – Real testing and penalties for the first time (suspensions introduced).
• 2005 – Penalties strengthened (10-game suspension for first offense, later increased).

 

 

So: Steroids were officially banned in 1991, but effectively enforced starting in 2004.

They used BANNED performance enhancing steroids.

[Rye Miles #13621]

1 hour ago, Yul Lose said:

They used BANNED performance enhancing steroids.

They both had their last season in 2007, 3 years after they started fining players for steroids. How come MLB didn’t kick them out in 2004? They were making money on those two players! MLB is run by hypocrites!