Cimarron (Uberti) 1876 Returned?

[Cotton Eye Joe]

Noticed on Buds today that they were offering an 1876 clone in 45-60, which I haven't seen in quite some time. I had one previously but sold it to fund more antique Marlin pursuits. I missed that massive rifle every time I see my old 45-60 (trimmed 45-70) brass and dies. So here I am, buying one in 2025 for a good deal more than the one I bought in 2018. Serves me right!

 

I hope they come out with all the other models they used to have. 45-75, 40-60, and 50-95. They had a Tom Horn model (awesome), a Canadian Mountie musketized carbine thing, a Texas Ranger Presidio short rifle. I think the owners were few and far between, though. And with an $1800+ price tag now, that won't change. 

 

Not totally unrelated, but I live about 20 minutes from the Mescal Movie Set where much of Tom Horn was filmed. They do tours, and I got this photo. Film buffs might recognize the horse stall Steeve McQueen was tossed into.

[Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L]

Shows "out of stock" now.

[Doc Eagle]

Of all the rifles I own my 1876 45-60 Musket is probably my favorite.  I saw the first one on the Movie Crossfire Trail and just HAD TO have it.  

This is the engraving on the movie gun.  Stands for Charles Rodney

 

Here's mine.

 I recently got the side plate engraved in the style they show in the movie.

And while I was at it I had it done to one of my favorite custom knives.

I'm having the same engraving done on one of my 1873s and my Yellowboy '66 s I have a matching set.

 

I'm REALLY glad to hear they are bringing these guns back.  Now I need a Tom Horn model.

Edited December 6, 2025 by Doc Eagle

[Nickle]

I recently bought a used but like new Taylor 1876 in 45/60 with 28 inch heavy octagon barrel. 

Before I even shot it I did a trigger job on it. By reversing the hammer stirrup, putting leather under lever safety spring and putting more of a colt angle on sear I was able to get trigger down to a 2 pound break.

I have to say that I really like the way a 76 is made.

Mine must weigh 10 pounds so definitely a target gun. I'm thinking I'm going to put a vernier sight on it down the road and see what it can do.

A musket version of this rifle  I'm thinking would have been the best thing going years ago and would still be my choice today for a hunting or general purpose rifle if I was a young guy and still packing a rifle on my horse for elk and moose.

I've owned and hunted with alot of original 1886 winchesters.  I'm very familiar with all browning designs and I can definitely work at them.  But the 1876 is like the 73. If the toggle links were cars or motorcycles they would be the race car or motocross types.  They are designed to be fast and to be quickly worked at. The brownings look more modern and look like a better design but I'm definitely more of a toggle link fan.

[Cotton Eye Joe]

2 hours ago, Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L said:

Shows "out of stock" now.

It shows in stock just now. I posted about a Cimarron SxS on buds that did the same thing a week or so ago. Went out of stock quick and then back in stock again. 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

Gunbroker.com 

 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1135463189

 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1137092280

Edited December 7, 2025 by Rooster Ron Wayne
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[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

My info from Cimarron is several weeks old, but at that time they had no '76's in stock but had most models on backorder, except no 45-75's on order and of course they haven't had the 40-60 in forever.

[largo casey #19191]

I have a Cimarron in 45/60.I built an original in 40/60.

                                                                                                Largo

[Barry Sloe]

I've got one of the Mountie versions in 45-75. Nice gun, kicks like a mule. 

Once I get the reloading room set-up again I'll have to take out to the range (only put about 10 rounds thru it after I bought it).

 

BS

[Cotton Eye Joe]

4 hours ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:

My info from Cimarron is several weeks old, but at that time they had no '76's in stock but had most models on backorder, except no 45-75's on order and of course they haven't had the 40-60 in forever.

I'm sure as soon as mine arrives, the Tom Horn model will pop up in stock, which is what I really wanted haha. But the Centennial is the next best option for me. 

 

Think they ever make more Burgess clones?

Edited December 7, 2025 by Cotton Eye Joe

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

On the Burgess, I rather doubt it.  They weren't big sellers when they were made.  But who knows?

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

I doubt they will ever make the Burgess again .

You would be much better served with a 66 or 73 anyway. 

Rooster 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

11 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

I doubt they will ever make the Burgess again .

You would be much better served with a 66 or 73 anyway. 

Rooster 

In a CAS match, I agree...but then who would ever buy a Spencer rifle? The historical factor can't be dismissed! Not that my coming 1876 will ever see a match, unless I attend one of the rare long-range matches.

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

It's worth pointing out that the original .45-60 and the modern 45-60 are two different cartridges.   I learned this the hard way!  I had obtained an Uberti 76 in .45-60, that came with RCBS reloading dies, and some Jamison .45-60 brass.  The Jamison brass would NOT chamber in the Uberti.  It would only go in about 90% of the way, and no further.   Took some .45-70 brass and trimmed it to the same length as the .45-60, and it fits like a glove.   Also, the original .45-60 was ever so slightly bottlenecked, and the RCBS dies DO add that feature to the cut brass .45-70.  But you really don't wanna do that.  The chambers on the modern .45-60 are not bottlenecked.  In other words, modern .45-60 is literally just a shortened .45-70, where the original cartridge is not.  For reloading, I wind up using my Lee .45-70 dies to resize and expand the case mouth, and the RCBS .45-60 die for seating/crimping.  

Kinda makes me wanna find an original Winchester so's  I can play with the old round too...

[Cotton Eye Joe]

1 hour ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

It's worth pointing out that the original .45-60 and the modern 45-60 are two different cartridges.   I learned this the hard way!  I had obtained an Uberti 76 in .45-60, that came with RCBS reloading dies, and some Jamison .45-60 brass.  The Jamison brass would NOT chamber in the Uberti.  It would only go in about 90% of the way, and no further.   Took some .45-70 brass and trimmed it to the same length as the .45-60, and it fits like a glove.   Also, the original .45-60 was ever so slightly bottlenecked, and the RCBS dies DO add that feature to the cut brass .45-70.  But you really don't wanna do that.  The chambers on the modern .45-60 are not bottlenecked.  In other words, modern .45-60 is literally just a shortened .45-70, where the original cartridge is not.  For reloading, I wind up using my Lee .45-70 dies to resize and expand the case mouth, and the RCBS .45-60 die for seating/crimping.  

Kinda makes me wanna find an original Winchester so's  I can play with the old round too...

That was not my experience with the Uberti 1876 that I had in 2017-2021 (sold it). I still have my trimmed 45-70 starline brass that I used to use, and the fired brass have bottlenecks in them. I used RCBS dies as normal.

 

The main issue I ran into was the inability to use the short Hornady brass due to rim thickness. The lever would not close. Remington brass was hit or miss on if I could close on it. Starline and Federal brass would work, though. 

[Nickle]

13 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

It's worth pointing out that the original .45-60 and the modern 45-60 are two different cartridges.   I learned this the hard way!  I had obtained an Uberti 76 in .45-60, that came with RCBS reloading dies, and some Jamison .45-60 brass.  The Jamison brass would NOT chamber in the Uberti.  It would only go in about 90% of the way, and no further.   Took some .45-70 brass and trimmed it to the same length as the .45-60, and it fits like a glove.   Also, the original .45-60 was ever so slightly bottlenecked, and the RCBS dies DO add that feature to the cut brass .45-70.  But you really don't wanna do that.  The chambers on the modern .45-60 are not bottlenecked.  In other words, modern .45-60 is literally just a shortened .45-70, where the original cartridge is not.  For reloading, I wind up using my Lee .45-70 dies to resize and expand the case mouth, and the RCBS .45-60 die for seating/crimping.  

Kinda makes me wanna find an original Winchester so's  I can play with the old round too...

My Taylor 1876 came with 50 rounds of assorted 45/70 brass that was trimmed to length. 
The headspace is really tight on my gun. Out of the 50 rounds only about 8 would chamber easily. 
The rest of the brass i put in my cordless drill which I used as a lathe and I carefully filled the inside of the rims of the rest of the brass until they would chamber. 
I would just keep filling and then keep checking the fit in the rifle. 
 

Edited December 10, 2025 by Nickle

[Griff]

I would really love one in .40-65.  I don't think Cimmaron ever offered them in that chambering... but I seem to recall that Chapparal did.  But QC was so poor on those, I wouldn't gamble.

[Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L]

I bought my Uberti '76 when they first became available.  I use RCBS dies to load both Jamison 45-60 brass and cut down 45-70 brass, either Winchester or Remington.  All work just fine. It's only seen blackpowder. 

[watab kid]

OK , i like the look of that one - thinking i need one to round out or fall hole in collection , 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

16 hours ago, Griff said:

I would really love one in .40-65.  I don't think Cimmaron ever offered them in that chambering... but I seem to recall that Chapparal did.  But QC was so poor on those, I wouldn't gamble.

I think you're remembering the 40-60 Winchester. The 40-65 was never an 1876 chambering, to my knowledge. 

 

Gets confusing because Marlin had a cartridge called the 40-60 Marlin that was interchangeable with the 40-65 Winchester. The 40-60 Winchester is not interchangeable with the 40-60 Marlin. It's a lot lol

 

40-60W

40-60M

40-65W

45-60W

😵‍💫

[Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L]

Mike Venturino said, in his book Lever Actions of the Old West , that the 40-60 Winchester had to hold the record for the puniest cartridge put into the stoutest rifle. He said the cartridge in a 10-pound rifle equaled the ballistics of a .41 magnum in a three-pound revolver!

[Timothy]

It seems like a rational offering to me 50 45 40 in a new rifle.

[Jackalope]

On 12/9/2025 at 8:37 AM, Cotton Eye Joe said:

The main issue I ran into was the inability to use the short Hornady brass due to rim thickness. The lever would not close. Remington brass was hit or miss on if I could close on it. Starline and Federal brass would work, though.

 

On 12/9/2025 at 9:11 PM, Nickle said:

The headspace is really tight on my gun.

 

My Taylor's & Co. 1876 (45-60) had very tight headspace.  I could not find any brass that would allow the bolt to close.  I eventually took it to a professional gunsmith and had him remove a few thousandths of an inch from the bolt face.  After he modified the bolt, the gun worked with any brass I tried in it.  This was in 2007.

 

Jackalope

[Griff]

17 hours ago, Cotton Eye Joe said:

I think you're remembering the 40-60 Winchester. The 40-65 was never an 1876 chambering, to my knowledge. 

Since when do facts prevail over WANTS?  

[Grass Range]

On 12/6/2025 at 11:06 AM, Doc Eagle said:

Of all the rifles I own my 1876 45-60 Musket is probably my favorite.  I saw the first one on the Movie Crossfire Trail and just HAD TO have it.  

This is the engraving on the movie gun.  Stands for Charles Rodney

 

Here's mine.

 I recently got the side plate engraved in the style they show in the movie.

And while I was at it I had it done to one of my favorite custom knives.

I'm having the same engraving done on one of my 1873s and my Yellowboy '66 s I have a matching set.

 

I'm REALLY glad to hear they are bringing these guns back.  Now I need a Tom Horn model.

I would like to have a knife like this but with a

real sheath

[Griff]

8 hours ago, Grass Range said:

I would like to have a knife like this but with a

real sheath

Okay... I gotta ask... what makes that sheath unreal?

[Cotton Eye Joe]

I got some Steinel 45-60 ammo delivered today. I was told by a buddy that Quality Cartridge makes the correctly stamped brass (the real reason I bought it). Big fan of Quality Cartridge! I've also bought their 25-36 Marlin, 32-40 Ballard, and 38-56Win brass. 

 

Still waiting for my e-check to clear at Buds....sigh. no rifle to shoot this ammo in just yet.

 

 

[Griff]

I too like the Quality Cartridge .32-40, in all respects except price.  

[Nickle]

On 12/10/2025 at 4:08 PM, Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L said:

Mike Venturino said, in his book Lever Actions of the Old West , that the 40-60 Winchester had to hold the record for the puniest cartridge put into the stoutest rifle. He said the cartridge in a 10-pound rifle equaled the ballistics of a .41 magnum in a three-pound revolver!

I used to load my old 444marlin up with 200g cast bullets and ffg.  Was probably really close to a 40-60 performance wise. Was fun to shoot.  Biggest thing I shot with it was Jack rabbits. 

[Doc Eagle]

On 12/11/2025 at 8:54 AM, Grass Range said:

I would like to have a knife like this but with a

real sheath

That’s the sheath that the maker made for the knife and it works just fine through years of field carry on foot and horseback so I don’t know what the definition of “real” sheath means

[Grass Range]

On 12/11/2025 at 5:32 PM, Griff said:

Okay... I gotta ask... what makes that sheath unreal?

The belt hanger

[Doc Eagle]

On 12/14/2025 at 1:13 PM, Grass Range said:

The belt hanger

Ok, still have no idea what you think is wrong with it.  Here it is hanging off my belt, doing everything it’s supposed to do while I’m having a grand ol’ time in the mountains in Medicine Bow in WY.  I’ve owned it for years and it has never failed me.  But I guess to each their own.  

 

 

And the knife is custom made, one of a kind.  So you can have someone make you one for you and then have any sheath you want made for it.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2025 by Doc Eagle

[Cotton Eye Joe]

Sad to report that my first range trip with my new 1876 was not great!

 

I owned a Cimarron 1876 a few years back, and I still had a decent bit of ammo from that. Sadly, my ammo was full of duds. Some primers fired on their 10th re-cocking of the hammer! Finally squibbed one and had to call it. 

 

Before I squibbed, my very expensive Steinel ammo was.....bad. $85 per box of 20. Had at least one round get the slug pushed back into the case. Other ones were very tough to chamber (they don't size the 45-60, appears straightwall'd). Velocity was wildly inconsistent, like 1200fps to 1450fps. At least it didn't squib!

 

Now I've got the gun disassembled, but I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong on reassembly. The lever keeps getting jammed open when I work the action. I can see why, the brass lifter is sagging. Gets in the way of the bolt closing, basically locking it open until I push upwards on bottom of the lifter. 

 

And the internals are the roughest Uberti internals I've ever experienced. I'd say I've had a lot. Very very disappointed thus far.

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

The carrier (lifter) spring either needs to be tightened (the screw on bottom on the loading gate side of rifle, or if tight then the tip of it probably has fallen off the cam of the lifter arm.

[Cotton Eye Joe]

2 hours ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:

The carrier (lifter) spring either needs to be tightened (the screw on bottom on the loading gate side of rifle, or if tight then the tip of it probably has fallen off the cam of the lifter arm.

Funny enough, removing the right lever spring is the only thing I've found that restores functionality. Definitely wasn't loose, and hadn't fallen off the lifter arm.