England is going to hell rapidly

[Alpo]

Brit came to America on vacation. Shot a gun. Was photographed shooting the gun. Went back home and posted the photograph on social media.

 

Was arrested because other people on social media felt threatened because this man posted a picture of him shooting a gun.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/it-consultant-arrested-after-posing-with-gun-on-linkedin/ar-AA1Rm5iC?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=692a188598fc4af480bd8921edc5344a&ei=26

[Cypress Sun]

 

Ridiculous

[Abilene Slim SASS 81783]

The thought police are very active there. 

[John Kloehr]

Another program there is still voluntary, I think...

 

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

1984 was written as having taken place in Britain.

[Badlands Bob #61228]

If somebody called the police because they felt threatened by me holding a gun and had me locked up, I might be tempted to make their nightmares come true.

[Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062]

so, the kid in Florida who was suspended from school because of a picture of him holding an AR15, with his finger NOT on the trigger doesn't count ?

or the kindergartener who bit his poptart and then pointed it at another child ........ ?????

[Rye Miles #13621]

2 minutes ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said:

so, the kid in Florida who was suspended from school because of a picture of him holding an AR15, with his finger NOT on the trigger doesn't count ?

or the kindergartener who bit his poptart and then pointed it at another child ........ ?????

Getting suspended from school is a lot different than getting arrested! 

[John Kloehr]

Getting arrested is also worse than having your truck illegally searched. 18 year old carrier who did not bring his gun to high school and did not give permission to search his truck. He also did not make any threats. They did not find a gun when they searched his truck anyway. He is suing the school.

 

I hope this English citizen proceeds with and wins his suit.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

30 minutes ago, John Kloehr said:

I hope this English citizen proceeds with and wins his suit.

England doesn't have citizens, it has subjects.

[Sedalia Dave]

3 hours ago, John Kloehr said:

 

I hope this English citizen proceeds with and wins his suit.

 

Being as free speech does not exist in the UK suing will not get him anywhere.

 

Speech is not an absolute right in the UK. Rather it is a qualified right; which means the government can restrict it as they see fit. The citizens of the UK have zero recourse to government censorship. 

 

Nick Robinson: How the simmering row over freedom of speech in the UK reached boiling point

 

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Earlier this month, in a survey by YouGov, 5,035 British adults were asked what was most important when it came to online behaviour: 28% said it was that people were able to express themselves freely but 61% prioritised keeping them safe from threats and abuse

 

Seems that the average citizen in the UK is more than happy to trade their freedom for the illusion of safety. ☹️  ☹️  ☹️  ☹️ 

[Dapper Dave]

9 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

1984 was written as having taken place in Britain.

Welcome to Airstrip One. 

[Tell Sackett SASS 18436]

2 hours ago, Dapper Dave said:

Welcome to Airstrip One. 

BUT: it wasn’t supposed to be an instruction manual!!!

[watab kid]

its time to tell people on social media they are going to see things they dont like - get over it , or , dont look , no one told them to look , no one forced them to look , they elected to do that as a free person , live with what you chose to look at or dont look , 

 

this is all BS and a way for government to take over your life - you have choices to make dont give up that right to protect your stupidity 

[Buckshot Bear]

Broken shoulder in 3.....2....1....

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

24 minutes ago, watab kid said:

its time to tell people on social media they are going to see things they dont like - get over it , or , dont look , no one told them to look , no one forced them to look , they elected to do that as a free person , live with what you chose to look at or dont look , 

I would say that it's time to tell people to stop posting their lives on social media. Nobody really gives a crap, and look what it got THIS guy. 

The Saloon here is literally the closest to social media I participate in.

[watab kid]

22 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

I would say that it's time to tell people to stop posting their lives on social media. Nobody really gives a crap, and look what it got THIS guy. 

The Saloon here is literally the closest to social media I participate in.

im with you here , ive not had any luck in my family getting people off it , 

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and yes this is the closest i come as well - i have three sites i visit , i spend most time here , least on my 22cal site and the enfield i=s real close to this because ive been on it a lot longer than any other and have good friends there , 

 

im not on facebook or twitter or whatever the one of  the current day to be on is - i wont be , i dont give a darn what they say there , i really could care less what the 'influencers' say 

 

but i do enjoy our discussions here 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

More proof You can't fix stupid !

[Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme]

7 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

I would say that it's time to tell people to stop posting their lives on social media. Nobody really gives a crap, and look what it got THIS guy. 

The Saloon here is literally the closest to social media I participate in.

I'm fully with you on this one. I don't do social media  - no FaceSpace, TwitX, TikBook, InstaTok,.......

[Sedalia Dave]

9 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

I would say that it's time to tell people to stop posting their lives on social media. Nobody really gives a crap, and look what it got THIS guy. 

The Saloon here is literally the closest to social media I participate in.

In the UK if you posted a picture of yourself shooting at a SASS match on a public platform like the SASS wire, you’d get arrested the same as if you posted it on FB. 

[watab kid]

i need to post a photo i guess ., they can pi$$ UP A ROPE , 

[Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L]

14 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

In the UK if you posted a picture of yourself shooting at a SASS match on a public platform like the SASS wire, you’d get arrested the same as if you posted it on FB. 

But someone would have to file a complaint about it. 

[watab kid]

well to the OP , if every brit or other foreigner that shot at our range in the last decade were to get arreested in their country for a social media posted ppicture their jails would be full , we get dozens over a years time , most never shot a gun before but they have fun , had two isrealis a few weeks back , have a regular every year from isle of man , and cant even begin to describe all those from south of our boarder , long as you have ID we let you in , 

[Ozark Huckleberry]

Watched an interview with the guy who was arrested -- there's a bit more to the story.

 

He's an IT developer, has a client who owes him a significant sum. He sent a message to the client saying that if the client didn't pay up, he would take 'strong measures'. Somehow or another, it seems the client connected the picture of the man holding a gun (and the guy never mentioned online that he was in Florida when he was holding the gun) with the warning about paying up, and notified the police.

 

Do I think the UK's laws making online speech a crime? Mostly, yes. But there's a bit more to the story than initially explained.

[Rye Miles #13621]

1 hour ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

Watched an interview with the guy who was arrested -- there's a bit more to the story.

 

He's an IT developer, has a client who owes him a significant sum. He sent a message to the client saying that if the client didn't pay up, he would take 'strong measures'. Somehow or another, it seems the client connected the picture of the man holding a gun (and the guy never mentioned online that he was in Florida when he was holding the gun) with the warning about paying up, and notified the police.

 

Do I think the UK's laws making online speech a crime? Mostly, yes. But there's a bit more to the story than initially explained.

Yep saw that interview as well. I see why they questioned him. 

[Still hand Bill]

3 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

Watched an interview with the guy who was arrested -- there's a bit more to the story.

 

He's an IT developer, has a client who owes him a significant sum. He sent a message to the client saying that if the client didn't pay up, he would take 'strong measures'. Somehow or another, it seems the client connected the picture of the man holding a gun (and the guy never mentioned online that he was in Florida when he was holding the gun) with the warning about paying up, and notified the police.

 

Do I think the UK's laws making online speech a crime? Mostly, yes. But there's a bit more to the story than initially explained.

Even so, after seeing the photo it was obviously taken on a sporting clays course.  Which was invented in England.  

[Rye Miles #13621]

2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Yep saw that interview as well. I see why they questioned him. 

Just to be clear, I don’t agree with them arresting him. Questioning him  is one thing, but actually arresting him is too much!

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

Then there's this: Death of Trial by Jury: UK Govt Insists It Must Destroy The Village to Save The Village. The UK government’s justice minister David Lammy launched into a full-throated defence of his plans to deprive suspects of a chance to be judged by 12 of their peers, insisting he has a superior understanding of Magna Carta and that the “emergency” justifies doing away with ancient rights.

Full story here: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/12/02/death-of-trial-by-jury-uk-thinks-it-must-destroy-village-to-save-village/

[Cypress Sun]

5 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

Watched an interview with the guy who was arrested -- there's a bit more to the story.

 

He's an IT developer, has a client who owes him a significant sum. He sent a message to the client saying that if the client didn't pay up, he would take 'strong measures'. Somehow or another, it seems the client connected the picture of the man holding a gun (and the guy never mentioned online that he was in Florida when he was holding the gun) with the warning about paying up, and notified the police.

 

Do I think the UK's laws making online speech a crime? Mostly, yes. But there's a bit more to the story than initially explained.

 

3 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Yep saw that interview as well. I see why they questioned him. 

 

And now...the rest of the story - Paul Harvey

[Blackwater 53393]

We revolted against British rule about 250 years ago!  If you ever wondered why…

[Eyesa Horg]

We just don't seem to learn from history.

[Cyrus Cassidy #45437]

They gave up their guns in 1997. Now they're being arrested for social media posts.

[Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001]

It ain't just England , what has gone nuts 

 

  

[John Kloehr]

10 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

Then there's this: Death of Trial by Jury: UK Govt Insists It Must Destroy The Village to Save The Village. The UK government’s justice minister David Lammy launched into a full-throated defence of his plans to deprive suspects of a chance to be judged by 12 of their peers, insisting he has a superior understanding of Magna Carta and that the “emergency” justifies doing away with ancient rights.

Full story here: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/12/02/death-of-trial-by-jury-uk-thinks-it-must-destroy-village-to-save-village/

Yes, I posted a thread on this. There is no right to a jury trial according to Lammy. And for those cases which warrant a jury trial, there is a balancing test "for the public good." Which suggests the balancing test may just as easily weigh against a jury trial "for the public good."

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

And it continues:

Labour-Led Britain Suspends Elections

 

Full story here: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/12/05/frankly-a-very-authoritarian-government-left-led-uk-suspends-election/