Controversy

[Subdeacon Joe]

If it's stuffed into the cavity and cooked in the bird, it's stuffing.

If it's cooked outside the bird as a side dressing, then it's dressing.

 

Quod scripsi, scripsi .

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

yep.  for some it's whatever mother said it was and that's that.

[J-BAR #18287]

Then there's Stove Top Stuffing for those of us who like the taste without the turkey!!  😀
 

 

[Chantry]

I don't face such a controversy, because I don't eat the holiday meals involved.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

If you have turkey loaf it doesn't matter.

[sassnetguy50]

Is turducken technically stuffing?

[Alpo]

I was reading a recipe for that one time.

 

The turkey is stuffed with a duck, and the duck is stuffed with a chicken. But the chicken is also stuffed - at least it was in this recipe hyphen with a ground pork based stuffing. No bread in this.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

4 hours ago, Alpo said:

I was reading a recipe for that one time.

 

The turkey is stuffed with a duck, and the duck is stuffed with a chicken. But the chicken is also stuffed - at least it was in this recipe hyphen with a ground pork based stuffing. No bread in this.

it's turducken

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

6 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

If it's stuffed into the cavity and cooked in the bird, it's stuffing.

If it's cooked outside the bird as a side dressing, then it's dressing.

 

Quod scripsi, scripsi .

 

3 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

it's turducken

I ain't eatin' nuthin with "turd" in its name.

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

This is another one of those WGAS things.  In my family "dressing" and "stuffing" were interchangeable.

 

Seeing as I don't knowingly eat either one I have no further comment.

[Rip Snorter]

In or out of the bird, good sausage is required to make good stuffing / dressing.  Two other additions that are a matter of taste are some cooked wild rice, and minced sauteed red bell pepper.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

7 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

 

I ain't eatin' nuthin with "turd" in its name.

More for me.

[Blackwater 53393]

The answer is simple!!

 

IT’S FOOD!! 👍

[Stump Water]

37 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said:

In or out of the bird, good sausage is required to make good stuffing / dressing. 

 

Oysters.

 

Stuffing... dressing... don't care what you call it.  Just give me another spoonful.

 

[Rip Snorter]

2 minutes ago, Stump Water said:

 

Oysters.

 

Stuffing... dressing... don't care what you call it.  Just give me another spoonful.

 

Would remind me of a gal long ago who had to have anchovies on Pizza - couldn't do it!

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

46 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

 

I ain't eatin' nuthin with "turd" in its name.

It's not turd uck in.

It's tur duck in.

[Blackwater 53393]

41 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

It's not turd uck in.

It's tur duck in.

Actually, it’s Tur-duck-en!!

[Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103]

Me dear Pappy favors oyster dressing.
He also has a fondness for Mince Meat Pie and I can't find any here in these blighted Yankee flat lands!
Reckon I will have to prevail upon my beautiful bride to concoct such an item!

 

[Subdeacon Joe]

I've never developed a taste for any meat in stuffing or dressing.  Good broth to moisten dressing, yes.

Lots of onions, lots of celery, cornbread and sourdough croutons for the bulk of it. A good amount of sage.

[J-BAR #18287]

Doc Severinsen preferred oyster dressing, which lead to a divorce!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2025 by J-BAR #18287

[Cactus Jack Calder]

I posted this once before. However, it might bare repeating.

Years ago I had a boss who had worked in the Middle East for several years.
He loved to tell us youngsters about a delicacy he enjoyed over there.

 

Roast Stuffed Camel

Ingredients:

6 dozen Eggs, hard boiled and peeled.

6 Chickens, cleaned and plucked.

2 Sheep, cleaned and skinned.

1 Camel, large cleaned and shaved (do not remove the skin).

60 palm fronds.

 

Preparation:

Stuff 1 dozen Eggs into each Chicken and sew shut.

Stuff 3 Chickens into each Sheep and sew shut.

Stuff the Sheep into the Camel and sew shut.

 

Cooking:

Dig a 8’X8’X8’ pit and build a large fire in the pit. Once the fire is burned low cover with 2’ of dirt and a layer of Palm Fronds. Lower the Camel into the pit and cover with another layer of Palm Fronds. Then fill up with remaining dirt. Let cook for 8 hours, then remove from pit. Open Camel and remove Sheep. Throw away the Camel. Open Sheep and remove Chickens. Throw away the Sheep. Open Chickens and remove Eggs. Throw away the Eggs. Eat the Chickens.

 

CJ

 

[watab kid]

i see your point - i agree , i think whats happened over the years is that family get-to-gethers have gotten so large that the traditional stuffing has begun to be a main dish and the confines of the bird are insufficient for the required volume , yet we dont want to give up the traditional thoughts and terms , not disagreeing with you really ....

 

kinda feeling like the terms are getting expanded , after all where i came from it was casserole / where i am its hot dish , looks the same , made the same , tastes the same 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

17 hours ago, Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 said:

Me dear Pappy favors oyster dressing.
He also has a fondness for Mince Meat Pie and I can't find any here in these blighted Yankee flat lands!
Reckon I will have to prevail upon my beautiful bride to concoct such an item!

 

It's been 40 or more years since I had mince meat pie.  I'll have to look into that.  My dad loved it but I don't have his recipe.

 

Thanks for bringing it to mind.

[Alpo]

16 hours ago, Cactus Jack Calder said:

I posted this once before. However, it might bare repeating

Just curious if that's a typo or not.

 

You dig the 8x8x8-foot deep pit and you build a fire. When the fire burns down you cover it with a 2 foot layer of dirt?? You say 2', but I was wondering if that was supposed to say 2" - 2 inches. 2 inches seems a little thin but two feet seems awful thick.

[Cactus Jack Calder]

3 hours ago, Alpo said:

Just curious if that's a typo or not.

 

You dig the 8x8x8-foot deep pit and you build a fire. When the fire burns down you cover it with a 2 foot layer of dirt?? You say 2', but I was wondering if that was supposed to say 2" - 2 inches. 2 inches seems a little thin but two feet seems awful thick.

Well it is in fact a joke, so I imagine 2’ or 2” doesn’t make that much difference. However, cooking for 8 hours does give the trapped heat a good chance to rise to the occasion, so to speak. My boss was a bit of a card.

 

He was a Corrosion Engineer by training and claimed that he had worked down by you for a few years. He worked for what ever organization operated the water pipeline that fed freshwater down the Keys to Key West. Their biggest problem was people along the Keys tapping into the pipeline.
 

The story was:

1. Aquire a wooden plug with a pipe drilled through it. 

2. Thread/solder a valve on the outboard end of the pipe.

3. Leave the valve open.

4. Bore a hole in the pipeline and drive the plug in.

5 Leave the valve open until the wood swells and seals around the plug. 
6. Then close the valve and connect to your house/business etc.

7. Walla, you have free water service. At least until you are caught.

And that, Alpo, satisfies your curiosity on one subject. Freeing you to pursue other random inquiries. 
Please know that your varied interests provided great entertainment for the rest of us.

CJ

[Alpo]

1 hour ago, Cactus Jack Calder said:

Well it is in fact a joke, so I imagine 2’ or 2” doesn’t make that much difference.

I was aware it was a joke, but I prefer my jokes to make sense.

 

There is a joke that's been going around for a few years.

 

We have a landowner - I have seen this with both rancher and farmer. Either one will work.

 

A federal agent comes to the door and tells the landowner that he is searching for something. It does not matter what type of federal agent it is, as long as what he is searching for fits. He could be ATF looking for a moonshine still. He can be DEA looking for a pot field. He could be immigration looking for wet. As long as what he's looking for works with his agency, this is fine.

 

Landowner tells him to knock himself out but to stay out of that pasture over there. The FED gets all upset and waves something in the landowner's face. I seen this told where it's a badge, where is it ID card, and where it's a search warrant. Any of the three works.

 

"See this! This lets me look anywhere I want to!!"

 

Landowner goes back in the house, and in a little while hears screaming. Looks out the window and the FED is in the pasture he was told to stay out of, running for his life being chased by an angry bull.

 

Punchline - the landowner yells show him your badge/ID card/warrant.

 

That all makes sense, and if you tell it right it's funny.

 

So I saw it posted one day and the Fed was secret service and he was investigating water rights.

 

Three people responded saying that was such a funny funny joke. Then I responded wanting to know what the secret service had to do with water rights. Four people responded almost immediately, all saying IT'S A JOOOOKE!!!

 

Yeah, but it doesn't make sense. If the secret service guy had been looking for a counterfeiting ring then it will have worked. But water rights? The joke didn't make sense. And jokes should make sense.

[watab kid]

9 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

It's been 40 or more years since I had mince meat pie.  I'll have to look into that.  My dad loved it but I don't have his recipe.

 

Thanks for bringing it to mind.

ive been near 60 years , my father loved it and my grandmother made it for thanksgiving , rest her soul not had it since 

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

On 11/14/2025 at 11:28 AM, Subdeacon Joe said:

If it's stuffed into the cavity and cooked in the bird, it's stuffing.

If it's cooked outside the bird as a side dressing, then it's dressing.

 

Quod scripsi, scripsi .

In Beat Bobby Flay, Michael Voltaggio chose the challenge to be stuffing.  There were no birds.

[Pat Riot]

I prefer Turchickuck

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

how about ostrich stuffed with turducken.

 

Yes I've had ostrich.

[Pat Riot]

7 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

how about ostrich stuffed with turducken.

 

Yes I've had ostrich.

I had a ground ostrich burger at a restaurant in California probably 25 years ago. It was delicious. 
I also had some ostrich jerky. It was just okay. 
 

How about Emu. 
 

Emuturchickuck

Edited November 18, 2025 by Pat Riot

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

1 minute ago, Pat Riot said:

I had a ground ostrich burger at a restaurant in California probably 25 years ago. It was delicious. 
I also had some ostrich jerky. It was just okay. 
 

How about Emu. 
 

Emuturchickuck

If it’s Limu Emu ))))

 

dunno about Rhea though, it just doesn’t sound right….

[watab kid]

in revisiting this i realized i had not mentioned my great fondness for jonhny [and doc] that was the era i watched late night TV - it weny to heck after that - nonoe has ever measured up yet , he was always entertaining and i never felt he was political in a way to offend - just made some clean fun , and his guests were always treated respectfully or poked fun at good naturedly , i miss that id like to see him again now but i fear thats long gone  

[Subdeacon Joe]

6 hours ago, watab kid said:

in revisiting this i realized i had not mentioned my great fondness for jonhny [and doc] that was the era i watched late night TV - it weny to heck after that - nonoe has ever measured up yet , he was always entertaining and i never felt he was political in a way to offend - just made some clean fun , and his guests were always treated respectfully or poked fun at good naturedly , i miss that id like to see him again now but i fear thats long gone  

 

I agree. I rarely watched late night television.  But clips I've seen support what you said. 

 

But, other than a tangential glance off the "Controversy" title,  I'm at sixes and sevens making any connection to stuffing v. dressing dispute. 

[Stump Water]

Baked chicken breasts last night.  Had about half a pone of cornbread leftover so Camille made druffing.  😍