On the subject of pedantic

[Black Angus McPherson]

I've found some of the subjects of late highly entertaining, not particularly informative, but entertaining.  Along those lines I've started to ponder:  And bear with me, this is going to be rambling and, probably long.  So, if you're not in the mood for that bail out now.

 

If someone talks about a ".45 Automatic" do you assume they are talking about something like a Colt 1911 pistol - a semi-automatic, or an M-3 submachine gun?  And since someone has argued that a "gun" must be a smooth bore should the M-3 be a shotgun?  If someone says a gun is "fully automatic" I think we can all agree what that means, but are they wrong?  Doesn't "Automatic" mean it's a "Fully Automatic Machine gun"?  And there's that word again "Machine" gun.  I think an argument could be mad that all firearms are "machines".  Why aren't they all "Machine guns"?  And "SUBmachine gun"?  What about "Machine Rifles"?  That might be more accurate. So let's stop with the machine gun thing entirely.  The Germans might have been right all along with "Machine Gewehr" (probably spelled that wrong)  I think "Gewehr" means "Rifle".

 

"Pistol" only refers to semi-automatic handguns.  What if it has a switch to make it fire "Fully automatic"?  Is it still a pistol.  What about antique flintlock or percussion dueling pistols?  They are no longer pistols?  What are they?  Dueling handguns?  But I thought a "gun" was a smoothbore and some of them have rifling.  "Handrifle"?

 

REVOLVERS ARE NOT PISTOLS!  Well, they might have a point there.  Not all revolvers are pistols.  Some are rifles or shotguns or even grenade launchers.  But, I believe that 99% of current revolvers fall into the classification of "pistol".

 

Oh, crud, dinner is ready and I'm getting the stink eye.  Gotta go now.  You lucky beggers, I might have gone on for another half hour.

 

Anyway, I hope you find my ponders amusing.  If not, well, it amused me.  I warned you it would be rambling.

 

Angus

 

 

[Abilene Slim SASS 81783]

💤  😁

[Stump Water]

Cops are closing in on the bad guy.  Bad guy outs with a... well, you know.  Everybody hollers, "GUN!"

 

As I said in the other thread, communication occurred.
 

[John Kloehr]

Stop giving the grabbers ideas.

[Yul Lose]

53 minutes ago, Black Angus McPherson said:

I've found some of the subjects of late highly entertaining, not particularly informative, but entertaining.  Along those lines I've started to ponder:  And bear with me, this is going to be rambling and, probably long.  So, if you're not in the mood for that bail out now.

 

If someone talks about a ".45 Automatic" do you assume they are talking about something like a Colt 1911 pistol - a semi-automatic, or an M-3 submachine gun?  And since someone has argued that a "gun" must be a smooth bore should the M-3 be a shotgun?  If someone says a gun is "fully automatic" I think we can all agree what that means, but are they wrong?  Doesn't "Automatic" mean it's a "Fully Automatic Machine gun"?  And there's that word again "Machine" gun.  I think an argument could be mad that all firearms are "machines".  Why aren't they all "Machine guns"?  And "SUBmachine gun"?  What about "Machine Rifles"?  That might be more accurate. So let's stop with the machine gun thing entirely.  The Germans might have been right all along with "Machine Gewehr" (probably spelled that wrong)  I think "Gewehr" means "Rifle".

 

"Pistol" only refers to semi-automatic handguns.  What if it has a switch to make it fire "Fully automatic"?  Is it still a pistol.  What about antique flintlock or percussion dueling pistols?  They are no longer pistols?  What are they?  Dueling handguns?  But I thought a "gun" was a smoothbore and some of them have rifling.  "Handrifle"?

 

REVOLVERS ARE NOT PISTOLS!  Well, they might have a point there.  Not all revolvers are pistols.  Some are rifles or shotguns or even grenade launchers.  But, I believe that 99% of current revolvers fall into the classification of "pistol".

 

Oh, crud, dinner is ready and I'm getting the stink eye.  Gotta go now.  You lucky beggers, I might have gone on for another half hour.

 

Anyway, I hope you find my ponders amusing.  If not, well, it amused me.  I warned you it would be rambling.

 

Angus

 

 

What’s for dinner?😊

[J-BAR #18287]

Me?  Leftover spaghetti and meatballs.  
 

You?

[Blackwater 53393]

59 minutes ago, J-BAR #18287 said:

Me?  Leftover spaghetti and meatballs.  
 

You?

Welllllll, let’s see!  There’s ground beef sliders left over from last night in the fridge.  I’ve got half of a Philly Cheese Steak sandwich from lunch today.

There’s one big roasted bratwurst and I’ve got onion and peppers to go with it.

I have some ice cold milk and a box of Life cereal.

I got a jug of ice cold sweet tea to wash any of that down and there’s some really good cookies too!!

[watab kid]

ive found them interesting , we need to enjoy our conversations , these have given me a lot of enjoyment as well as a few moments of pause to ponder , they have been mostly light hearted and refreshing , i liked that 

 

enjoy your meal , avoid the stinkeye , 

[Pat Riot]

I had a German coworker that was very proud of being German and looked down on our American English. He said it was because our descriptions and names for things often contradicted each other or were completely incorrect, but were accepted as they were. 
This conversation actually came about because of guns, firearms and many of the names related to firearms that @Black Angus McPhersonmentioned. 
I tried to explain to him how names or descriptors stick to certain things, even though technically incorrect, because of military terminology, movies and TV and local vernacular.

He wasn’t satisfied with my responses and reasoning so I finally told him we do this because even after so many years we hate Germans and we make it hard for Germans to understand our American English to keep them mentally off balance while they are in our country. 
I think he actually thought this might be the case because of his body language and expressions as he listened to me. His demeanor did not change even after I laughed and told him I was kidding. 
He then started telling me how great and wonderfully logical the German language was and how we should have adopted it, as was recommended, at the birth of our nation. (Talk about pedantic) 

I stopped him in what I am sure would be a glorious boastful speech on the greatness of the German people by saying “You guys are famous for mashing nouns together to form these huge words that mean very simple things.” 
We had just discussed this very thing regarding a 36 letter word for “cab ceiling” in a train. 
Anyway. I am going off on a ricochet. I am going back to bed. 
 

 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

5 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

I had a German coworker that was very proud of being German and looked down on our American English. He said it was because our descriptions and names for things often contradicted each other or were completely incorrect, but were accepted as they were. 
This conversation actually came about because of guns, firearms and many of the names related to firearms that @Black Angus McPhersonmentioned. 
I tried to explain to him how names or descriptors stick to certain things, even though technically incorrect, because of military terminology, movies and TV and local vernacular.

He wasn’t satisfied with my responses and reasoning so I finally told him we do this because even after so many years we hate Germans and we make it hard for Germans to understand our American English to keep them mentally off balance while they are in our country. 
I think he actually thought this might be the case because of his body language and expressions as he listened to me. His demeanor did not change even after I laughed and told him I was kidding. 
He then started telling me how great and wonderfully logical the German language was and how we should have adopted it, as was recommended, at the birth of our nation. (Talk about pedantic) 

I stopped him in what I am sure would be a glorious boastful speech on the greatness of the German people by saying “You guys are famous for mashing nouns together to form these huge words that mean very simple things.” 
We had just discussed this very thing regarding a 36 letter word for “cab ceiling” in a train. 
Anyway. I am going off on a ricochet. I am going back to bed. 
 

 

I used to speak and read fluent Hoch Deutch. (High German)  I never could write it.  Never knew where to put an umlaut.

 

German, and many other languages, are "longer" that American English.  What I mean is, it takes more words, and usually more letters and syllables to get something said......and some of them talk so fast I don't even know how they can follow it.  

 

A sign in my dentist's office has warning about things that may harm pregnant women, people with heart problems, etc.

 

It's in Spanish and English.

     English: 55 words, 78 syllables.  

     Spanish: 88 words,  104 syllables.  

 

(I was early for my appointment and bored.  One time I counted the holes in an acoustic ceiling...and other examples. Now I take a book of word search puzzles.)

 

Something else:  

 

German is a harsh sounding, almost militarily "command voice" sounding language.  Seldom do you hear anyone speaking German and another talking at the same time.

 

Spanish in some cases is almost musical.  It's not uncommon to hear three or four Spanish speakers all talking at one time and they all seem to know what's going on.  My wife said it sounded like an auctioneers argument.

 

Both are machine gun fast.

 

[Alpo]

Spanish was a required language in Tampa elementary School in the middle 60s when I was there. It was such fun, in the fourth grade, with Spanish one. I bet it was really enjoyable for my older brother in the 5th grade with Spanish two, having not had Spanish one since we had just moved to Tampa.

 

Anyway, one of the few things I remember from that class was the teacher telling us that it was almost impossible to speak Spanish without smiling.

[J-BAR #18287]

"Auctioneer's argument"

 

I like it!

[Subdeacon Joe]

Not an argument, but...

 

 

[Alpo]

A comment the chairman made at the end of that video.

 

X used to be Twitter, right? And when people would post anything on Twitter, they would "tweet".

 

Since it is no longer Twitter but is now X, what is it called when you post on it?

[Stump Water]

14 minutes ago, Alpo said:

Since it is no longer Twitter but is now X, what is it called when you post on it?

 

A post.

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

Not to be pedantic, but a "gun" can have rifling.  For example, the 16" GUNS on a battleship are indeed rifled.  And the are clearly guns, that's what the navy calls them.  

A rifle, if course, a gun that has rifled bore, that is shoulder fired.   A carbine is, most literally, a "short" rifle, and a "musket" has shifted from its original meaning of a shoulder fired weapon that is a smooth bore that fires a round lead ball about the same size as the bore to basically, an extra long barreled rifle, probably with a bayonet lug.

Of course, carbine is a very nebulous term.   Compare a US Krag Carbine to an M1 Rifle, they are about the same length.   An M-16 is about the same length as an M-1 Carbine, but is considered a rifle.  So is the M-4 Rifle a rifle, which is even shorter.   But the M-4 is pretty much the same size as the M-16 Shorty of the Vietnam era, that was indeed referred to as a carbine.

And if you are in the Army, never call your rifle or your sidearm a gun.   A gun is a big old cannon.   Or so I have been told.

And a .45 Automatic is a historical term specifically for the 1911.    With "semi-automatic" handguns, the terms, "auto-loader" and "automatic" have been used historically to refer to such "pistols."   

Now with regards to (used in the general sense) machine guns are even more complicated.

A machine gun, generically, is a weapon that starts shooting as soon as you pull the trigger and doesn't stop till you let go of the trigger.

More specifically...

Heavy Machine Gun:  A big honkin' thing, chambered for .50 BMG or similar cartridge, and is belt fed.
Machine Gun:  A medium sized thing, belt fed, and chambered for a typical rifle cartridge.  Examples include the Browning .30, Maxim, M-60 and others.
Light Machine Gun:  A shoulder fired rifle capable of "Full-Auto" fire.   Such as a BAR, M-14, M-16, AK47 and similar rifles chambered for a typical rifle cartridge.
Sub-Machine gun.  A shoulder fired "carbine" capable of full auto fire, that fires a pistol type cartridge, such as Tommy Gun, M-2 Carbine, PPSh-43, and other similar weapons.
Machine pistol:  A handgun capable of full auto fire.  Most historic example would be certain Broomhandles.   Perhaps the Mac-10 and maybe the Uzi would fit in this category.

Now, there can be some blurring between these categories.   Is the M-16 a Light Machine Gun or a Sub-Machine Gun, for example.  What about that German WWII gun that the SS always carried in their black uniforms in the movies and TV shows?

It is a puzzlement.

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

24 minutes ago, Alpo said:

A comment the chairman made at the end of that video.

 

X used to be Twitter, right? And when people would post anything on Twitter, they would "tweet".

 

Since it is no longer Twitter but is now X, what is it called when you post on it?

I always wondered if people who posted on Twitter were called "Twits."

[Alpo]

1 hour ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

Machine Gun:  A medium sized thing, belt fed, and chambered for a typical rifle cartridge.  THIS IS A LIGHT MACHINE GUN, NOT A MACHINE GUN Examples include the Browning .30, Maxim, M-60 and others.
Light Machine Gun:  A shoulder fired rifle capable of "Full-Auto" fire THIS IS AN AUTOMATIC RIFLE, NOT A LIGHT MACHINE GUN.   Such as a BAR, M-14, M-16, AK47 and similar rifles chambered for a typical rifle cartridge.
Sub-Machine gun.  A shoulder fired "carbine" capable of full auto fire, that fires a pistol type cartridge, such as Tommy Gun, M-2 Carbine THE M2 DOES NOT TAKE PISTOL CARTRIDGES THEREFORE IT IS NOT A SUBMACHINE GUN. THE MAJOR SPECIFICATION FOR A SUBMACHINE GUN IS IT IS CHAMBERED IN A PISTOL CARTRIDGE. THE M2 CARBINE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A RIFLE AND THE 30 CARBINE IS A RIFLE CARTRIDGE. THE FACT THAT IT IS BALLISTICALLY SIMILAR TO A PISTOL CARTRIDGE IS IRRELEVANT. IT IS A RIFLE CARTRIDGE. THEREFORE THE M2 CARBINE IS AN AUTOMATIC RIFLE, JUST LIKE A BAR, PPSh-43, and other similar weapons.

Pretty much the defining characteristics of a machine gun is it is belt fed and it is crew-served. Yes, I know the Lewis gun used a magazine. But machine guns are belt fed and they normally require two to three people. BAR - one person, magazine. M16 - one person, magazine. M14 - one person, magazine. AK-47 - one person, magazine. None of these are machine guns of any description. They are automatic rifles.

[John Kloehr]

Interesting comments. Further distinctions by caliber, meaning for particular military branches. The definition which matters to me is what is in the GCA and by extension NFA, as interpreted by the courts (bump stocks and FRTs).

 

As to some other comments, I just finished a fresh salad and am about to heat up some leftover chili I made a couple days ago.

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

1 hour ago, John Kloehr said:

As to some other comments, I just finished a fresh salad and am about to heat up some leftover chili I made a couple days ago.

 

Does it have beans in it?   Cuz if it has beans in it, it ain't chilli.

Then again, "cuz" and "ain't" aren't words, to be pedantic about it.

[El Chapo]

I just learned, this year, that the cartridge most 1911s shoot is called "45 Auto" by SAAMI.  I knew that people regularly clarify that what I thought was called 45 ACP was so-called to distinguish it from 45 Colt, but what I didn't know is that its official name is 45 Auto, not 45 ACP.  So now that I know that, all I picture is some kind of gun chambered for that cartridge and not the larger rimmed one.

 

I also try, at least outside of cowboy context, to not refer to revolvers as pistols.  150 years ago, it was probably perfectly normal to refer to all handguns as pistols, but after "auto pistols" became the norm, I think it was just eventually, at least in pragmatic speech, shortened to "pistol" so as to distingish one type of handgun from another.  The first "pistols" were neither "revolvers" nor "auto pistols" so this has definitely developed over time.  Pistols with a happy switch are called "submachine guns" in our version of English and probably "machine pistols" or some such in German, regardless of whether they look more like an MP-5 or Glock 18.

 

 

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

I'll throw a couple things to add to the confusion:

(1). A lever Action, (1892, 1894, etc.) Rifle has as standard a 20", 24" or 30" barrel. A Carbine can ALSO have a 20" or shorter barrel. The difference between the rifle and carbine is defined by the Stocks, both butt and fore, and whether the barrel is octagonal or round. So as far as Lever guns are concerned it's NOT barrel length. 

(2). In the Marine Corps Infantry Platoon, the Marine designated to use his M-16 on "Automatic" was called an "Automatic Rifleman", not a "Machine Gunner". That term was for the Marines in the Weapons Company Machine Gun Platoon who crewed the M-60s. 

[John Kloehr]

9 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

 

Does it have beans in it?   Cuz if it has beans in it, it ain't chilli.

Then again, "cuz" and "ain't" aren't words, to be pedantic about it.

Tomatoes too plus a couple ounces of tomato paste. But I use Chipotle Chile, Ancho Chili, Cumin, smoked Paprika and more. With beef chunks from a local cow, not injected with anything. But this is all arguments about Texas vs the northeast.

 

I know I should soak my beans rather than using canned,  Also I add carrots and celery in addition to onions and bell peppers (3 colors this time).

[John Kloehr]

35 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

I'll throw a couple things to add to the confusion:

(1). A lever Action, (1892, 1894, etc.) Rifle has as standard a 20", 24" or 30" barrel. A Carbine can ALSO have a 20" or shorter barrel. The difference between the rifle and carbine is defined by the Stocks, both butt and fore, and whether the barrel is octagonal or round. So as far as Lever guns are concerned it's NOT barrel length. 

(2). In the Marine Corps Infantry Platoon, the Marine designated to use his M-16 on "Automatic" was called an "Automatic Rifleman", not a "Machine Gunner". That term was for the Marines in the Weapons Company Machine Gun Platoon who crewed the M-60s. 

I kind of ran into this on a recent AR build. I considered 16" to be a carbine, but gas tubes are available in carbine, mid, and rifle length. Turns out the distinction is not the barrel length, but where the gas block is on the barrel of any length. So I needed a mid-length tube to go with my mid-length 16" barrel. When I ordered the barrel, I think I kind of resolved my initial confusion as the seller had 13.5" carbine barrels which will require a pin-and-weld muzzle break to not be an SBR. So now I have  spare carbine gas tube.

[Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103]

Then, too, vegetarian Chili Con Carne (yes, saw a can of it at the grocery store) is a contradiction in terms.
"Con Carne" means "With Meat" ... so Chili Con Carne with meat should by rights have twice as much meat as standard chili.

And I am still laughing at the auctioneer making himself far more memorable, and equally more entertaining, than the impolite sort taking the self important selfie video in back.

[watab kid]

yes , for the most part the first thing thatt jumps to my mind is a 1911 , but i have others so i know that's not the only one , yet my mind will always jump to the colt and  1911 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

21 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

I always wondered if people who posted on Twitter were called "Twits."

I like that.  I'll use it myself from now on.  Thanks.

[Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062]

On 11/15/2025 at 8:13 AM, Alpo said:

A comment the chairman made at the end of that video.

 

X used to be Twitter, right? And when people would post anything on Twitter, they would "tweet".

 

Since it is no longer Twitter but is now X, what is it called when you post on it?

 

 

  ......... mayhaps it should be called an "X-cretement".      💩    

[Joe LaFives #5481]

On 11/13/2025 at 5:19 PM, Black Angus McPherson said:

I've found some of the subjects of late highly entertaining, not particularly informative, but entertaining.  Along those lines I've started to ponder:  And bear with me, this is going to be rambling and, probably long.  So, if you're not in the mood for that bail out now.

 

If someone talks about a ".45 Automatic" do you assume they are talking about something like a Colt 1911 pistol - a semi-automatic, or an M-3 submachine gun?  And since someone has argued that a "gun" must be a smooth bore should the M-3 be a shotgun?  If someone says a gun is "fully automatic" I think we can all agree what that means, but are they wrong?  Doesn't "Automatic" mean it's a "Fully Automatic Machine gun"?  And there's that word again "Machine" gun.  I think an argument could be mad that all firearms are "machines".  Why aren't they all "Machine guns"?  And "SUBmachine gun"?  What about "Machine Rifles"?  That might be more accurate. So let's stop with the machine gun thing entirely.  The Germans might have been right all along with "Machine Gewehr" (probably spelled that wrong)  I think "Gewehr" means "Rifle".

 

"Pistol" only refers to semi-automatic handguns.  What if it has a switch to make it fire "Fully automatic"?  Is it still a pistol.  What about antique flintlock or percussion dueling pistols?  They are no longer pistols?  What are they?  Dueling handguns?  But I thought a "gun" was a smoothbore and some of them have rifling.  "Handrifle"?

 

REVOLVERS ARE NOT PISTOLS!  Well, they might have a point there.  Not all revolvers are pistols.  Some are rifles or shotguns or even grenade launchers.  But, I believe that 99% of current revolvers fall into the classification of "pistol".

 

Oh, crud, dinner is ready and I'm getting the stink eye.  Gotta go now.  You lucky beggers, I might have gone on for another half hour.

 

Anyway, I hope you find my ponders amusing.  If not, well, it amused me.  I warned you it would be rambling.

 

Angus

 

 

Actually Machine Pistol is correct items like a Steyr M1912 or MAC-10.  https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Category:Machine_Pistol

[Black Angus McPherson]

On 11/14/2025 at 6:18 PM, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

 

Does it have beans in it?   Cuz if it has beans in it, it ain't chilli.

Then again, "cuz" and "ain't" aren't words, to be pedantic about it.

 

I've been away for a couple days.  Just stepping back in for a minute to stir the pot.

 

I like my chili with beans.  I like my .45 Colt Long and the guy who named the Cowboy .45 Special is wrong.  It should be .45 Cowboy Special.  Bullet diameter first, then name.  It's not a Special .38, NATO 7.62mm, Parabellum 9mm or Auto .45 Colt Pistol.  Plus, it's the way most people want to refer to it.  It just seems right.  Just look at how often people have to be corrected when they mention the ".45 Cowboy Special".

 

Cowboy .45 Special is just awkward.  .45 Cowboy Special flows.  I will continue my campaign to bend the language to my (the correct) way of usage.

 

.45 Cowboy Special, .45 Long Colt and CHILI WITH BEANS!

 

Angus

 

p.s.  HK, you ain't from Texas so why do you care?  I thought  "If it's got beans it ain't, by God, chili" was a Texan thing.

Edited November 17 by Black Angus McPherson
added ps

[El Chapo]

38 minutes ago, Black Angus McPherson said:

 

I've been away for a couple days.  Just stepping back in for a minute to stir the pot.

 

I like my chili with beans.  I like my .45 Colt Long and the guy who named the Cowboy .45 Special is wrong.  It should be .45 Cowboy Special.  Bullet diameter first, then name.  It's not a Special .38, NATO 7.62mm, Parabellum 9mm or Auto .45 Colt Pistol.  Plus, it's the way most people want to refer to it.  It just seems right.  Just look at how often people have to be corrected when they mention the ".45 Cowboy Special".

 

Cowboy .45 Special is just awkward.  .45 Cowboy Special flows.  I will continue my campaign to bend the language to my (the correct) way of usage.

 

.45 Cowboy Special, .45 Long Colt and CHILI WITH BEANS!

 

Angus

 

p.s.  HK, you ain't from Texas so why do you care?  I thought  "If it's got beans it ain't, by God, chili" was a Texan thing.

 

They finally had an opportunity for there to be a .45 Short Colt and instead we got C.45S.

 

I like my .45 colt without a modifier.

 

And yes, this ain't Texas, chili has beans.

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

1 hour ago, Black Angus McPherson said:

 

p.s.  HK, you ain't from Texas so why do you care? 

 

Actually, I suppose I don't, really.   I don't like beans, but that's a separate issue.   If you must know the truth, I had just seen the episode of The Big Bang Theory where Sheldon, a Texan, explained that chili does not have beans in it, so it was on my mind.
 

I guess it's like how every time I see someone on TV say, "He's got Moxie," which I have oddly heard a lot lately, I find myself thinking "Does that person even know what Moxie IS?"  I'm from New England, so I do, by the way.   And yes, I actually LIKE the stuff. 

And just to be pedantic, I really am a "Yankee."  What is a Yankee?   Well, to people not from the USA, a Yankee is an American.  To an American, a Yankee is someone from the North.  To a Northerner, a Yankee is someone from New England.   To a New Englander, well, from there it get's a little silly.  Some would say it's someone from Vermont.  Others would say to qualify you have to have at least 2 generations of family in the ground.  Others would say you have to be born here.   Others would say that you just have to live here, or know that you put cheddar cheese on apple pie, not ice cream, or just like Moxie.   I qualify on the last three criteria.   Yeah, as much as I "Identify" as a New Englander, I have to admit that I was born in Detroit.  But I can prove that as well.  I can chug a Vernor's and not dissolve into a coughing fit!

And oh yeah, the ACP in .25 ACP .32 ACP, .38 ACP, 380 ACP and .45 ACP stands for Automatic Colt Pistol, and said cartridges are so named because they were first chambered in pistols made by Colt.  The .XX Auto designation is a abbreviation.  

With regard to .45 Colt being colloquially referred to as .45 Long Colt goes, I have decided that it ain't worth worrying about.   People know what you mean, irregardless of whatever the official name is.

[Abilene Slim SASS 81783]

I only got so far on the replies, then….💤  😁

[Alpo]

1 hour ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

To a New Englander, well, from there it get's a little silly. 

I heard that to a New Englander it is someone from Connecticut - example The Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

 

And to someone from Connecticut it is someone that has pie for breakfast.

 

I have no idea why, but that is the way I heard it.

[Alpo]

On the subject of beans in chili - I had a friend. His father would put beans in chili. He would complain.

 

I don't like beans in the chili!

 

His father would tell him that "you can't taste them".

 

He said that if you couldn't taste them why put them in?

 

"For the flavor."

 

But you just said you couldn't taste them!

 

And that would go round and round. Personally I figured that since his father was making the chili his choices was shut up and eat the chili with beans in it or go hungry.

 

I have been known to put canned corn in chili. That's pretty good. I'm sure your friends a lot of people, but half of everything Mexicans eat is corn. So why not put corn in the chili? I bet they do.

 

I also put mushrooms in mine, and I know that offends everybody that hears about it.