There is a first time for everything

[Alpo]

 

[Subdeacon Joe]

Hardest part is finding the hood latch.

[Alpo]

Sometime it's finding the battery.

 

In the early 2000s there was a guy in the parking lot with a dead battery in a new Mercedes. Was going to jump him off but the battery was not visible under the hood.

 

It was in the trunk.

[Cypress Sun]

VW Beetle batteries were under the back seat if I recall correctly.

[Count Sandor, SASS #74075]

2009-17 Chevy Traverse battery is under a panel behind the passenger seat.

 

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[Blackwater 53393]

To access the battery on the Pontiac Solstice, you have to remove the right front wheel and the inner fender!

 

My Buick Enclave has the battery in the box in the floor behind the passenger seat. You can jump the car from under the hood by means of remote battery posts on the right side just in front of the firewall.

 

My  ‘65 Corvette had the battery in a box in the floorboard behind the drivers seat.

[Stump Water]

2 hours ago, Alpo said:

It was in the trunk.

 

Same with the Challenger.

 

12 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

You can jump the car from under the hood by means of remote battery posts on the right side just in front of the firewall.

 

Same with the Challenger.

[Boggus Deal #64218]

And people wonder why parts stores can’t just agree to change a battery without seeing the vehicle. None of my stores have the equipment or time to jack up a car, take a tire off and half the car apart just to change the battery..

[watab kid]

5 hours ago, Stump Water said:

 

Same with the Challenger.

 

 

Same with the Challenger.

yes samewith my wife audie but the terminals are so far apart our regular jumpers could not work - had to buy a new set with longer cords 

[Rye Miles #13621]

I was told never to jump a car with my 2022 Buick Encore. It can mess up all the electronics. I’m not a mechanic but this was told to me by the dealer. 

[Calamity Kris]

1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

I was told never to jump a car with my 2022 Buick Encore. It can mess up all the electronics. I’m not a mechanic but this was told to me by the dealer. 

 

Same with my car.

[Cypress Sun]

My vehicle is 25+ years old. I was advised when I bought it that jumping another vehicle could cause problems with my own vehicle's electronics and/or battery. Other than my gal's car, I'm hesitant to jump anyone else's vehicle and haven't at this point.

[Eyesa Horg]

One thing I've been told is that when you jump another vehicle DO NOT start your own car. For the reasoning of the electronics. Most vehicles that have an actual manual will state the proper procedure for your vehicle.

[Rip Snorter]

I'm about to buy a free standing jump starter.  Compact and they don't cost a lot.

[Alpo]

I noticed that both of the cars in that video are newish - they have a push button start. They don't have an ignition key on the steering column like mine do.

 

Both of my vehicles are 40 or more years old. The way I was taught to jump off a car ---

 

Start my car. Do not wait till everything is hooked up to attempt to start my car. Have it running first.

Put the red on my positive. Put the other end of the red on the other positive. Then put the black on my negative. Put the other end of the black to some grounding point on the other car. Not to the black on the other battery, because that will be trying to charge the battery. Screw that - once their engine is running let their alternator charge the battery. So the other end of the negative cable grounds on the dead car.

 

When the other car is running, with my left hand I disconnect the black from the ground point on the other car. Holding it far away from either car I take the black cable off my battery. Now I take the red cable off the other car's battery and then I take the red cable off my battery. In that pattern I hooked it up - my red to the other red then my black to ground. Remove it exactly backwards - other car ground, then my black, then other car red, then my red. Ain't no arcin' and sparkin' that way.

 

But neither of my trucks have computers. Which may make a large difference in the way you have to do it.

[Alpo]

If the dead car has a positive ground, can you jump it from a car with a negative ground?

 

Put my red to the dead car's black, and then my black to a ground point?

 

Or with the better plan to be, once I have realized that that car has a positive ground, tell them to call a tow truck?

[Still hand Bill]

1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said:

One thing I've been told is that when you jump another vehicle DO NOT start your own car. For the reasoning of the electronics. Most vehicles that have an actual manual will state the proper procedure for your vehicle.

Only problem with that is it probably won’t start the other vehicle without the source vehicle running.  Voltage is only 12.3-12.5 v and will drop under load.  When running it will 14-14.5.  

[Blackwater 53393]

The reason for hooking the last cable end to something other than the battery is to prevent sparks near the battery! A wayward spark can ignite the gasses produced by a battery, resulting in a possible explosion or fire!

 

Hooking that cable to a ground elsewhere on the vehicle is effectively the same as hooking it to the battery post. YOU’RE STILL CHARGING THE OTHER VEHICLE’S BATTERY!!

 

The best procedure, if you MUST jumpstart another vehicle is to hook the cables up as described above and start the vehicle that’s supplying the charge. Allow the battery of the vehicle you’re trying to start to charge sufficiently to start that vehicle on its own.  When the battery is charged well enough, shut off the “donor” vehicle and disconnect one or more of the cables. If the other vehicle doesn’t start, repeat the process.

 

Connecting cables to or from a running vehicle can and likely WILL cause power spikes or surges. This is what tends to damage electronics and charging system components.

 

If the offending vehicle fails to start after a couple of tries using this procedure, stop attempting to jump the vehicle and either get a battery charger or replace the battery, or both!

[Blackwater 53393]

To jump start a positive ground vehicle using a negative ground vehicle, be sure that the two vehicles are NOT in physical contact with each other!

 

With both vehicles’ ignition systems turned OFF, hook the negative cable to the negative post on both batteries.  Hook the positive cable to the positive battery post of the negative ground vehicle and then to ground on the positive ground vehicle. There should be no or very little spark, just like a normal final connection!!

 

Then start the vehicle that’s supplying the jump and allow the battery of the other vehicle to charge. DO NOT TURN THE IGNITION OF THE VEHICLE NEEDING THE BOOST ON!!!

 

When the weak battery has received a sufficient charge, shut off the charging vehicle and disconnect one or more cables and ONLY THEN attempt to start the other vehicle.

[John Kloehr]

Before connecting a running car to a dead car, turn on the headlights and set the HVAC fan on high. This is enough draw to ensure the alternator is providing current. The sudden spike when connecting a running vehicle to a dead vehicle can damage the jumping vehicle when the alternator is suddenly required to kick in.

[Jiminy Cricket]

I keep one of these in the Outback because I camp in my car and, sometimes I drain the battery further than intended.  It's also come in handy to help other people more than once.

 

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