WAD recommendation for 60 grains by weight bp and 1-1/4 oz of shot

[Snakebite Dust SASS 75484]

Does anyone load around 60 grains of BP with a 1-1/4 ounce of shot?

 

If so, what wad do you use??

 

Trying to save some time.

 

thanks!

[Dogmeat Dad, SASS #48563L]

Back off the shot just a little and you can use the Claybusters CB1138-12 wads.  I run 1 oz of shot but it will do more.  That is loaded in either a Winchester AA or a STS Green Hulls, either seem to work fine.

 

 

There is another thread running right now where folks are talking about their loads.  You might want to check it out.

 

BP Shotshell Reloading Cost

 

 

Edited September 29 by Dogmeat Dad, SASS #48563L
'Cause I Don't Spel Two Gud!

[Snakebite Dust SASS 75484]

2 minutes ago, Dogmeat Dad, SASS #48563L said:

Back off the shot just a little and you can use the Claybusters CB1138-12 wads.  I run 1 oz of shot but it will do more.

 

 

There is another thread running right now where folks are talking about their loads.  You might want to check it out.

 

BP Shotshell Reloading Cost

 

 

Thanks

These are the ones I currently use for 1 ounce of shot

[Sgt. Hochbauer, SASS #64409]

I use a 1 oz square load of 2f bp and nitro card then fiber wad Also place an overshot card over the shot before crimping in case there is a bit of a hole in the crimp.

 

Hochbauer

[Boggus Deal #64218]

Ibuprofen…

[Eyesa Horg]

About 50% hotter and heavier than mine. I'm just looking to knock it down, not kill it! 

[Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933]

For SASS your load is WAY overkill.  Why would you want to shoot 1 1/4 oz loads?  For SASS you want between 35 and 40 grains of powder and 7/8 or 1 ounce of shot.

[I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321]

I too load about half that and a 1 1/4 oz is a bit an overkill.  A 1 oz. shot and 30 grains of BP is enough to knock 'em down. 

[Blackwater 53393]

If you’re loading for competition, your load is heavy overkill!  If you’re loading to make lots of racket and smoke’n’ flame, ya’ STILL don’t need all that shot.

 

If you use that much powder and use fiber wads, you’ll most likely blow a hole in your shot pattern!  This is especially true if your shotgun is not a tight bore.

 

It also gets pretty durned expensive with powder going for $30.00 a pound and shot is about double what it was only a few years ago!

 

A trick that I use when I’m shooting cannon loads is to take the shot cup from a plastic wad, (I recently received a bunch of shot cups without the cushion or powder seal) and place that over fiber wads.  The shot cup seems to help keep the shot bunched better as it leaves the barrel.

 

I still use an ounce of shot for most of my 12ga loads, but I’m leaning toward 7/8 ounce recently in my smokeless loads.

[Abilene Slim SASS 81783]

Not only is it overkill for our game, it’s really hard on the ears of those around you, even with hearing protection. Many of us struggle with damaged hearing already, so if you’re must shoot artillery loads, be courteous and warn the posse - especially the TO and spotters - ahead of time. 

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

8 hours ago, Dogmeat Dad, SASS #48563L said:

Back off the shot just a little and you can use the Claybusters CB1138-12 wads.  I run 1 oz of shot but it will do more.  That is loaded in either a Winchester AA or a STS Green Hulls, either seem to work fine....

 

This is also the wad I'm using, with 60gr of BP and 1 oz, but for years I loaded 1 1/8 oz with the same components.  The crimp was perfect.  Now that I've dropped back to 1 oz of shot, the crimp is a tad concave.   Yeah, a lot of people want to use the lightest load they can, but for all the years I used 60gr BP and 1 1/8 oz nobody ever complained that they were too heavy for any reason.  Long ago I did load one box with 1 1/4 oz of shot (roll-crimped them) for "just-in-case" hard knockdowns, but I've never needed them.

[Kid Rich]

Find a plastic wad that will hold however much shot you want to use. Put in the amount of powder that you desire, use a wooden dowel to seat a cardboard wad on top of the powder firmly then measure what column height you want in the shell and cut off the base of the wad to fit in the shell and give you the proper height. Easy to do, makes great BP shells. Not rocket science but works perfect. I also used to use a very thin overshot card in case my crimp was not perfect. By using a plastic wad you will pretty much eliminate concerns of getting holes in your pattern from an imperfect ratio of shot to powder.

kR

21 hours ago, Snakebite Dust SASS 75484 said:

Does anyone load around 60 grains of BP with a 1-1/4 ounce of shot?

 

If so, what wad do you use??

 

Trying to save some time.

 

thanks!

 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

30g fff clay buster 7/8 wad and crimp .

Saves Time and Money  !

 

https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Claybuster-CB0178-12-12ga-WAA12L-Wad-500_bag/productinfo/030CB12L/

[El Chapo]

9 minutes ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

30g fff clay buster 7/8 wad and crimp .

Saves Time and Money  !

 

https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Claybuster-CB0178-12-12ga-WAA12L-Wad-500_bag/productinfo/030CB12L/

 

I use their 1 oz wad, the WAA12SL clone, 3.1 cc of fff, and 7/8 ounce of shot in a 1 oz shot cup.

[Blackwater 53393]

Another trick that I’ve used is to place a nitro over powder card in the shot cup to take up space and reduce the amount of shot needed to fill it.

 

Some folks use a dried bean to fill the void, but I found that the bean sometimes breaks up the pattern.

 

A 20ga nitro card works well in a 12ga shot cup. I use a 16ga in my 10ga loads when I have to fill the cup to get a decent crimp.

 

 

[Griff]

What hulls you use are important.  I use AA once fired I either scrounge off the range or the Winchester LNLR I save from my wild bunch matches.  209 Primers, 3F APP dropped thru a #37 MEC bushing , a Clay Buster 1138-12 and 1 oz #8 shot.  It's a still a stouter load than necessary for CAS, but dropping powder or shot charge loosens my crimp and leads to dribbling shot.  I still have close to 1K of these wads to use before I start researching a new one.

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

 

Ah Ha!!  None of the above (mostly - Hi Ya Griff).  I realize this ain't much help, but, I like 40Gr 2F APP (by WEIGHT), a BPSpritfre wad for a one ounce payload of 7 1/2 shot, and over shot card, all stuffed inna MagTech All Brass 12Ga hull.  If I hit it, it goes down you betcha.

[Blackwater 53393]

You can always load up some 10ga brass shells with 140gr of FFFg Black Powder and an ounce and a half of shot!!  
 

Even if you miss, the targets fall from the shockwave!! 🤣

 

 

 

 

(I got witnesses that’ll testify to it!) 😜 

 

 

[Snakebite Dust SASS 75484]

13 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

You can always load up some 10ga brass shells with 140gr of FFFg Black Powder and an ounce and a half of shot!!  
 

Even if you miss, the targets fall from the shockwave!! 🤣

 

 

 

 

(I got witnesses that’ll testify to it!) 😜 

 

 

We have a local guy who brings out his 8 gauge once a year and probably puts that much powder and shot in it. 

[Leroy Luck]

If you’re going for Pale Rider type loads,

 

I’ve used 60 grains of black, one nitro card, one 1/2” fiber wad cut in half (so it’s then 1/4” thick), 1-1/8oz of shot, an overshot card with a roll crimp works out well. 

 

If I recall correctly, 60grains by volume is real close to 1-1/8oz of shot. Patterns nicely.