SBH Hammers Available - Found Some

[Waimea]

On Brownells for less than 7 minutes.

I got an email notification at 1:46.

Clicked the link at 1:52 and the message on the page - 

Out of stock.

[Yellowstone Vic SASS#32968]

Back ordered a set from Midway last month. 

Kat messaged me this afternoon that they arrived in the mail. 
 

Never had luck trying to “race the email” to Brownells.   

 

 

[Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life]

1 hour ago, Yellowstone Vic SASS#32968 said:

Back ordered a set from Midway last month. 

Kat messaged me this afternoon that they arrived in the mail. 
 

Never had luck trying to “race the email” to Brownells.   

 

 

Same here, got the Brownells email, by the time I got into my account...... sold out

Crazy thing I had backordered some of the ones without the spring loaded thingee (technical term) back in March

guess what showed up today!

Regards

    

Gateway Kid

[Maddog McCoy SASS #5672]

I got notifications from Midway and Brownell today. Both out of stock when I checked, resigned up for notifications. I backordered some the last time, I got a notification from Midway, got them about a week ago. If you are quick, once you get the notification, I think Midway will let a few backorders go thru.

Only thing to do is wait and see.

[Waimea]

12 hours ago, Maddog McCoy SASS #5672 said:

I got notifications from Midway and Brownell today. Both out of stock when I checked, resigned up for notifications. I backordered some the last time, I got a notification from Midway, got them about a week ago. If you are quick, once you get the notification, I think Midway will let a few backorders go thru.

Only thing to do is wait and see.

 

Thanks Maddog.

I never got a notification from Midway.

I will try the backorder method next time.

[SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER]

You generally have less than a minute from the time you get text notification....email notifications, forget it.

[Pops Corbin]

I back ordered some from midway when they notified me and got them in a week. I think if they notify you, you can backorder from that link if you go to the website it shows out of stock.

Brownells sent me a notification today but I’ve already got them from Midway 

[Nostrum Damus SASS #110702]

Can anyone explain why any halfway competent machine shop can't make enough of these to satisfy the obvious demand?

[Shawnee Hills]

1 hour ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:

Can anyone explain why any halfway competent machine shop can't make enough of these to satisfy the obvious demand?

Power Custom makes one: https://powercustom.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=1126

[El Sobrante Kid]

1 hour ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:

Can anyone explain why any halfway competent machine shop can't make enough of these to satisfy the obvious demand?

 

Because the market it too small and the cost to tool up for production (to make a decent product) would be so high that you would probably never break even. Especially with a company as big as Ruger as your competition. A better question would be, why doesn't Ruger make a bunch more of these since they've got the tooling and equipment ready to go. The answer; because the market is too small and they can make more profit producing other products.

[Nostrum Damus SASS #110702]

11 hours ago, El Sobrante Kid said:

 

Because the market it too small and the cost to tool up for production (to make a decent product) would be so high that you would probably never break even. Especially with a company as big as Ruger as your competition. A better question would be, why doesn't Ruger make a bunch more of these since they've got the tooling and equipment ready to go. The answer; because the market is too small and they can make more profit producing other products.

That doesn't make any sense to me, frankly.  Who made the small batch that sold out in minutes on both Midway and Brownell?  They already tooled up.  Whoever did, they took the time and devoted the resources to set up that tiny production run.  The direct cost of manufacture (including line set-up spread over the run quantity) per piece goes down when quantity produced goes up; it is far more profitable to produce a lot of SBH hammers in a single run than to produce just a few.  So, why did whoever make this small batch not do a larger run?

[John Kloehr]

54 minutes ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:

That doesn't make any sense to me, frankly.  Who made the small batch that sold out in minutes on both Midway and Brownell?  They already tooled up.  Whoever did, they took the time and devoted the resources to set up that tiny production run.  The direct cost of manufacture (including line set-up spread over the run quantity) per piece goes down when quantity produced goes up; it is far more profitable to produce a lot of SBH hammers in a single run than to produce just a few.  So, why did whoever make this small batch not do a larger run?

Maybe some smaller number of them found after some previous larger production run? The just flushed out to distribution...

[Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428]

As popular as SBH hammers seem to be (I like it too, but only on by Super Blackhawk), I am surprised some smith hasn't developed a process to convert normal hammers to SBH style hammers.   Some weld and some grind and bingo.

[Boggus Deal #64218]

1 hour ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:

That doesn't make any sense to me, frankly.  Who made the small batch that sold out in minutes on both Midway and Brownell?  They already tooled up.  Whoever did, they took the time and devoted the resources to set up that tiny production run.  The direct cost of manufacture (including line set-up spread over the run quantity) per piece goes down when quantity produced goes up; it is far more profitable to produce a lot of SBH hammers in a single run than to produce just a few.  So, why did whoever make this small batch not do a larger run?

Ruger made them! They’re in the gun selling business not parts selling business. 
Look at Power Custom to see what the cost of these are when a small manufacturer produces them. As a manufacturer of tools and parts myself, I go through this. Sure, it would be a LOT cheaper per item if I made 10,000 pieces at a time instead of 100. But I don’t that kind of capital laying around. 
Tell you what, cough up $100,000 and I’ll have a few hundred pairs of SBH hammers made. 

[Boggus Deal #64218]

2 minutes ago, Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 said:

As popular as SBH hammers seem to be (I like it too, but only on by Super Blackhawk), I am surprised some smith hasn't developed a process to convert normal hammers to SBH style hammers.   Some weld and some grind and bingo.

Several people do. And it’s time consuming and not cheap. 

[El Sobrante Kid]

3 hours ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:

That doesn't make any sense to me, frankly.  Who made the small batch that sold out in minutes on both Midway and Brownell?  They already tooled up.  Whoever did, they took the time and devoted the resources to set up that tiny production run.  The direct cost of manufacture (including line set-up spread over the run quantity) per piece goes down when quantity produced goes up; it is far more profitable to produce a lot of SBH hammers in a single run than to produce just a few.  So, why did whoever make this small batch not do a larger run?

 

Ruger is the most likely manufacturer, not sure why you think it would be anyone else. Ruger makes parts for their guns all the time, but they don't make ALL of the parts, ALL of the time. And the hammers that sold on Midway and Brownell's were always destined to go out to retailers, bagged as parts. If you want a bigger supply of these hammers, you really need to turn your enthusiasm in the direction of Ruger. Give them a call and find the person in charge of making the decision about how many of these hammers will be made in the next production cycle. Ask him/her if they could make say 200 to 1000 more to be sold as parts, because they are very popular with the CAS shooters and will sell like hotcakes. See what the person in charge tells you about why Ruger will or will not make more hammers. GL!

[Nostrum Damus SASS #110702]

2 hours ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said:

Several people do. And it’s time consuming and not cheap. 

Exactly.  But Ruger has the capital to do a run of 10,000 pair and can get it done in relatively short order.  Ruger is in the business of making MONEY, not guns; don't confuse one for the other.  And they DO make and sell parts ... LOTS of parts.  See https://shopruger.com/Parts/departments/7000/.  And there is a proven market demand for this part.  

[Badlands Bob #61228]

There may be shortage in our little world.  However, if Ruger cranked up and made 1,000 pair of SBH hammers and put them on their website, it would probably take years to sell them all.  I have four NMVs with the SBH hammers installed on them.  I'm not in the market for anymore.  They don't wear out and there's only so many Cowboys willing to buy them.  I know it's frustrating trying to find them but it's a very small niche market that probably isn't worth Ruger's trouble.

[Tyrel Cody]

21 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said:

There may be shortage in our little world.  However, if Ruger cranked up and made 1,000 pair of SBH hammers and put them on their website, it would probably take years to sell them all.  I have four NMVs with the SBH hammers installed on them.  I'm not in the market for anymore.  They don't wear out and there's only so many Cowboys willing to buy them.  I know it's frustrating trying to find them but it's a very small niche market that probably isn't worth Ruger's trouble.

This^^^^^^
 

@Nostrum Damus SASS #110702

I bet if you called Ruger and ordered 500 they’d make them; then you could resell to the rest of us at cost…

[Boggus Deal #64218]

1 hour ago, Tyrel Cody said:

This^^^^^^
 

@Nostrum Damus SASS #110702

I bet if you called Ruger and ordered 500 they’d make them; then you could resell to the rest of us at cost…

I’m sure they would but it would probably be a year before get back to making those hammers.

[Nostrum Damus SASS #110702]

2 hours ago, Tyrel Cody said:

This^^^^^^
 

@Nostrum Damus SASS #110702

I bet if you called Ruger and ordered 500 they’d make them; then you could resell to the rest of us at cost…

A better and more practical idea is to find out how many folks want them and negotiate a bulk purchase from Ruger.  GROUPON for SBH Hammers, or something like that.  Say something like: "the next time you tool up to make more, make [whatever number] of sets for us to buy in bulk."  I can understand why Brownell's and MidwayUSA have no interest in carrying such inventory, but for SASS members it would simply be cutting out the middleman.  It is always possible, of course, that Ruger has agreements with the retailers that restrict Ruger's ability to sell certain parts direct to consumers, but the website page I sent around seems to suggest not.

[Boggus Deal #64218]

7 minutes ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:

A better and more practical idea is to find out how many folks want them and negotiate a bulk purchase from Ruger.  GROUPON for SBH Hammers, or something like that.  Say something like: "the next time you tool up to make more, make [whatever number] of sets for us to buy in bulk."  I can understand why Brownell's and MidwayUSA have no interest in carrying such inventory, but for SASS members it would simply be cutting out the middleman.  It is always possible, of course, that Ruger has agreements with the retailers that restrict Ruger's ability to sell certain parts direct to consumers, but the website page I sent around seems to suggest not.

It’s not the retailers. It’s the lawyers. The reason Ruger doesn’t sell barrels or cylinders or other certain parts to just anyone. 
And since SASS is such a VERY small market to Ruger, why would they do something like that?

[El Sobrante Kid]

39 minutes ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:

A better and more practical idea is to find out how many folks want them and negotiate a bulk purchase from Ruger.  GROUPON for SBH Hammers, or something like that.  Say something like: "the next time you tool up to make more, make [whatever number] of sets for us to buy in bulk."  I can understand why Brownell's and MidwayUSA have no interest in carrying such inventory, but for SASS members it would simply be cutting out the middleman.  It is always possible, of course, that Ruger has agreements with the retailers that restrict Ruger's ability to sell certain parts direct to consumers, but the website page I sent around seems to suggest not.

 

Let us know what you find out and where you want us to register for how many hammers we want to purchase. I'm sure you will want some kind of deposit so you will have to set up something in that regard, unless you are planning on paying for all of this out of your pocket (or on borrowed money). Keeping track of all that will be a major PIA, but on the good side you will be a hero to whatever number of CAS pards who want to buy some of these. Thx

[Jackaroo, # 29989]

On 5/7/2025 at 10:31 AM, Waimea said:

On Brownells for less than 7 minutes.

I got an email notification at 1:46.

Clicked the link at 1:52 and the message on the page - 

Out of stock.

John Barleycorn probably bought 'em all. Selling them for $186.00 ??

[Nostrum Damus SASS #110702]

11 hours ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said:

It’s not the retailers. It’s the lawyers. The reason Ruger doesn’t sell barrels or cylinders or other certain parts to just anyone. 
And since SASS is such a VERY small market to Ruger, why would they do something like that?

Why? More, and presumably easy, MONEY.  

Ruger sells modular fire control groups.  That assembly is more likely to malfunction than any barrel or cylinder, but selling it is ok with their lawyers.  They sell barrels too (https://shopruger.com/Barrels-Muzzle-Devices/products/5800/).  I don't think it is the lawyers that stops Ruger from offering SBH hammers.  I think they just make more money by using cylinders in their own complete guns than by selling them separately.   And maybe that's true with SBH hammers, too.  But people are apparently not buying new Super Blackhawk Standard and Hunter Revolvers in huge numbers, so waiting to turn SBH hammers into guns and then into money is a slower process for them, and it is also always true that TIME = MONEY.

[Boggus Deal #64218]

35 minutes ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:

Why? More, and presumably easy, MONEY.  

Ruger sells modular fire control groups.  That assembly is more likely to malfunction than any barrel or cylinder, but selling it is ok with their lawyers.  They sell barrels too (https://shopruger.com/Barrels-Muzzle-Devices/products/5800/).  I don't think it is the lawyers that stops Ruger from offering SBH hammers.  I think they just make more money by using cylinders in their own complete guns than by selling them separately.   And maybe that's true with SBH hammers, too.  But people are apparently not buying new Super Blackhawk Standard and Hunter Revolvers in huge numbers, so waiting to turn SBH hammers into guns and then into money is a slower process for them, and it is also always true that TIME = MONEY.

Those are drop in barrels. Find one for a New Vaquero for sale on their site…

they will still sell more SBHs than they will hammers. 
I still challenge you to make a batch and see just how many you sell.

[Nostrum Damus SASS #110702]

3 minutes ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said:

Those are drop in barrels. Find one for a New Vaquero for sale on their site…

they will still sell more SBHs than they will hammers. 
I still challenge you to make a batch and see just how many you sell.

LOL, who would buy anything made by Nostrum Damus??  I suppose this is all just pie-in-the-sky talk anyway ... if MIDWAYUSA and BROWNELL'S know they sell out whatever they get in seconds, and if even MIDWAYUSA and BROWNELL'S can't place an order for more SBH hammers, then there is some reason, whatever it may be, why Ruger won't make enough to satisfy the obvious demand. End of discussion.

[Boggus Deal #64218]

16 minutes ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:

LOL, who would buy anything made by Nostrum Damus??  

I sell out every single firing pin and tool I make. And that’s not a bogus deal. That’s a Boggus Deal!😂

[Irish Pat]

I have two Ruger SHB hammers I bought from John Barleycorn and now I don’t need them. I sent my Rugers to Shotgun Boogie for action job and he had his own hammers. Mine are gathering dust if anyone wants to buy a pair. How about  $200 shipped for both? Irish ☘️ Pat

[Irish Pat]

[Palmetto Traveller]

I was able to purchase a pair directly from Ruger some months ago but the last time I called (3 or 4 weeks ago) I was told they will only sell parts through a licensed FFL and I should have never been able to purchase when I did.

IMHO if Ruger doesn't want to sell direct then make more available to retailers such as Midway and Brownells. It's frustrating as can be to get the notifications from these 2 only to click the link to add to cart and get an out of stock, no backorders message. If these 2 would allow backorders then they could negotiate a bulk purchase from Ruger to meet everyone's needs.

[El Sobrante Kid]

4 minutes ago, Palmetto Traveller said:

I was able to purchase a pair directly from Ruger some months ago but the last time I called (3 or 4 weeks ago) I was told they will only sell parts through a licensed FFL and I should have never been able to purchase when I did.

IMHO if Ruger doesn't want to sell direct then make more available to retailers such as Midway and Brownells. It's frustrating as can be to get the notifications from these 2 only to click the link to add to cart and get an out of stock, no backorders message. If these 2 would allow backorders then they could negotiate a bulk purchase from Ruger to meet everyone's needs.

 

Agree 100%. So if Ruger can sell more hammers and make more money; and if the retailers with some clout like Brownell's and Midway can sell more hammers and make more money, there must be a pretty good (or at least interesting) reason why they don't. I'm sure that someone in the CAS world has a contact at Ruger that could (anonymously) explain why this situation exists.

[Mister Badly]

On 5/6/2025 at 8:31 PM, Waimea said:

On Brownells for less than 7 minutes.

I got an email notification at 1:46.

Clicked the link at 1:52 and the message on the page - 

Out of stock.

Check your mail

[Beartrap SASS#57175]

Ok, boys and girls, just suck it up and send Barleycorn (or somebody) the dough.😆

[Waimea]

On 5/9/2025 at 10:06 AM, Palmetto Traveller said:

 I was told they will only sell parts through a licensed FFL ...

 

When I found out about the FFL thing I had just let mine expire about 4 months before.

I should have renewed it and just sold SBH Hammers on the side. Flood the market.

 

UPDATE:

Mr Badley sold me an extra pair that he had bought for what he paid for them.

That's a terrible Outlaw attitude.

But thank you most kindly, Mr Badley!