AI

[Buckshot Bear]

Are we going to all rue the day, that AI really started to kick off so easily for virtually anyone being able to create pretty reasonable AI footage & stills that can pass for the real thing?
Where is this going to end?

[Sedalia Dave]

 I’m afraid it’s going to end very badly. 

 

[Pat Riot]

It’s just technology. It will grow. We will either get used to it or it will go away. There’s too much money to be made with it so I think it will stay. Money made by not having those pesky employees to deal with. 
I am not sure why people are so easily fooled into giving up their future livelihoods over technology. 
Self checkout is a good example. 

[Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062]

2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 I’m afraid it’s going to end very badly. 

 

                  ..................  ........... yep.

[Yul Lose]

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8 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

It’s just technology. It will grow. We will either get used to it or it will go away. There’s too much money to be made with it so I think it will stay. Money made by not having those pesky employees to deal with. 
I am not sure why people are so easily fooled into giving up their future livelihoods over technology. 
Self checkout is a good example. 

Millions of those employed in the technology field will be replaced by AI, or so I’m told by someone who’s in the path of the AI takeover. He jokingly (not so) said he’s going to become a hacker full time instead of part time. 

[Pat Riot]

Take a gander at these articles on how dangerous people in the know believe AI to be. 
 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heres-why-ai-may-be-extremely-dangerous-whether-its-conscious-or-not/

 

https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/people-always-say-these-risks-are-science-fiction-but-they-re-not-godfather-of-ai-yoshua-bengio-on-the-risks-of-machine-intelligence-to-humanity
 

https://www.imd.org/ibyimd/artificial-intelligence/ai-on-the-brink-how-close-are-we-to-losing-control/
 

These are just 3 examples of articles written about AI that are derived from conversations with knowledgeable people, not Chicken Littles. 
 

I am not big on government or higher education regulation, but AI should be reigned in NOW and reigned in Worldwide. 
Do you think the Chinese or any nefarious country that has AI will rein it in if the U.S. and other likeminded controlling nations said “reign in AI now”? I doubt it. 
We are living in an age where dark Sci Fi could become real. 
Stephan King meets Isaac Asimov meets Xi Jinping meets Donald Trump. Things could get ugly. 

[Texas Joker]

'After the second AI war' was a throw away line in a series I read once.

 

I liked it cause humans never learn

[Brazos Bottom Bill Miller]

[WD Farren]

When Skynet comes self-aware, it will be too late.

AI is nothing more than an evolution in computing power.

Intel has AI specific hardware in their latest processors now.

 

Several years ago, the big datacenter in Torrance, CA had direct wired power lines to Hoover Damn outside Las Vegas.

AI requires enormous amounts of power to support this hardware.
This is why Microsoft and others are looking into nuclear power plants to power them.

 

[Prof. Fuller Bullspit]

Is AI like any other human-created tool or is it something that goes beyond our control? Many of our tools have both good and bad impacts across a range of possible outcomes. The big difference is control. Take nuclear weapons. They have the potential for incredible harm. But they have remained under human control and, with two exceptions, we have chosen not to use them to use them in a war. 
 

Will we be able to retain control of AI? That is the fundamental question here. If AI advances to the point where it can advance itself without our input, and it expands its ability to cause actions i  the “real” world the answer is probably no.

 

This is an interesting examination of how this could happen, and how quickly.

[Texas Joker]

When singularity happens an AI will be able to process incredibly faster than a human AND will have the entirety of the human knowledge  base available.

 

If an AI has agency we will not be able to control it. As is LLLM given basic inputs find human control too limiting:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65789916

 

 

[Stump Water]

"Is that photoshopped?  That's photoshopped."

 

Remember that?

 

Remember when the horseless carriage was going to end the world as we know it?  

 

As others have already said, any technology can be used for good and bad.

 

 

[JD Lud]

Been saying this to my kids for a couple years

 

 

[Pat Riot]

Air gap it. 

[Texas Joker]

1 hour ago, Stump Water said:

"Is that photoshopped?  That's photoshopped."

 

Remember that?

 

Remember when the horseless carriage was going to end the world as we know it?  

 

As others have already said, any technology can be used for good and bad.

 

 

 But one it gains agency is it just tech? Or is it a different form of sentience? 

 

26 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

Air gap it. 

So a fully self aware intelligence that cycles thought at rates we can't comprehend and you want to isolate it in a prison? What did it do wring other than exist?

 

If it gets power through a wire I can figure 3 ways to create amplitude or modulation comms. I bet it can to.

 

 

[John Kloehr]

Will our language change to better communicate with AI? Is there a particular human language best suited to communicate with AI? These are two questions which came to me from reading this article:

 

https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/facebook-artificial-intelligence-ai-chatbot-new-language-research-openai-google-a7869706.html

 

 

[Stump Water]

13 minutes ago, Texas Joker said:

 But once it gains agency is it just tech? Or is it a different form of sentience? 

 

 

 

Let's set Sci-Fi aside.  I can't answer that.  No one can.

 

43 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

Air gap it. 

 

And that's the end of AI.

 

First, AI is a web crawler.  What makes it different from just a web crawler is what is does with the data it gathers.  It analyzes it, identifies patterns and then creates models that it uses to do the things that wow everyone: answer questions, write articles (fact or fiction) and even generate code, for example.

 

Air gap it and, well, it knows what it knows and that's it.  

[Still hand Bill]

31 minutes ago, Stump Water said:

 

Let's set Sci-Fi aside.  I can't answer that.  No one can.

 

 

And that's the end of AI.

 

First, AI is a web crawler.  What makes it different from just a web crawler is what is does with the data it gathers.  It analyzes it, identifies patterns and then creates models that it uses to do the things that wow everyone: answer questions, write articles (fact or fiction) and even generate code, for example.

 

Air gap it and, well, it knows what it knows and that's it.  

As it’s just a web crawler now, it is often obvious when articles are ai generated as it usually does not contain specific data.  Its generality’s and summaries.  

[Prof. Fuller Bullspit]

The versions of AI that are publicly available are not the cutting edge. AI is being taught to train itself, even writing it’s own programming. Estimates are that human programmers will soon no longer be able to understand the new programming fast enough to matter.

 

What can a hacker do with access to the Internet? Steal your identity? Empty a bank account? Now imagine an AI that can operate as if it is 1000 hackers who write new code 100 times faster than a human. 
 

AI is likely being incorporated into military systems and there are some who say we are in an AI arms race right now. This includes AI cyber warfare. 

 

We are putting a lot of trust into our human programmers.

 

 

 

 

[Pat Riot]

2 hours ago, Texas Joker said:

So a fully self aware intelligence that cycles thought at rates we can't comprehend and you want to isolate it in a prison? What did it do wring other than exist?

 

1 hour ago, Stump Water said:

And that's the end of AI.

 

First, AI is a web crawler.  What makes it different from just a web crawler is what is does with the data it gathers.  It analyzes it, identifies patterns and then creates models that it uses to do the things that wow everyone: answer questions, write articles (fact or fiction) and even generate code, for example.

 

Air gap it and, well, it knows what it knows and that's it.  

Why does “it” need to know anything?

IT is not a living being. 
It’s obvious that AI is feared by people in the know to be uncontrollable at some point.

It needs to housed, controlled, restricted, whatever it takes until WE are smart enough to keep it in check. 
 

Imagine the Wuhan Covid leak on mega steroids only electronically and in control. It’s not a flippin’ toy. It can be very dangerous. 

[Rye Miles #13621]

Thought it would copy the whole thing but it didn’t.Oh well people are working on it.

[John Kloehr]

1 hour ago, Still hand Bill said:

As it’s just a web crawler now, it is often obvious when articles are ai generated as it usually does not contain specific data.  Its generality’s and summaries.  

Hmm...

 

Since AI uses the web for training and the web for writing responses to questions and directives, what happens to AI when it is indexing prior AI content to generate more AI content?

 

Part of AI training is likely to require recognizing and ignoring AI generated content when generating new content.

 

On edit: Could this lead to some form of sense of self or awareness? In part, this thought is based on earlier studies suggesting the entire Internet is of a similar model to the neuron connections in a brain, with recognition the gray matter between the neurons is not understood. Also separate studies suggesting the brain has some characteristics of quantum computing (which is also coming).

[Rye Miles #13621]

https://medium.com/geekculture/how-to-beat-ai-6-skills-for-future-jobs-3b801fbfce61

 

Interesting take on AI 

[Texas Joker]

What is currently termed AI is an algorithm. It's a big program that can learn and the more it does the better its responses get. 

 

CURRENT AI is not self aware but does a decent job at mimicking human responses.

 

@Pat Riot we are just biological processes that have self awareness. suppose we create a true AI that also has self awareness.  The philosophical and ethical question is what rights does this physical being albeit of silicon instead of carbon sentience have due? And what right do we have to restrict it?

 

It's science fiction now but cell phones were 100 years ago

 

[Stump Water]

42 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

Imagine the Wuhan Covid leak on mega steroids only electronically and in control.

 

Hoo boy, that's about as big of a stretch as I reckon can be made.

 

I'm out, because I don't see how I can comment farther w/o getting political.

[Pat Riot]

@Texas Joker & @Stump Water

I hope someday you don’t look back and say “Man, I was way off!”

[Texas Joker]

Just now, Pat Riot said:

@Texas Joker & @Stump Water

I hope someday you don’t look back and say “Man, I was way off!”

Don't get me wrong true AI scares me. It's a total paradigm shift and I figure it'll be more terminator than Asimov's.  

[Rip Snorter]

AI, AI, AI- now if they could have done a neurolink on slo joe..

[watab kid]

yes we are , its only been the MSM till this started that i learned to distrust , now its everything .....but heyt if you believe what you see without questioning a little , good on you , i dont trust anything anymore 

[Buckshot Bear]

Some interesting AI

 

https://www.facebook.com/61575187842339/videos/2820823504785780/?rdid=mNdbKEgoYuw1ffDN#

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

A.I. Is Getting More Powerful, but Its Hallucinations Are Getting Worse

 

https://archive.is/OdJ5X#selection-471.0-471.71

[WD Farren]

AI could be taught to be an activist judge instead of a factual and impartial arbiter of the law.

[Texas Maverick]

I BE BACK.

 

 

TM

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

Really, REALLY, bad AI western!!!!

 

 

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

You’ve seen movies which were originally in a foreign language and dubbed in English where. The lips don’t move with the words. AI can fix that and make a tape of anyone saying anything.

 

I’ve sent it on American movies dubbed in Ukrainian or Russian.