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The conference this week is on Thursday, 6/25. It is a split day conference. This is the last scheduled conference.

 

Unless another conference is added soon, this is also the "cleanup" conference. GVRs typically happen in the cleanup conference and several of the cases below look like they will get GVRed. There are also some petitions scheduled which do not fit the GVR mold. Also, many petitions are denied at the cleanup conference. Conference orders normally issue the following Monday, orders from a cleanup conference may or may not follow the usual pattern.

 

Thursday is also the next opinion day. An additional opinion day will likely be scheduled (12 remaining including Wolford).

 

A final clue indicating this is the cleanup conference is an announcement the Supreme Court gift shop will close from Friday after the conference to Thursday the following week. Then the normal closure for the holiday and weekend means it will not open again until Monday, July 6.

 

Petitions in conference this week are:

 

Felon In Possession

 

25-935       5/14          US v Mitchell           US asks hold and GVR after Hemani

25-5986     1/9            Richardson v US     May be holding pending Hemani

25-7465                      Bynes v Florida

25-7488                      Torres v US

 

The first two are clear Hemani GVR candidates, the second two are up for their first hearing. Of the last two, Torres (vandalism and ammunition possession where the predicate felonies) might be a candidate for GVR under Rahimi more than Hemani. Bynes is waiting on court requested response, so not sure why it is scheduled at all.

 

Drug Users

 

25-372       1/9                                     Harris v US

24-1248     9/29*, 10/10, 10/17           US v Daniels

24-1249     9/29*, 10/10, 10/17           US v Sam

25-6008    2/20                                 Sanchez v US

25-6216     2/27                                  Nyandoro v US

 

All five are clear 922(g)(3) GVR candidates under Hemani.

 

Young Adults (18-20)

 

24-1185     9/29*, 11/14                       NRA v Glass

24-1329    9/29*, 11/14                       Paris v SAF

25-24        11/14                                  McCoy v ATF

25-132       11/14                                  WVCDL v ATF

25-5713     1/9                                     Picon v US

 

My crystal ball is murky on these... Will they be denied to clear them off the docket? Will they get GVR under Hemani with instruction to test dangerousness of the group? Or even per curium opinions declaring them part of "the people," cases closed?

 

AWB/Magazine Bans

 

25-153                                 Gator’s v Washington

12/5,12, 1/9,16,23, 2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24. 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18

                                                                         

25-198                                Duncan v Bonta

11/21*, 12/5,12, 1/9,16,23, 2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18

                                                                         

25-238                               Viramontes v Cook County

12/5,12, 1/9,16,23, 2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18

                                                                         

25-421                                NAGR v Lamont

1/23*, 2/20 ,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18

                                                                         

25-566                                Grant v Higgins (CT)

2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18

                                                                         

They're all back again...

 

 

Orders might be Monday, 6/29, or sooner, or later. Opinions for unspecified cases expected on conference day, 6/25, and likely at least one other day TBD.

 

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17 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

I wonder if that's why it keeps getting kicked down the road, to tie up other cases?

Would not surprise me for the 9th. Delay before deny is the visible pattern.

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Wolford v Lopez opinion issued. It is a 2A win. Separate discussion thread at:

 

https://forums.sassnet.com/index.php?/topic/403570-wolford-v-lopez-win/

 

The opinion (have not read it yet):

 

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-1046_nmio.pdf

 

Still not sure when the court term will officially end. Did learn today the chief will announce the last session at the close of the second-to-last session. Today, the marshal announced the next session will be on Monday. From these details, Monday will not be the last session.

 

There are 8 remaining opinions to be issued, none are 2A. Today is the last currently scheduled conference, it is not clear if this is the cleanup conference, or if there will be another. Also not clear when orders will issue from it.

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The clerk has added orders from yesterday's conference to the calendar on Monday at 9:30 AM.

 

In other news...

 

Letter filed by the Cheeseman v Platkin plaintiffs informs the 3rd Circuit of Wolford opinion:

 

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/firearmspolicycoalition/pages/6504/attachments/original/1782500538/2026.06.26_117_28(j)_Letter.pdf?1782500538

 

It may be what the 3rd Circuit has been waiting for, guidance on getting the test right. I like how the plaintiffs used Jackson's quote:

 

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Contrary to New Jersey’s argument that “the common-use analysis is part of the Court’s threshold inquiry ... , Wolford makes clear that such considerations “are out of place at Bruen’s first step.

...

New Jersey’s argument effectively poses the question to this Court of whether parties “can smuggle additional limits, drawn from our regulatory tradition into the plain-text stage of the inquiry,” but “[t]he answer is and always has been no.” Id. at *14 n.1 (Barrett, J., concurring);

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As Justice Jackson made plain in her dissent, applying Wolford requires that “at step one, courts must look only to the ‘plain text’ of the Second Amendment.” Wolford, at *26 (Jackson, J., dissenting).

 

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This does put an end to all the qualifiers used by various courts. Common Use. For self defense. Any way to change the outcome to "does not even implicate the 2A" at the threshold test when it otherwise clearly does.

 

I'm sure with a bit of poking around, many more cases will soon have new filings.

 

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Before getting to today's orders (working through it), need to introduce another case from this term.

 

Hunter v US, from the 5th Circuit, is a non-2A criminal case. From SCOTUSblog:

 

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Holding

An agreement not to appeal a sentence is unenforceable when it would result in a miscarriage of justice — meaning, when it would leave in place the kind of egregious error that would bring the judicial system into disrepute.

 

Judgment

Vacated And Remanded, 8-1, in an opinion by Elena Kagan on Jun 18, 2026. Justice Gorsuch wrote a concurring opinion, joined by Justices Sotomayor and Jackson. Justice Kavanaugh wrote a concurring opinion, joined by Justices Alito and Barrett. Barrett wrote a concurring opinion. Justice Thomas wrote a dissenting opinion. 

 

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Also of note here is the liberals and conservatives do not always vote together. This case has a very different mix of concurrences.

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Some rinse and repeat continues, some petitions have resolution (denials and GVRs).

 

Orders from today, Monday, 6/29 from 6/25 conference.

 

 

Felon In Possession

 

Denied:

25-935       5/14      US v Mitchell           US asks hold and GVR after Hemani

25-7488                  Torres v US

 

GVR per Hunter v US:

25-5986     1/9        Richardson v US     May be holding pending Hemani

 

No action:

25-7465                  Bynes v Florida

 

Bynes is still waiting on court requested response, so not sure why it was scheduled at all. Torres denied as most of these cases are. Mitchell wins under Hemani and is done. Richardson gets another chance to plead his case.

 

 

Drug Users

 

Denied:

24-1248     9/29*, 10/10, 10/17           US v Daniels

24-1249     9/29*, 10/10, 10/17           US v Sam

25-6008    2/20                                 Sanchez v US

 

GVR per US v Hemani:

25-372       1/9                                     Harris v US

 

GVR per Hunter v US

25-6218     2/27                                  Nyandoro v US

 

Daniels and Sam had won their cases in the past, the government wanted a do-over. SCOTUS says "no." Daniels and Sam win and are done.

 

Sanchez was a regular user of THC. At the time of his arrest in public while in possession of a firearm, he was also under the influence. So Sanchez loses and is done.

 

Harris and Nyandoro get another chance to plead their cases.

 

 

Young Adults (18-20)

 

No action.

 

 

AWB/Magazine Bans

                                                                         

No action.

 

 

There is still uncertainty if this was the last conference. Additional orders may still come out until the term is officially closed. Additional decisions expected tomorrow, none are 2A cases. I'll check every now and then until the term is officially over.

 

And I have another post right after this one.

 

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New conference today, 6/29. No idea when any orders will issue. This does not show up on the SCOTUSblog calendar. I found it on these dockets while cleaning up and updating my notes.

 

Petitions in conference are:

 

Young Adults (18-20)

 

24-1185     9/29*, 11/14, 6/25                       NRA v Glass

24-1329    9/29*, 11/14, 6/25                       Paris v SAF

25-24        11/14, 6/25                                  McCoy v ATF

25-132       11/14, 6/25                                  WVCDL v ATF

25-5713     1/9, 6/25                                     Picon v US

 

AWB/Magazine Bans

 

25-153                                 Gator’s v Washington

12/5,12, 1/9,16,23, 2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24. 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18,25

                                                                         

25-198                                Duncan v Bonta

11/21*, 12/5,12, 1/9,16,23, 2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18,25

                                                                         

25-238                               Viramontes v Cook County

12/5,12, 1/9,16,23, 2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18,25

                                                                         

25-421                                NAGR v Lamont

1/23*, 2/20 ,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18,25

                                                                         

25-566                                Grant v Higgins (CT)

2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18,25

 

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SCOTUSblog just added orders to the calendar for tomorrow morning, 6/30 @ 9:30 AM.

 

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2 hours ago, John Kloehr said:

SCOTUSblog just added orders to the calendar for tomorrow morning, 6/30 @ 9:30 AM.

 

And now the blog calendar only shows opinions at 10 AM...

 

Per curiums? I'm used to those being in orders (at the end after grants and denials). I'll still check for orders at 9:30. William Kirk has scheduled a live broadcast for 9:30.

 

Can not say what normal is for the end of a term, partly because those who track them are not sure. And still do not have official announcement of the last session in the (probably) normal way. That may happen at the end of the 10 AM session.

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Errata:

 

NPR posted a story stating Alito was retiring. NPR retracted the story within minutes.

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Orders from today, Tuesday, 6/30 from 6/29 conference.

 

Young Adults (18-20)

 

Denied:

24-1185     9/29*, 11/14, 6/25                       NRA v Glass

24-1329    9/29*, 11/14, 6/25                       Paris v SAF

25-24        11/14, 6/25                                  McCoy v ATF

25-132       11/14, 6/25                                  WVCDL v ATF

25-5713     1/9, 6/25                                     Picon v US

 

Thomas would have granted WVCDL v ATF.

 

 

AWB/Magazine Bans

 

Granted:

25-238                               Viramontes v Cook County

12/5,12, 1/9,16,23, 2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18,25

 

25-566                                Grant v Higgins (CT)

2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18,25

 

"The petitions for writs of certiorari are granted as to the question presented by the petition in No. 25-238. The cases are consolidated, and a total of one hour is allotted for oral argument."

 

The question referred to in the order is:

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Whether the Second and Fourteenth Amendments guarantee the right to possess AR-15 platform and similar semiautomatic rifles.

 

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No action:

25-153                                 Gator’s v Washington

12/5,12, 1/9,16,23, 2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24. 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18,25

 

25-198                                Duncan v Bonta

11/21*, 12/5,12, 1/9,16,23, 2/20,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18,25

 

25-421                                NAGR v Lamont

1/23*, 2/20 ,27, 3/6,20,27, 4/2,17,24, 5/1,14,21,28, 6/4,11,18,25

 

These will carry over and presumably GVR after decision on the consolidated granted petitions. The granted petitions are both "AWB" bans. Neither explicitly challenges magazines, both challenged laws do refer to exceeding a ten round magazine limit.

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Since NAGR v Lamont specifically dealt with both AR-15s and over 10-round magazines, they clearly didn't pick it so that they could narrowly define and render an opinion on just one hardware item at a time...I know, baby steps, but even toddlers can get a good head of steam going...SCOTUS, not so much.

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On 6/30/2026 at 4:47 PM, Doug E Turtle said:

Since NAGR v Lamont specifically dealt with both AR-15s and over 10-round magazines, they clearly didn't pick it so that they could narrowly define and render an opinion on just one hardware item at a time...I know, baby steps, but even toddlers can get a good head of steam going...SCOTUS, not so much.

 

I did note the two chosen petitions did not challenge magazines directly. I am hopeful this will not matter.

 

The actual law in Viramontes includes "any semiautomatic rifle with the ability to accept a magazine holding more than ten rounds" plus any one of a list of features. Grant includes "an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one other feature. One of those features is "a fixed magazine with the ability to accept more than ten rounds"

 

The capacity limit might get resolved as a side statement, and the other 3 petitions will get GVR. We will find out in about a year.

 

Since features are such an integral part of all the bans, I am hopeful SCOTUS will guide the lower courts to see no functional difference on any features (magazines, pistol grip, thumbhole stock, folding stock, shroud over barrel, things that flip up...)

 

There is another difference between these two petitions and the 3 petitions explicitly including magazines. Both of the granted petitions are represented by David Thompson of Cooper and Kirk. This firm works closely with the 2nd Amendment Foundation, a lead organizational litigant on both petitions. Certainly has a winning track record.

 

The other 3 petitions are supported by different organizational counsel. The two magazine-only petitions by Erin Murphy (also a very good 2A litigator), and the NAGR petition by John-Paul Singh Deol of the Dhillon Law Group.

 

I do not recognize this last one, a quick google shows the law group's "mediation practice is led by John-Paul S. Deol, a nationally trusted employment and business litigator known for sound judgment" and is "a team of principled, aggressive and tenacious trial lawyers who handle business, intellectual property, free speech, internet & employment disputes." A little digging shows he and his firm were involved in NAGR v Garland (FRTs). NAGR did help get an initial injunction for the pistol brace rule, I'm also not sure who counsel for the NAGR suit was as I did not find that case. The lead case for bump stocks was Mock v Garland which this firm did not take part in.

 

Overall, considering the bigger AW question will be litigated, I'm happy with the attorneys that brought it to this point and confident they can bring it home.

 

 

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As has been stated before, thank you John, for all the research and detail you provide us. 👍

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We’re finally going to have an opportunity to present our case in the main arena!!

 

If there’s any true justice at all, our Constitutionally guaranteed natural right will be more soundly and permanently affirmed and codified!!

 

Prayers outgoing!!!

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Now at the end of the 2025 term, here is where petitions stand.

 

Certiorari Granted

 

Granted 4/20, Not yet scheduled. Briefs due 6/30 and 8/25

25-5343                                                Beaird v US 

The 2A challenges did not get cert, this is now a sentencing enhancement case. I’ll still follow it as it may be along the lines of thought which led to Hunter v US getting cited in a couple GVRs in the drug cases rather than Hemani.

 

Granted 6/30

25-238                                                 Viramontes v Cook County

 

Granted 6/30, Consolidated with Viramontes (above)

25-566                                                  Grant v Higgins (CT)

 

Both litigants share the same counsel (through SAF). The two purely magazine petitions share a different counsel. The NAGR petition concerns both AWs and LCMs but has a different counsel not fully tested at SCOTUS.

 

Petitions

 

Felon In Possession: 23                   9/28:4   Waiting response:18 Hold:1

Protective Order Ban: 1                   Conference 9/28/26

Legal Visa Holder:1                           Filed

Sensitive Places: 2                            Filed, Wolford ties

Gun and Magazine Bans: 4           Hold:3 Waiting response:1

 

Total: 38

 

Felon In Possession

 

Not going to list all 23, no point. Most of these get denied on the first conference. There have been hundreds this year and it has been the most tedious part of posting updates in this thread. I expect many more next year, most of which will fail out of the gate.

 

Between the newly invigorated  rights restoration process (still in public comments stage) and Hemani specifically excluding review of categorical bans on certain populations, the court does not seem to want to tread on this ground.

 

Am going to list a few as they seem to be the kind of spaghetti which does stick to the wall. I would like to mention a certain forum member but can not find the post. He suggested to keep flooding the court with petitions and several of us (including me) were not real keen on the idea as being a productive exercise. But I might be wrong. I’m not saying it is right to blindly throw spaghetti, but if certain bits stick to the wall more than others, throw more of those bits. Here are three such possible bits:

 

Filed, response due 6/26, extension to 7/10

25-1219                                                 US v Hembree

Possible future Hemani GVR

 

11th, Filed, response waived, response requested due 7/27

25-7216    6/4                                      Storey v US

3 prior cocaine dealing felonies, gun charge added under ACCA (Armed Career Criminal Act) enhancement. Enhancement added by judge, not jury as required by the statute.

 

4th, Filed, response waived, response requested due 7/17

25-7465     6/25                                  Bynes v Florida

Felon ban without individualized dangerousness finding, right to 12 member jury (convicted by 6).

 

Protective Order Ban

 

https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/25-1249.html

Conference 9/28/26

25-1249                                                Pestarino v Pestarino

I’m including the link to the docket. A domestic violence case, even a stalking case. Not sure on the face to know which side to believe. But his claims look incoherent, her response looks credible. Makes the “pest” in the name appropriate. And one might consider this petition part of the stalking behavior. He divorced her, she is a Canadian citizen. Is he the victim of an extortion for future income combined with a gambit for US citizenship (as a DV survivior) or is he just an a-hole? I predict denial. But go read filings for yourself.

 

Legal Visa Holder

 

25-7637                                              Rubio-Castillo v US

A recent petition from an illegal immigrant was denied. This petition asks if those who came through the front door are part of “the people.” Also might help to know:

 

 

Castillo was a non-immigrant visa holder who entered the United States lawfully... . He was arrested shortly thereafter in Fort Worth, Texas, after purchasing 37 firearms at a gun show.

 

I do predict denial. I should not on principles for things like being against waiting periods and rationing as they are unconstitutional infringements, but this still kicks up my spidey sense.

 

Sensitive Places

 

Both really the same case (except two different cases). The 4th Circuit made a split ruling, striking down the default property swap (vampire rule) but upholding all other restrictions.

 

4th, Filed, response filed, likely Wolford GVR but not scheduled

25-1206                                               Moore v Kipke

This is the state wanting another bite at the apple after losing on a default property swap. I expect this to get either denial or GVR under Wolford. It just has not gone to conference yet.

 

See:

4th,Filed, extension to respond to 7/29

25-1324                                               Novotny v Moore

This case combines the Kipke plaintiffs (from above) with Novotny plaintiffs challenging a bunch of specific location bans. Parks, restaurants serving alcohol, near protests or demonstrations, mass transit, …

 

The timing on these was just too late to resolve either of them this term.

 

AWB/Magazine Bans

 

25-153                                                 Gator’s v Washington

25-198                                                 Duncan v Bonta

25-421                                                 NAGR v Lamont

Likely hold for GVR when Viramontes is decided

 

25-7652                                              Fisher v US

A new petition, asks if a machine gun is an arm. I think yes. Also think restrictions under the commerce clause ($200 tax stamp) will still hold up. Do question if the ban on civilian ownership of post-1986 guns will hold up. If the commerce clause allows banning anything, then it converts the commerce clause into a general police power. I know I read that somewhere recently, think it was one of the justices in a recent opinion.

 

 

 

I will get back to the Wolford analysis soon in the thread for it. This is the close of the 2025 term.

 

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I was the one who suggested a flood of new petitions might stimulate sooner and more activity by the high court! I’m still not convinced that it wouldn’t work, but your thoughts on the spaghetti theory ARE a possible added benefit!

 

Thinking about it from the “CAKE” perspective or the death by a thousand cuts approach, it might benefit our cause by incrementally establishing those small victories that JK mentioned and it could put the antis and those states who have taken our rights to playing “Whack-A-Mole” trying to confront all of these new petitions!

 

I’d like to add my thanks to John Kloehr to the others here for his coverage and explanation of SCOTUS’ decisions and rulings!

 

 

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Notice that every news organization that posts about the Court taking up Viramontes is using exactly the same, biased and untrue opening sentence about "The sameSupremeCourtthat expanded gun rights..."?

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This is what we have been working toward for 40 years. This is it. We get Viramontes, it is game over for the worst of the 2A infringements. Let's not think of any other outcome, stay positive, stay informed. I am super surprised that they did not do anything with Duncan...it is the oldest of the 2A cases, (IIRC) but it only deals with mags. So maybe it will be dealt with in the text of the Viramontes decision. 

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