Cypress Sun Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 Below is a link to the Webb Space Telescope website. Some interesting articles and very cool pictures for those with an interest in space. Warning - Could be a time-consuming rabbit hole! Images |ESA/Webb
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 34 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: Below is a link to the Webb Space Telescope website. Some interesting articles and very cool pictures for those with an interest in space. Warning - Could be a time-consuming rabbit hole! Images |ESA/Webb Thanks! Great stuff. But, as I was looking through it I was once again struck by how willing we are to accept all of this as True based on the inferences drawn from observations and the manipulation of the data with mathematics, mathematics sometimes created to manipulate the observational data from those marvelous instruments. Taking it on faith that the math and inferences are correct. But mention that you believe that there must have been a Creator to make all this out of nothing, and create order out of chaos, and all of a sudden you "believe in a mythical sky-daddy."
Dogmeat Dad, SASS #48563L Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 Unfortunately, the "Maths" as the Brit's say, are necessary. Due to the vast distances, and the inherent Doppler shift from the expanding universe, the majority of the "Light" we can detect is not in the visible spectrum. The astronomers and astrophysicists utilize the spectral signature of certain elements in sunlight to shift the spectrum back into the visible range to produce the images that we see. Certainly, there is some amount of artistic license, but the scientific process is documented and repeatable, so I for one will accept the images as published and marvel at the beauty of the universe. If you want to check out some of the science behind this, check out Dr. Becky on YouTube. She is an English astrophysicist (Dr. Rebecca Smethurst) with a very informative channel and she is a major fan of JWST. She does a monthly Night Sky News video as well that give us rookie stargazers a list of things to watch for in the sky.
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 39 minutes ago, Dogmeat Dad, SASS #48563L said: Unfortunately, the "Maths" as the Brit's say, are necessary. Due to the vast distances, and the inherent Doppler shift from the expanding universe, the majority of the "Light" we can detect is not in the visible spectrum. The astronomers and astrophysicists utilize the spectral signature of certain elements in sunlight to shift the spectrum back into the visible range to produce the images that we see. Certainly, there is some amount of artistic license, but the scientific process is documented and repeatable, so I for one will accept the images as published and marvel at the beauty of the universe. If you want to check out some of the science behind this, check out Dr. Becky on YouTube. She is an English astrophysicist (Dr. Rebecca Smethurst) with a very informative channel and she is a major fan of JWST. She does a monthly Night Sky News video as well that give us rookie stargazers a list of things to watch for in the sky. I wasn't doubting the accuracy of the inferences from the maths, or the beauty and majesty of what is revealed, just expressing my thought that people who scoff at those who believe in a Creator because they are relying on blind faith in the works of men they have never met talking about things they themselves have never experienced, themselves have a blind faith in the works of men they have never met talking about things they have never experienced. A bit ironic. As the hymn goes, "Great art Thou, O Lord, and marvelous are Thy works, and there is no word which sufficeth to hymn Thy wonders."
Dogmeat Dad, SASS #48563L Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 I have taken flight into the skies, I have sailed the seas, I have starred into the night sky on 4 continents, and I have swum beneath the seas and starred into the abyss. I have witnessed the beauty of Gods creations. Those who choose to not see His hand in all of this will, one day, learn the truth.
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 The colors in those pictures are seldom colors as we would perceive colors. They are representations of different wavelengths so that we can see that there is something besides emptiness.
J-BAR #18287 Posted February 8, 2025 Posted February 8, 2025 Thanks for the link. Breathtaking photos. Either God exists or he doesn't. Both possibilities are remarkable.
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 8, 2025 Posted February 8, 2025 I had the opportunity to visit the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, AZ in 2019. What can seen in the visible spectrum without computerized imagery is staggering. I got to see a collapsing star thousands of light years away and the planet Saturn. It’s humbling.
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