Yul Lose Posted February 6 Posted February 6 This lady passed me at a high rate of speed coming up the hill into the town that I live in. She got to the stop light and instead of stopping before she got to the intersection she stopped right in the middle of the intersection. The cars turning left coming from the east and the cars coming from the north all had to drive around her. When the light turned green she punched it and took off.
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Did she enter the intersection on a "stale yellow?" I've seen it several times, they see a yellow, think they can beat the red, it turns red as they enter, so they stop. First time I saw it, I guess I was 12 or so. In Vista, Hwy.78 where it T'ed into Santa Fe. Lady in her latw 70s or maybe 80s, going north on Santa Fe, light turned red as she entered the intersection, so she stopped. She was leaning foward over the steering wheel and looking almost straight up at the signal.
Blackwater 53393 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Ain’t near as bad as yesterday morning on my way to the foot doctor. I stopped for a light, first in line. The cross traffic cleared the intersection and I could see the light change in their direction. Another driver pulled up and stopped on the cross street as my light turned green. Just as I started through the intersection, the idiot on the cross street lunged out in front of me and turned right. He proceeded on at about half the speed of the surrounding traffic. I just managed to slam on the brakes before we collided in the middle of the intersection. People like that are the cause of most inner city accidents.
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Okay, I'll say it: She was probably on her phone.
Alpo Posted February 7 Posted February 7 I was watching this video this morning. Guy got pulled for running the red light. He told the cop that it was yellow when he started under it and it turned red while he was passing. Cop told him that it was red when he started under it. And they went back and forth like that for a while. Maybe that woman had had a similar experience. And it was yellow when she started under and when it turned red she stopped. Because she was ticketed the last time. Interesting video by the way. The driver told the cop that he was carrying, so the cop had him get out of the truck. Then the cop would take the man's gun, "for everyone's safety". The cop did not take the man's gun. The cop's partner took the gun. The man was wearing it IWB on his right side, and the partner drew it from the holster with her left hand. And as soon as the trigger guard was clear she put her finger in the trigger guard. Want to guess what happened next? That's right. Glock go bang. She shot the driver in his leg. They had good video. The first cop's body cam. The woman's body cam. The dash cam on the cop car. And after shooting the man she continued to have her finger in the trigger guard until the first cop told her to put the gun down. It took about 2 weeks but she got fired.
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted February 7 Posted February 7 22 minutes ago, Alpo said: I was watching this video this morning. Guy got pulled for running the red light. He told the cop that it was yellow when he started under it and it turned red while he was passing. Cop told him that it was red when he started under it. And they went back and forth like that for a while. Maybe that woman had had a similar experience. And it was yellow when she started under and when it turned red she stopped. Because she was ticketed the last time. Interesting video by the way. The driver told the cop that he was carrying, so the cop had him get out of the truck. Then the cop would take the man's gun, "for everyone's safety". The cop did not take the man's gun. The cop's partner took the gun. The man was wearing it IWB on his right side, and the partner drew it from the holster with her left hand. And as soon as the trigger guard was clear she put her finger in the trigger guard. Want to guess what happened next? That's right. Glock go bang. She shot the driver in his leg. They had good video. The first cop's body cam. The woman's body cam. The dash cam on the cop car. And after shooting the man she continued to have her finger in the trigger guard until the first cop told her to put the gun down. It took about 2 weeks but she got fired. Getting fired is the least of her worries. Betting there is a pretty healthy lawsuit in their future. And deserved. Regards Gateway Kid
Cypress Sun Posted February 7 Posted February 7 My understanding is that once a driver completely passes over the stop bar (white line on the road indicating where you should stop for the traffic device) with both front and rear tires, whatever color the traffic signal was at the time of the crossing dictates the severity of the infraction, if any infraction.
Cypress Sun Posted February 7 Posted February 7 28 minutes ago, Alpo said: I was watching this video this morning. Guy got pulled for running the red light. He told the cop that it was yellow when he started under it and it turned red while he was passing. Cop told him that it was red when he started under it. And they went back and forth like that for a while. Maybe that woman had had a similar experience. And it was yellow when she started under and when it turned red she stopped. Because she was ticketed the last time. Interesting video by the way. The driver told the cop that he was carrying, so the cop had him get out of the truck. Then the cop would take the man's gun, "for everyone's safety". The cop did not take the man's gun. The cop's partner took the gun. The man was wearing it IWB on his right side, and the partner drew it from the holster with her left hand. And as soon as the trigger guard was clear she put her finger in the trigger guard. Want to guess what happened next? That's right. Glock go bang. She shot the driver in his leg. They had good video. The first cop's body cam. The woman's body cam. The dash cam on the cop car. And after shooting the man she continued to have her finger in the trigger guard until the first cop told her to put the gun down. It took about 2 weeks but she got fired. I saw that video. The male officer kept his head about him, the female cop was completely clueless and had very poor training, firearms training in particular.
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 7 Posted February 7 19 minutes ago, Alpo said: The driver told the cop that he was carrying, so the cop had him get out of the truck. Then the cop would take the man's gun, "for everyone's safety" I know that several people will be upset at me for saying this, but that's a big barrel of male bovine excrement. It frosts me every time i hear about it. Guy complying with the law, letting the cop know he's armed, docile as a sleeping lamb. If he was going to be a danger to the cop he wouldn't have said anything, or denied that he was armed. From my view it's just an ego boosting power play by cop.
Blackwater 53393 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 I had only one officer ever have me get out of my vehicle after telling him I was armed. He had me step out and put my sidearm on the trunk of the car. He called in my information and found that I was legally carrying. He stopped me because of a taillight and when he got my bonafides confirmed, he let me go. I was two blocks from home!!
watab kid Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Okay, I'll say it: She was probably on her phone. my thought as well , the texting and talking without hands free is illegal here but i see it every day , they run red lights , they stay stopped holding up traffic on the green lights and they swerve all over the place while moving , i guess the fine isnt big enough ,
Alpo Posted February 7 Posted February 7 33 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: I know that several people will be upset at me for saying this, but that's a big barrel of male bovine excrement. It frosts me every time i hear about it. Guy complying with the law, letting the cop know he's armed, docile as a sleeping lamb. If he was going to be a danger to the cop he wouldn't have said anything, or denied that he was armed. From my view it's just an ego boosting power play by cop. No Joe you don't understand. It's for everyone's safety. The cop pulls me over and he should take my gun for everyone's safety. And I should take his gun for everyone's safety. I mean, hell - fair is fair
Cypress Sun Posted February 7 Posted February 7 9 minutes ago, watab kid said: my thought as well , the texting and talking without hands free is illegal here but i see it every day , they run red lights , they stay stopped holding up traffic on the green lights and they swerve all over the place while moving , i guess the fine isnt big enough , They have the same type law in Florida, the cops NEVER enforce it, so I guess you're right...the fine isn't big enough. Not enough of a fine makes the cops look other places that pay heavy fines....like speeding and doing a right turn on red without coming to a complete stop. I've had at least 3 friends get blasted while stopped at red lights by people texting a driving. All three friends vehicles were totaled by the insurance companies (which didn't pay what it took to replace them) and one friend ended up with serious neck/spine/nerve injuries. The injuries resulted in an lawsuit that the lawyers took 1/2 of the judgement for their fee. The offending, texting drivers? A careless driving ticket with a small fine and a few points on their license unless they took a "defensive driving" course, then it was a reduced fine and no points.
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Alpo said: No Joe you don't understand. It's for everyone's safety. The cop pulls me over and he should take my gun for everyone's safety. And I should take his gun for everyone's safety. I mean, hell - fair is fair Hell, he'd likely be trading up! What's fair about that?
Alpo Posted February 7 Posted February 7 This is true. He get a good Smith & Wesson revolver and I get some piece of junk plastic fantastic.
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 7 Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: I saw that video. The male officer kept his head about him, the female cop was completely clueless and had very poor training, firearms training in particular. Well, asking the guy who just got shot if he was OK was kinda dumb. "Am I OK? HELL NO! I just got shot in the leg with my own gun "for everyone's safety! "
watab kid Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said: They have the same type law in Florida, the cops NEVER enforce it, so I guess you're right...the fine isn't big enough. Not enough of a fine makes the cops look other places that pay heavy fines....like speeding and doing a right turn on red without coming to a complete stop. I've had at least 3 friends get blasted while stopped at red lights by people texting a driving. All three friends vehicles were totaled by the insurance companies (which didn't pay what it took to replace them) and one friend ended up with serious neck/spine/nerve injuries. The injuries resulted in an lawsuit that the lawyers took 1/2 of the judgement for their fee. The offending, texting drivers? A careless driving ticket with a small fine and a few points on their license unless they took a "defensive driving" course, then it was a reduced fine and no points. i didnt mention it before but i was hit broadside by a woman that was on her phone , interesting part of that is i was in left lane a metro bus was in the right , i didnt start to move till he did , but he saw her coming from the right and stopped just as i cleared the bus i was hit , he actually pulled over and came to check if i was OK , i was , and his nine on board cameras caught it all and got me full restitution , but had i not been the builder of the metro bus facility expansions here i might not have had access to that , the lady was also OK , but she never got off her phone , was still on it when the cops got there and actually reluctantly stopped her call[s] to deal with the crash , i also had a woman make a left turn on red into my green lighted vehicle at another intersection here , that one didnt cause much damage and it shocked her that it happened - i hope enough to stop her from using the phone but my faith in those things has long gone aside , ive had more than one i saw coming and stopped for
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Blackwater 53393 said: I had only one officer ever have me get out of my vehicle after telling him I was armed. He had me step out and put my sidearm on the trunk of the car. He called in my information and found that I was legally carrying. He stopped me because of a taillight and when he got my bonafides confirmed, he let me go. I was two blocks from home!! Last time I was pulled over, (coincidentally for blowing a yellow light), when the Officer asked if I was armed and I told him I had a .45 on my hip, he just gave me a long look and said, "Just don't shoot me and we'll be fine".
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 16 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said: Probably wasn’t thinking about driving!! A frighteningly large percentage of people behind the wheel don't think about driving. I was taught that when you were driving the most important thing in your life is DRIVING THE VEHICLE!
Pat Riot Posted February 7 Posted February 7 I had a cop tell me I blew a red light on my bike. It was yellow. The officer argued with me and I said “We could compare video if you like” and I pointed out my helmet camera. He told me to have a nice day and away I went. Dang! I gotta proofread. Edited for duh-ness.
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 56 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: A frighteningly large percentage of people behind the wheel don't think about driving. I was taught that when you were driving the most important thing in you life is DRIVING THE VEHICLE! As a truck driver, during training, we were reminded that WE were professionals, "four wheelers" are amateurs. I rarely saw anything to counter that.
Dusty Devil Dale Posted February 7 Posted February 7 You don't have to be smart to get a driver's license, or to make a vehicle go down the road. Today with all of the cell phones, dash computer screens, widgets added to cars to distract drivers and thoroughly dumbed-down or substance-using population, I've learned to constantly expect the unexpected. Last year a Sheriff's deputy came around a mountain switchback on the wrong side of the center line, and ran me off the road into the brush. She at least stopped and came back. She was looking at her laptop while trying to drive. Earlier this week I had a school bus pass me at high speed (probably 50 mph), right through a signed 25mph school zone, with small kids all over the sidewalks and crosswalks. I called the school district and reported the bus number. You cannot ever let down your guard, these days, AND I wouldnt drive nowadays without a dash cam.
Sedalia Dave Posted February 7 Posted February 7 4 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Well, asking the guy who just got shot if he was OK was kinda dumb. "Am I OK? HELL NO! I just got shot in the leg with my own gun "for everyone's safety! " Now he'll be a multimillionaire "For Everyone's Safety"
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