largo casey #19191 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Has anyone here had Stem Cell done to any of their joints.? how did it work out for ya? Largo Quote
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted January 30 Posted January 30 I was in the experiment trial run of this program in Michigan. I had my right knee done . When I started the program I could hardly walk on my right leg. I was seriously considering knee replacement. They did 6 injections in my knee . It worked 100% for me . My right knee is still good years latter . I would highly recommend it . Before I opted to go under the knife . Rooster 3 Quote
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 My wife tried it for a knee or hip-I forget which. 100% FAILURE!! 1 3 Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 I'm thinking about it. My knees are shot. the left more than the right. Last time I was at the Doc, she gave me a steroid shot in the left. Felt great for about a week, then wore off. I know a gal at the gym who had stem cell done and it fixed her's completely. 1 Quote
Rip Snorter Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Bad knees from sports as well - if you have a good primary care Doc, talk to him / her first. 1 Quote
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Stem Cell treatment is AMAZING. I have multiple stories of successful treatments (my attorney, my billing supervisor, etc.) - BUT... If you are receiving Stem Cell treatment within the United States - ensure that you are ACTUALLY receiving stem cells. Because of FDA regulations; most Stem Cell treatments administered in the US are NOT actually naturally occurring stem cells - they are lab grown variations or approved "alternatives". These have a much lower level of efficacy and positive results. Our team actually travels to Mexico for these treatments as the cost is much less and due to the (outdated United States) political climate around stem cells/ abortion harvesting; the use of actual stem cells is much more likely. 1 Quote
largo casey #19191 Posted March 2 Author Posted March 2 Got the jab today.Did both knees & my right hand.Just have to wait know & see how it goes.Cancelled knee surgery this week to get it done.Hoping for the best. 1 Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 What about insurance coverage?? I’ve had stem cell treatments for the wound on my foot on several occasions. The umbilical cells worked the best, especially after the last surgery that corrected some structural issues/damage. My bad knee is on the leg with the good foot. I have had enough surgery in the last several years, (eight procedures) to last me three lifetimes! If it would fix my knee enough to keep me off the operating table for a few years and if my insurance would cover it, I would definitely give it a try! 2 Quote
largo casey #19191 Posted March 2 Author Posted March 2 No Insuranse or VA.Had to pay out of pocket.Was only suppose to get 2 but had enough to do a 3rd.I believe it was Umbilicle.Probably going to take a little time before noticing any change. Largo 1 Quote
watab kid Posted March 2 Posted March 2 On 1/29/2025 at 10:36 PM, Creeker, SASS #43022 said: Stem Cell treatment is AMAZING. I have multiple stories of successful treatments (my attorney, my billing supervisor, etc.) - BUT... If you are receiving Stem Cell treatment within the United States - ensure that you are ACTUALLY receiving stem cells. Because of FDA regulations; most Stem Cell treatments administered in the US are NOT actually naturally occurring stem cells - they are lab grown variations or approved "alternatives". These have a much lower level of efficacy and positive results. Our team actually travels to Mexico for these treatments as the cost is much less and due to the (outdated United States) political climate around stem cells/ abortion harvesting; the use of actual stem cells is much more likely. well that makes me trust our FDA a lot less - how is their regulation good for americans if they are part of the swamp ? Quote
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 (edited) 44 minutes ago, watab kid said: well that makes me trust our FDA a lot less - how is their regulation good for americans if they are part of the swamp ? The issue within the US is not the FDA per se. It is simply politics. Laws, guidelines and policies are politically driven; when Stem Cells first came upon the scene - the "best" way to harvest them was via aborted fetal tissue. So laws, policies and guidelines were created within that mindset that forbade the harvesting and use of stem cells - fast forward 30 years and the same requirements for obtaining stem cells no longer are accurate; but the laws, policies and guidelines still exist and place substantial roadblocks. We (the US) have attempted to go around these roadblocks with lab grown cells and chemical alternatives; but sadly they lack the efficacy of naturally occurring cells. The trip to Rosarita (Tijuana) is easy, uneventful and less than 10% of the cost of like procedures within the US. I have seen the results first hand and am a HUGE believer in the use of stem cells. Edited March 2 by Creeker, SASS #43022 Quote
watab kid Posted March 2 Posted March 2 5 hours ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said: The issue within the US is not the FDA per se. It is simply politics. Laws, guidelines and policies are politically driven; when Stem Cells first came upon the scene - the "best" way to harvest them was via aborted fetal tissue. So laws, policies and guidelines were created within that mindset that forbade the harvesting and use of stem cells - fast forward 30 years and the same requirements for obtaining stem cells no longer are accurate; but the laws, policies and guidelines still exist and place substantial roadblocks. We (the US) have attempted to go around these roadblocks with lab grown cells and chemical alternatives; but sadly they lack the efficacy of naturally occurring cells. The trip to Rosarita (Tijuana) is easy, uneventful and less than 10% of the cost of like procedures within the US. I have seen the results first hand and am a HUGE believer in the use of stem cells. exactly my point - the swamp , its been so forever - i will pass on the treatment if you have to abort a baby to get my treatment --just for the record , i guess we differ in this , but please know im wishing the best for you , my feeling is we are killing too many future americans by our abortion practices while other countries are breeding quickly , i would hope and pray that modern medicine finds alternatives to aborting our youth , but im old and old fashioned , my mothers side had seven , my wifes mothers side had 15 and her fathers side had 15 , only my fathers scotts side had two so i guess our average is up overall Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 5 hours ago, watab kid said: exactly my point - the swamp , its been so forever - i will pass on the treatment if you have to abort a baby to get my treatment --just for the record , i guess we differ in this , but please know im wishing the best for you , I remember discussions about this during the Bush 43 years. It was determined that the best stem cells came from the umbilical from a normally delivered baby. But the Usual Suspects refused to let facts stop their rhetoric, as they always do. 1 Quote
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 7 hours ago, watab kid said: i will pass on the treatment if you have to abort a baby to get my treatment --just for the record , i guess we differ in this , but please know im wishing the best for you I believe you misread my reply. It is not necessary (nor was it ever) to abort a child to harvest stem cells - but it was a method used to do so. Mind you - the children were never being aborted for that purpose. Much like organ donation after a car accident, at least "some" good was coming out of a bad situation that was going to happen anyways. But immaterial to all that - your prayers that modern medicine find other ways are accurate - those ways exist and are being used, BUT because abortion was a source years ago - the laws made THEN that tied stem cells harvesting and treatments to abortion are still in place and continue to impede stem cell research and treatments. Abortion is no longer a common source for harvesting - but Americans have limited access because the laws enacted then still hamstring stem cell use. 1 1 Quote
watab kid Posted March 2 Posted March 2 4 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: I remember discussions about this during the Bush 43 years. It was determined that the best stem cells came from the umbilical from a normally delivered baby. But the Usual Suspects refused to let facts stop their rhetoric, as they always do. ok , that i have no issue with , Quote
watab kid Posted March 2 Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said: I believe you misread my reply. It is not necessary (nor was it ever) to abort a child to harvest stem cells - but it was a method used to do so. Mind you - the children were never being aborted for that purpose. Much like organ donation after a car accident, at least "some" good was coming out of a bad situation that was going to happen anyways. But immaterial to all that - your prayers that modern medicine find other ways are accurate - those ways exist and are being used, BUT because abortion was a source years ago - the laws made THEN that tied stem cells harvesting and treatments to abortion are still in place and continue to impede stem cell research and treatments. Abortion is no longer a common source for harvesting - but Americans have limited access because the laws enacted then still hamstring stem cell use. ok , im getting a better understanding , im curious why the laws have not been modified once they understood what they had done but it is the swamp , Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 4 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: But the Usual Suspects refused to let facts stop their rhetoric, as they always do. 2 hours ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said: BUT because abortion was a source years ago - the laws made THEN that tied stem cells harvesting and treatments to abortion are still in place and continue to impede stem cell research and treatments. Abortion is no longer a common source for harvesting - but Americans have limited access because the laws enacted then still hamstring stem cell use. 28 minutes ago, watab kid said: im curious why the laws have not been modified once they understood what they had done but it is the swamp , You're right, it's the swamp. The thing is that stem cell treatments ARE legal. It has nothing to do with Healthcare, it doesn't really have anything to do with abortion, but the two have been linked so that any widespread discussion of it will immediately be decried AS an abortion issue. 1 Quote
watab kid Posted March 3 Posted March 3 6 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: You're right, it's the swamp. The thing is that stem cell treatments ARE legal. It has nothing to do with Healthcare, it doesn't really have anything to do with abortion, but the two have been linked so that any widespread discussion of it will immediately be decried AS an abortion issue. that makes perfect sense , i learned from this one thanks 1 Quote
largo casey #19191 Posted March 3 Author Posted March 3 From what I understand when a "WOMAN" gives birth they can donate the umbilicle cord or have it frozen for their own use.The place that did mine said that after testing they only use 2-3% of the cords. Largo Quote
Chicken Rustler, SASS #26680 Posted March 3 Posted March 3 12 hours ago, watab kid said: that makes perfect sense , i learned from this one thanks Thanks, I need more role models like you. Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted March 3 Posted March 3 16 hours ago, largo casey #19191 said: From what I understand when a "WOMAN" gives birth they can donate the umbilicle cord or have it frozen for their own use.The place that did mine said that after testing they only use 2-3% of the cords. Largo They can retrieve stem cells from umbilical cord or placenta for use in various treatments. The ones taken from umbilical cord are usually the most effective. My part of the last stem cell transplant was several thousand dollars after my insurance paid what they’d cover. I’ll be paying on it for at least a couple of years! Quote
largo casey #19191 Posted March 3 Author Posted March 3 Yes.I had to pay it all.I heard it wasn't covered so I didn't check into it.They did come to the house to do it.Which was nice.I don't know exactly how many people.A bunch The nurse came in & they flew the Stem cells in each day. Largo Quote
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