Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 I'd just like to give a shout out to one Sarah Hennessey at Cimarron Firearms. I have a couple of their pistols with the black powder frame that uses a screw in the front of the frame to secure the cylinder pin. The screws in those guns are a small screw requiring a specific screwdriver to keep tightened during an extended range session. When new, the guns also come with a second screw with a larger, knurled head that can be hand tightened, but since I had got my guns used, they didn't have them. I wanted them, but the usual places, (Numrich, Brownells, Midway) don't have even a listing for them. So I contacted Cimarron directly. Sarah responded and told me that they stocked them and that I could order them through her. I did so, but when they showed up, they were the smaller screws that I already have. I emailed her again explaining the problem. She promptly shipped two of the correct screws at no further charge, telling me to just keep the others. 10 2 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 27 Posted January 27 That’s good to hear. I haven’t done business with them, but it’s always good to hear about good customer service from good companies. 2 Quote
Horace Patootie, SASS #35798 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 I've bought 3 pistols from them in the last year or so. No complaints here. Horace Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Never had to use their service all my guns are Taylor's (except for my Colts) and Taylor's is okay but they messed up service on a Comanchero I bought from them a few years ago. 1 Quote
Chief Rick Posted January 27 Posted January 27 I won't buy direct from Cimarron again. And that's all I'm going to say. Quote
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) SABRE, If the screw that retains the Cylinder Base Pin is in direct contact with the Base Pin, it is NOT seated fully in its bore and will NOT stay tight without LocTight. With EITHER screw, dress down the end of the screw lightly until it seats fully and the Base Pin will still turn. You might still consider a tiny drop of BLUE LocTight for a little "insurance." Edited January 27 by Colorado Coffinmaker Quote
Alpo Posted January 27 Posted January 27 If you loctight that screw in it makes it real damn hard to remove the cylinder. Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) 22 hours ago, Horace Patootie, SASS #35798 said: I've bought 3 pistols from them in the last year or so. No complaints here. Horace I love that place. I ordered a Uberti First Model American in .44 Special, nickel plated with a 8 inch barrel andwalnut grips. I paid cash up front. Took nearly a year and someone called me about weekly to keep me in the loop. I finally settled for one in .45LC because they couldn't get one in .44, It came with checkered walnut grips at no additional cost. I checked and the new cost was nearly $300.00 more than I paid. I asked about it and was told that I paid for the gun at the original price and that was I got it for. The grips were free because I had waited so long. I called them back a week or so later to order another one just like it and they said they weren't importing any more plated or with 8" barrels. There were only a few like it brought in. Oh, well. Edited January 28 by Forty Rod SASS 3935 Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: SABRE, If the screw that retains the Cylinder Base Pin is in direct contact with the Base Pin, it is NOT seated fully in its bore and will NOT stay tight without LocTight. With EITHER screw, dress down the end of the screw lightly until it seats fully and the Base Pin will still turn. You might still consider a tiny drop of BLUE LocTight for a little "insurance." I haven't worked on it yet, but after a 50 round range session, the screw was a bit loose, but not to a point that it would fall out, I just want the screw with the bigger head so that I can occasionally snug it up. I'll look into dressing it though. Thanks for that. 2 hours ago, Alpo said: If you loctight that screw in it makes it real damn hard to remove the cylinder. My thought exactly. After shooting my guns, I clean them, which pretty much requires removal of the cylinder pin and the cylinder itself. Loctite would make that more difficult than I would like, though I HAVE considered a drop of clear nail polish to hold it in. That holds a screw in place, but is easy enough to remove when needed. Since I got the screws, I'll try them first. Edited January 28 by Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Quote
Alpo Posted January 28 Posted January 28 You said, after a 50 round range session the screw was a little loose. Simple solution is every time you reload it just reach up and grab that screw tighten it a little. I have a similar problem with the screw on top of my third model Russian. And that's my solution. Shoot a cylinder or two, then snug the screw back down. Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Pat Riot said: Uh, Pards, we need pictures… Okay. Look at the screw right under the barrel on the front of the frame. Circled in red. Instead of the spring loaded pin we're used to, it has a screw that holds the cylinder pin. That's what makes it a Black Powder Frame. The standard screw is smaller than the one shown, and the head sits pretty much flush with the frame. The bottom picture shows the standard screw. Of course, being an SAA screw, you don't want to use a regular screwdriver on it. so unless you want to carry a Gun screwdriver, hollow ground, you can't tighten that screw. The larger, knurled head screw shown here is what I now have, so that I can tighten that screw by hand. 1 Quote
Eyesa Horg Posted January 28 Posted January 28 13 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: I haven't worked on it yet, but after a 50 round range session, the screw was a bit loose, but not to a point that it would fall out, I just want the screw with the bigger head so that I can occasionally snug it up. I'll look into dressing it though. Thanks for that. My thought exactly. After shooting my guns, I clean them, which pretty much requires removal of the cylinder pin and the cylinder itself. Loctite would make that more difficult than I would like, though I HAVE considered a drop of clear nail polish to hold it in. That holds a screw in place, but is easy enough to remove when needed. Since I got the screws, I'll try them first. Blue or purple Loctite will still unscrew easily. Just replace it occasionally. You're only trying to stop loosening by vibration. I use a dab of blue on my Marlin carrier screw and have never had any issues removing the screw. 1 1 Quote
G W Wade Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Just idle thoughts from an idle fellow who knows nothing about Colts. If a common thread, could you get a short allen head screw to set proper depth then put original screw to hold it in place.? GW Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 7 minutes ago, G W Wade said: Just idle thoughts from an idle fellow who knows nothing about Colts. If a common thread, could you get a short allen head screw to set proper depth then put original screw to hold it in place.? GW I suppose that you could. You could even cut down two of the factory screws to do the same. Quote
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