Blackwater 53393 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Should’ve just smacked him flat on his backside and put a foot on his chest until the police arrived! 3 Quote
Dapper Dave Posted January 17 Posted January 17 "You can't touch me", well after he's been "touched"...another great mind wasted right here, just about to find the cure for cancer. 1 1 Quote
watab kid Posted January 18 Posted January 18 yup , a mind that is the product of todays thinking that crimes cannot be punished , one day this one will try to hold up the wrong guy and get the last surprise of his short criminal career 2 1 Quote
Alpo Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I didn't take that as the shoplifter was one of those that thinks that crimes cannot be punished. To me it appeared that the shoplifter believed that the guy that stopped him was a store employee. And as a general rule, Nationwide, store employees cannot touch shoplifters. This is a corporate rule, because the corporations are afraid of being sued by the shoplifter. I know that Walmart employees are not allowed to grab a shoplifter. 'Cause I have had Walmart employees tell me that. They have to watch the shoplifter walk away with a merchandise. If they try to stop him they can get fired. 2 2 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 Looks to me like a small family owned market. Or part of a small local chain, maybe half a dozen stores in one or two counties. Different rules. Really, it shouldn't make a difference. That freelance Socialist got a not so free lesson in capitalism. I always laugh at this kind of thing, the smug punk thinking they can do whatever they want without consequences. Even better are the little thugs who have their friends film them as they attack someone, trying to beat them down, the friends laughing and cheering them on, only for the tough guy to start screaming like a little girl and his friends shouting "HEY, MAN! THAT'S ENOUGH!! THERE'S NO REASON TO GET ROUGH!!!!" when the intended victim turns the tables and starts beating the snot out of the attacker. 4 Quote
ORNERY OAF Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Dude said "you been touched"...LOL!! Now that is funny 2 1 Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) Don't touch him. Bust him with whatever you can grab off a shelf. For instance, can you imagine the damage a 32 ounce glass bottle of maple syrup can do. "Honest officer, he tripped and the syrup just fell off the shelf and brained him." Edited January 18 by Forty Rod SASS 3935 2 Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) Years ago, I ran a small general repair and radiator shop for one of my racing partners. We were located in a rough part of town that was often referred to as “Dodge City” by the locals. It was summer and hot as blazes, the overhead doors were open, and I was at the back of the shop, charging the A/C on a car that I had replaced a compressor on. My help was out in front of the shop replacing a radiator when some local thug walked into the shop and grabbed the cash box! Wil, my helper, shouted at the guy as he came through the door and I headed to the front of the shop with a 12oz freon can in my hand. We were both armed, but there were people in several places along the street, so I threw the can of freon at the culprit and hit him square in the back of the head. He hit the pavement, face down, just shy of the street, out cold. Wil was 6’ 7” tall 260 lbs and ex-Air Force. He walked out and picked up the cash box, stood there for a moment, and then hauled back and and drove his boot into the guy’s ribs! The whole street broke out cheering!! We left the thief laying where he fell and went back to work! He finally got up and stumbled off down the street to the jeers and cursing of folks along the block. Nobody tried to rob us again, EVER!! Edited January 18 by Blackwater 53393 5 2 Quote
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 10 hours ago, Alpo said: I didn't take that as the shoplifter was one of those that thinks that crimes cannot be punished. To me it appeared that the shoplifter believed that the guy that stopped him was a store employee. And as a general rule, Nationwide, store employees cannot touch shoplifters. This is a corporate rule, because the corporations are afraid of being sued by the shoplifter. I know that Walmart employees are not allowed to grab a shoplifter. 'Cause I have had Walmart employees tell me that. They have to watch the shoplifter walk away with a merchandise. If they try to stop him they can get fired. Doesn't always work that way. Thieves at my son's store keep meet the little "Loss Prevention Officer" the manager hired. I've seen video of him holding down people quite a bit larger than he, but I guess he's had some training. Oh, and his store prosecutes and gives out trespass notices. Losses have been going down steadily since last fall when the new manager took over. Funny how that works. 3 2 Quote
watab kid Posted January 19 Posted January 19 bottom line is "YES I CAN TOUCH YOU" if i ignore the same rules f society that you do , and if i was a bad as the worst of you you will be dead where you stand , noyt saying thats the person i am , but please dont assume im any different than you when you approach me - you might get a surprise afgter all there are a lot of you around - wouldnt want to meet yourself in an ally would you ? 1 2 Quote
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 .... kinda reminds me of the Indian guys that had a similar situation. and used a cane/stick on a shoplifter ..... 2 Quote
John Kloehr Posted January 19 Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: .... kinda reminds me of the Indian guys that had a similar situation. and used a cane/stick on a shoplifter ..... https://www.ktvu.com/news/no-charges-for-stockton-7-eleven-workers-in-viral-beatdown-of-alleged-robber 4 Quote
watab kid Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/18/2025 at 1:45 PM, Alpo said: I didn't take that as the shoplifter was one of those that thinks that crimes cannot be punished. To me it appeared that the shoplifter believed that the guy that stopped him was a store employee. And as a general rule, Nationwide, store employees cannot touch shoplifters. This is a corporate rule, because the corporations are afraid of being sued by the shoplifter. I know that Walmart employees are not allowed to grab a shoplifter. 'Cause I have had Walmart employees tell me that. They have to watch the shoplifter walk away with a merchandise. If they try to stop him they can get fired. ah , i didnt get that nuance , he wasnt an employee - so it was an applicable rule then ? fooled again i guess , would prove making assumptions on the run is not a good choice - as was breaking the law in the first place ............. Quote
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 23 hours ago, John Kloehr said: https://www.ktvu.com/news/no-charges-for-stockton-7-eleven-workers-in-viral-beatdown-of-alleged-robber .... yep, ...that's it ....... 🙃 Quote
Alpo Posted January 20 Posted January 20 According to the link, there were no charges. The police did not charge the store employees with assault. But I bet they got fired. Because that is 7-Eleven corporate policy. "Let them have it. That is why we have insurance." If you resist a robbery, 7-Eleven will fire your butt. Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 21 Author Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Whatever happened to citizens arrest? 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted January 21 Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Funny, but best to do some reading before trying a citizens arrest. It is not for minor and petty things. Unless the crime meets certain standards (varies by state), the arresting citizen may end up facing charges for the attempt. 2 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 21 Author Posted January 21 51 minutes ago, John Kloehr said: Funny, but best to do some reading before trying a citizens arrest. It is not for minor and petty things. Unless the crime meets certain standards (varies by state), the arresting citizen may end up facing charges for the attempt. About it in California: https://www.egattorneys.com/citizens-arrest-penal-code-837 Considering the violence LEOs face when making an arrest, I think trying to make a citizens arrest would ve rather foolhardy, unless it's in your home and you have an intruder on the floor at gunpoint. Quote
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