Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Depends on which part we get. A lot of it would be like adding another California, Oregon, Washington, New York, etc. Now if they want to trade I'd go for that if carefully done. Might end up with the 48 star colors I was born under. 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 I think it will look like this. The Flag of Greenland 2 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 said: Don't forget us ....... Impossible! Never! Quote
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Then would we have a sixty star flag? And teach them how to spell? 1 2 Quote
watab kid Posted January 16 Posted January 16 im thinking greenland first then canada ..................but not really , Quote
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 I don’t see any reason for Greenland or Canada. 1 Quote
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 4 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: The whole thing is ridiculous. When farce becomes reality in enough people’s minds… I can’t laugh any more. 2 Quote
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) Just thinking out loud: Perhaps not as ridiculous as it sounds on first hearing it. Many of our smart, educated, professional young men and women have left for the USA for better careers and lifestyle. The children of four families, in my circle, have taken this step, settling in a number of states and are doing very well. Three of their children were educated in the USA, two with full ride scholarships. The others were recruited by the parent companies they were working for and transferred to the US. They have married in the US, are raising families and all are doing well. In one instance, the parents are considering moving to the US to be closer to their son, daughter and grand-children all living in the US. Alberta and Saskatchewan would likely be among the first to avail themselves of the Provisions of The Clarity Act, as handed down by the Supreme Court of Canada, S.C. 2000, C.26 A quick referendum and a 51% vote in favour would trigger the process. Many of their ties, financial and family, tend to run North/South rather than East/West. An error made is thinking the entire country would become the 51st state. It's too large. Alberta's population alone is around 4.8 million, while Saskatchewan's is about 1.2 million They and Ontario are the largest wealth producers. Here is the Flag of Alberta: It could be kept without change IMHO. Edited January 16 by Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 1 3 Quote
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 15 hours ago, Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 said: Don't forget us ....... ...... state # 52 ? 🙃 Quote
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Well, when you consider the distance between Hawaii, Guam and the US mainland, it's not that much of a strrreeetttccchhh! 1 1 2 Quote
John Kloehr Posted January 16 Posted January 16 I'm not against the idea. And it may just have been as simple as Trump letting Trudeau know his input carried little weight; maybe as much as any state, and that the input would be more relevant if coming from the leader of a state. Trump has a New York view of subtlety. There is one thing I think needs to be settled here before adding another state. Hawaii judges seem to be putting forth an opinion that the Constitution can be interpreted based on the understanding at the time of statehood. I would like to see clarity that the Bill of Rights is interpreted as it was understood at the founding, the 14th is interpreted as to the understanding when it was passed, and all states are bound to those dates irrespective of the date an area actually gained statehood. I did take a look at exchange rates, and USD vs CDN has been reasonable stable for a very long time. At the highest level of comparison, the two economies have maintained parity in value if not in scale. The big remaining question is if most Canadians would really want US statehood. 1 Quote
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Let's be resonable - Canada as a whole is too large to become a US state. 1 Quote
Oak Ridge Regulator Posted January 16 Posted January 16 When politicians want to hide something their doing wrong they make up something REALLY DUMB and the American media runs with it and MOST Americans suck it right up and it becomes front page news for weeks 3 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted January 16 Posted January 16 40 minutes ago, Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L said: Let's be resonable - Canada as a whole is too large to become a US state. By land area, Canada is almost 2% bigger. By population, Canada is about 10% of the US total, roughly between California and Texas. So two senators and (by eyeball) 45 representatives to congress. Going by US norms, no idea how the Democrat vs Republican split would be 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Could you imagine the Snowbird phenomena if Canada was included (and very much Welcome, IMHO) into the United States? I’ll bet some wouldn’t think this is ridiculous if this was brought up a year or so ago. 3 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) The Prime Minister of Greenland was interviewed on Fox tonight and he said there’s no way they’ll join the USA. They want to be a free state. He said they’ll always be part of NATO and strong ally of the USA. We have a military base there. There’s only 56,800 people there. Edited January 17 by Rye Miles #13621 3 Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 As far as I'm concerned we can get rid of the CHOW (California, Hawaii, Oregon and Washington) states altogether. I was born in one of them, lived in three of them, and owned property in two, so I can make that comment without prejudice. Quote
Buckshot Bear Posted January 17 Posted January 17 23 hours ago, Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 said: Don't forget us ....... I'm down for that! 2 Quote
watab kid Posted January 17 Posted January 17 there was a time once long ago back in 1959 that two new states were added , my wife was born in one just after on an american base that had been bombed 15 years earlier , and the other had been our possession for a long time , im not suggesting this is a great idea - al lot would depend on the people living there , they need to want it first , i think we are a long way from that , but we shall see , Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Our country is called “The United States of America” for a reason. This isn’t “The Untied States”. This isn’t the “The United if you agree with me States”. The United States is a melting pot, not a mixing pot. The differences of the people in this country are what our forefathers envisioned. If everyone agreed on everything all the time we wouldn’t have the dynamic country that we have today. I think the addition of others to create more states would be fantastic. It would be a healthy shot in the arm to the body of the United States. 1 Quote
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 The territories want to remain territories. No reason to expect anything different. 1 Quote
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Pard in Saskatchewan called me last night and chastised me for neglecting to post their flag. OK Ron, here it is! 2 2 Quote
Trailrider #896 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 The interesting thing is the TV ad I've seen advertising Onterio. Do you think they are trying to tell us something about their public opinion of a relationship with the United States? As far as Greenland is concerned, the main reason for U.S. to have a firm connection is the ability to project military power in the North Atlantic and the Arctic. With the "northwest passage" becoming more and more a commercial and military reality, We need to be able to control access more than we now do. We currently have assets up there with the cooperation of Denmark. OTOH, the citizens of Greenland are apparently not treated all that well by Denmark. Also, there a lot of natural resources there that we could benefit by having easier access. The future is ahead. My own personal "crystal ball" is black, heavy and has three finger holes (okay, two and the thumbhole) and I can't lift it anymore anyway! Quote
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Ontario is one of the provinces that would add to the economic growth and be an asset. One draw back in any possible amalgamation is the social programs Canadians have invested in and rely on. For example, we don't have your 401K (Which I know zero about) but we do have the federally administered Old Age Suppuration (OAS) and the Canada Pension Plan (CPP) in addition to whatever Retirement plans our employers may have had. We also have a personal, voluntary, Registered Retirement Saving Plans (RRSPs) and Tax Free Saving Accounts (TFSAs) with set amounts we can contribute to annually. 2 Quote
Texas Maverick Posted January 17 Posted January 17 On 1/16/2025 at 3:05 PM, Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L said: Let's be resonable - Canada as a whole is too large to become a US state. Not much bigger than Texas. LOL TM 2 Quote
Texas Maverick Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I think we add Mexico as the 51st state then all the illegals would be legal homeless and we could quit paying them all the benefits they are getting now. Most would then go back to Mexico. TM 2 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 17 Posted January 17 On 1/16/2025 at 1:31 PM, Oak Ridge Regulator said: When politicians want to hide something their doing wrong they make up something REALLY DUMB and the American media runs with it and MOST Americans suck it right up and it becomes front page news for weeks I think Trump throws out wild ideas just to get Big Corporate Press barking. Sort of like tossing a piece of ice into duck pond. Although in his first term I think he did it a couple of times to get the Press barking while he did something necessary but would be unpopular with a certain segment of society that is prone to riot when they don't like something. 4 Quote
Rip Snorter Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Look at what China and Russia are trying to do in the Artic. Look at rare elements and energy. Also consider that the "Corporate Press" is irrelevant to most Americans. 1 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 17 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Rip Snorter said: Look at what China and Russia are trying to do in the Artic. Look at rare elements and energy. Also consider that the "Corporate Press" is irrelevant to most Americans. To most thinking Americans. The pontifications and biases of Big Corporate Press ( BCO) drive much of what happens both socially and politically. If it hadn't been for BCP pushing the "hands up, don't shoot" Bug Lie the BLM scam would have been stillborn. Same for "common sense gun control." If BCP stuck to facts and reported the whole story including defensive gun uses the anti-civil rights advocates would have less traction. Or look at the editing of things Trump said. His "good people on both sides" comment which BCP still fails to quote, "I'm not talking about white supremacists I'm not talking about the Neo-nazis and white supremacists because they should be condemned totally." BCP might be irrelevant, but is hugely important. 1 Quote
Rip Snorter Posted January 17 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: BCP might be irrelevant, but is hugely important. In their dreams, and the dreams of the Left. Wait till you see the Press Room. 1 Quote
Tom Bullweed Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I was reading a book on US Grant today and learned that Santa Domingo (now called the Dominican Republic) wanted to be come a US territory and then a state in 1870. Grant wanted it. The Senate said no. Quote
Calamity Kris Posted January 18 Posted January 18 2 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: I think Trump throws out wild ideas just to get Big Corporate Press barking. Sort of like tossing a piece of ice into duck pond. Although in his first term I think he did it a couple of times to get the Press barking while he did something necessary but would be unpopular with a certain segment of society that is prone to riot when they don't like something. I think there may be another facet to this as well. The art of distraction. He makes comments like annexing Greenland or Canada to get the MSM all spooled up and going haywire looking for "the scoop". In the mean time, he's quietly taking care of business that he didn't want the MSM, or anyone else for that matter, meddling in. A way to get things accomplished. 6 2 Quote
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