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I see them at Palmetto for a hair under $700 for the .357 rifle. I don't HAVE to replace my Marlin loaner YET, but it would behoove me to start thinking about it. Anyone have one, and what do you think of them?

Thank you.  

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 Not a good choice for SASS

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Thank you, but could you tell me why? I am still very, very new at this thing. 

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 From what I have read, they are Rossi 1892 rifles with another name. There are many, including me, that use Rossi 92’s and are perfectly happy with them. There are no super go fast parts for them and they can use some polishing of internal parts to get them to run smoother.. most any new gun you buy will need the internals polished before they run smoothly. 
If you think you will want to be a speedy shooter and win all the buckles, stay away from them. If you mostly want to participate and have a great time the Heritage/Rossi will work fine. 
 

Sam Sackett 

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Buy the Ruger Marlin, put the $50 Shotgun Boogie spring kit in it and shoot it. I just did the same thing and it feels and shoots unbelievably great.

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no , didnt realize they made one , 

 

oops , missed a bit of sams post - i have a rossie 92 , it worked great when i used it and still works fine , id not shy from one of those 

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Some careful shopping and you can find a new one for a really affordable price!

 

I bought one for myself, (Schoolmarm said it was my Christmas present) for less than $500.00 delivered, tax, FFL fee, and shipping!

 

Holds 10 rounds and looks and feels good, right out of the box.

 

I have an 1860 Henry replica and a couple of ‘66s for SASS, but I could use this one in a match after it’s cleaned up and slicked up.

 

Not only that, I can shoot my hot, Ruger only rounds out of it, something I don’t want to do with the toggle link rifles.

 

For the money, you’re into your own SASS legal rifle for now and you can hunt with it too!

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OK, I'll bite - what is a "shotgun boogie" spring kit?
Price was my number one factor, right now, but willing to branch out. Where is a good place to buy Ruglin rifles?

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Shotgun Boogie is a SASS gunsmith. He lives on the west side of Phoenix. He most likely will be at EOT at his gunsmithing trailer. He also has a website. I have shot his guns and you can't get any smoother.

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If'n it were me, buy the Ruger/Marlin.

If you shoot cowboy, it will last ya and can be shot fairly fast.

If you decide to not shoot cowboy, it will sell easier/quicker than the Heritage or be a great go-to gun.

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I would not dismiss the Heritage rifles/carbines out of hand.  The Turks make so darn fine guns.  Worked the Wallow fire here in AZ and bought my son a Turkish Over Under 12 guage with the over time.  I shoot 2 CZ 20 guages o/u and SXS and a 12 guage SXS regularly and they  are great guns.  My Turkish made Tisas Carry a Commander size 1911 with ambi safety is every bit as nice fit and finish as any 1911 I have looked at. About the only thing I find wrong with the Tisas carry is it did not cost enough to have any serious snob appeal.

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Well, Phoenix is pretty close to me...

I am now also considering the Taylor's, which I am sure is another rebadged Uberti, and I like Uberti. My little family started two years ago. 

 

Uberti family.jpg

 

Now the question is, where to FIND a Ruglin rifle, everywhere I looked online was out of stock. Suggestions?
BTW, thank ya'll again for the help and advice. :) 

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Bought mine two weeks ago at Tactical Studio in Glendale for $950. Found it on Armslist and bought it in person. At the time it was the last 357 they had but they had a 44 in stock. 
 

There’s one on there in Tucson right now for $999. 

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Sent you a PM.

 

BTW make sure you buy one with the 18.5" barrel. The 16" barrel version will not hold 10 rounds.

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It's a Rossi 92 .

Most talk crap about the 92's these days .

But they just talk $4!t that others have speud .

Most people can not out run the 92 .

The top Shooters can do it .

But the average shooter can not .

They used to dominate the sport .

They are a fine rifle to start with and or use forever. 

I used a 92 for my first 10 years and still do some times .

I just fell in love with the 66 and started shooting the 66 when I started shooting Black Powder full time .

So Saith The Rooster 

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I am never ever going to be a "top" shooter, just a fat old man having fun. :D 

 

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1 hour ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

It's a Rossi 92 .

Most talk crap about the 92's these days .

But they just talk $4!t that others have speud .

Most people can not out run the 92 .

The top Shooters can do it .

But the average shooter can not .

They used to dominate the sport .

They are a fine rifle to start with and or use forever. 

I used a 92 for my first 10 years and still do some times .

I just fell in love with the 66 and started shooting the 66 when I started shooting Black Powder full time .

So Saith The Rooster 

this is exactly my experience , i spent a decade shooting the 92 , it worked great and gave me no trouble at all , , then i had to try an 1860 and didnt like the hop ,  found a 73 , then a marlin 94 , i liked that but prefer my 45colt rounds to my 38s , then a 66 - decided that was the one , been shooting it ever since , i have all of them and can shoot what suites me , i shoot the 66 and my backup is always my rossie 92 , 

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As others have said, it’s a ‘92 Winchester clone. I had the chance to extensively handle and shoot a couple back in November. A local scout troop bought them and we put them through their paces at an annual fundraiser held at our range. 
 

The guns were brand new straight from the box. We put about 400 rounds of factory .38 SP through each, at 5 rounds per shooter for 800 rounds total. We club volunteers loaded and cleared them after each shooter as quickly as we could. Needless to say, they got warm and dirty throughout a long day. 
 

They were stiff and notchy as most new ‘92s are these days, but held up well under the abuse. We had to retire one of the guns towards the very end as we started getting failures to fire, no doubt due to crud buildup. 
 

They’re good looking, but will definitely need some gunsmithing to smooth things out, which is in line with every gun we play with in our game. The first thing I’d do is shorten the mag tube spring and lighten the loading gate spring. After 300 or so rounds I had to use  a Bic pen as a push stick to get rounds through the gate. Dang, my fingers got sore!

 

At $700 which is significantly less than a new  toggle link gun, it seems like a good starter rifle. It will definitely need tuning, but will last you until you get the itch to add to your collection. I started with a ‘92 and shot that for my first 3 years in SASS. 


 

 

 

 

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That is one of the two complaints I have about my loaner Marlin - it's a pain to get that tube loaded! I thought it was just me being a wuss... By the end of the match my fingers were pretty sore. I can't modify it, of course, not my rifle. 

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get yourself a small piece of antler to use as a push stick , it will save on your thumb , 

 

i have found that i can start a caertridge and then push it in with the next and just continuously feed that way - ther first and last are the only ones that hurt that way 

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I only ever have to push the last cartridge all the way in. I start the first one in and push it in with the next one. Then I repeat the process until I get to the last cartridge.  Since I load the rifle first, I push the last cartridge the rest of the way in with a cartridge that I then load into my first pistol.

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On 1/17/2025 at 11:34 PM, Blackwater 53393 said:

I only ever have to push the last cartridge all the way in. I start the first one in and push it in with the next one. Then I repeat the process until I get to the last cartridge.  Since I load the rifle first, I push the last cartridge the rest of the way in with a cartridge that I then load into my first pistol.

now thats an excellent add on to mu suggestion ill try that as well , ive always used that bit of antler or my thumb that gets pinched  , not that that is the  of the world , one in ten is no problem , one every 200 is 

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1 hour ago, Tajada said:

I don't have a Heritage model, but an older Rossi in .45 and a newer Taurus in .357. The .45 feeds everything and the .357 doesn't feed reliably. IDK if there is a mechanical difference between Heritage and Taurus or not. Some day I may figure out the .357 or sell/trade it off. I grew up in the '50's and '60's when a '92 was used regardless of the time period in TV and movies and have an affection for those guns. They are still viable for multiple uses today.

 

92s are OAL sensitive if you want really smooth feeding.

 

Those in 45 Colt and 44-40 are less sensitive to COAL than one chambered in .357. This is because the cartridge guides for the 45 Colt and 44-40 only have to accommodate a very narrow range of cartridge lengths.

The cartridge guides for rifles chambered in .357 are usually cut to allow shorter 38 Special ammo to also be used. This means that the location of the cartridge guides is a compromise between two different cartridge OALs. There is a modification to the left hand cartridge guide that will also improve feeding in rifles chambered for 38/357.

 

Of the five 92s that I have set up for SASS all have worked the best using 38 special brass and 125 grain truncated cone bullets loaded to an OAL of 1.505" to 1.510" This means that the cartridges are not crimped in the crimp groove but are crimped about 1/2 way between the crimp groove and the lube groove. With cast lead bullets roll crimping outside the crimp groove has never been a problem in the tens of thousands of rounds I have loaded for SASS.

 

One change I did have to make is increasing the powder charge a couple of tenths of a grain over what most people load for CAS in their 38 specials. This is because the longer OAL created more case volume. With some powders this caused the ignition to be erratic in cold weather. Increasing the charge a couple tenths fixed any cold weather issues.

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Interesting. That wouldn't be a problem, I cast and powder coat my own bullets. Current load is the Lee 125gr RNFP crimped in the crimp groove, over 4.4 gr of ZIP, works great. 
The more I think about it the more I think it would be a good starter rifle, and since my son likes Western guns, (no, I tried, he ain't doin' it), when I upgrade I can just pass it down, assuming I live that long!

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