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New limited series on Netflix about the expansion and control of the Utah territory in 1857. The setting, the clothes, and the firearms are great! This is not a glorified depiction of the west. I’m on episode 3 and I think there have been 150+ deaths so far. Brutal. Had no idea about the Mormon Militia. 

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We watched the first episode Thursday night and watched all the rest last night!

My wife had been Mormon. when she was a child, between getting my digs in about the way they acted in the show and every time I got to comment about how women don't LISTEN! It was a great watch!

 

Hope to meet you soon Windy!

I am in Rockford

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As an old Advanced Placement U.S. History teacher, and Western history nut, I love this series. The history of the LDS Church is very interesting and seldom taught part of American history.

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The wagon train attack was spot on. The only thing they got wrong ,probably as it was already intense, is that the Mormon's ordered small children be spared. These children were then adopted into LDS families and raised as their own !!

 I remember reading a story about how one wagon train after the Indians attacked. Mormon riders came in and told the train folks that they were at peace with the local Indians and could halt the attack and guide them thru. Only conditions were all weapons were to be in one wagon under Mormon control. Guess how that worked out?!

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I binged all 6 episodes today.  This is a grim, bloody production.  Kim Coates is a wonderful villain, (the gunfighter in a derby in "Open Range ") who cares if he's stereotyped.  Trying to decide if I enjoyed it...not really but it's hard to stop watching;  kinda like watching the California wildfires.

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Only thing that kind of was kind of off was the wolves attacking the two kids in the building and not touching the two horses tied up out front, don’t think that would have happened, other than that it wasent a bad flick

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On 1/11/2025 at 12:20 PM, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said:

As an old Advanced Placement U.S. History teacher, and Western history nut, I love this series. The history of the LDS Church is very interesting and seldom taught part of American history.

Often it is deliberately passed over because of the many atrocities performed against the Mormons by "Gentiles" that would embarrass a lot of people who were not even alive at the time, but whose forebears were.

 

A lot were commmitted by Federal, and / or state troops, and even more by mobs with no control and no authority.

 

The true history is fascinating and very interesting.

 

My mother's family was deeply involved, both as recipients and avengers.

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Much was done wrong by both sides! Having read and studied the period and the area, it would seem best in my mind to accept that nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong and there was plenty of blame to go around.

 

It is past and cannot be undone! Learn from the mistakes, (something too many are unwilling to do) don’t make them again, and move on!!

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i dont know a lot about this situation , im looking forward to watching it , what i do know is that the mormons started a trek from the east to the wast to escape persecution in the civilized part of this country that was settled by those escaping persecution from the old country across the atlantic , i found that interesting in my younger life but not enough to research and study it , 

 

i didnt think much of it until i met my current wife who has family in idaho going back quite a few generations , so i had occasion but didnt take the time then , now im reinterested , so i will , ive remembered all the comments and responses to my questions regarding the mormons that came up in conversations with folks out there , 

i also need to inject here that i grew up with a family of mormons living next door , nice people of very affluent means , then while in college a friend and i let the door knocking LDS missionaries speak to us one evening to find out a bit more of them , i dont recall being overly influenced by either encounter , 

 

i was aware of the meadow mountain massacre from back as a young person because my grandfather was a history buff and instilled it in me , but i was led to believe it was indians more than the mormons , im sure that had to do with the history of the time im looking forward to learning more 

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I may watch this series, but will refrain from commenting on my religious views and those of others. 
 

I recall the mini series Riders of the Purple Sage back in the 80’s. Though I cannot recall any details of the show I do recall the bad blood and animosity that occurred at work amongst folks that were Mormon and those that were not, but felt that everyone needed to know their views on the matter. 
Truthfully, I do not know the history of the Mormons and then, as in now, I keep my trap shut about Hollywood depictions of history. 

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