Subdeacon Joe Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Deconstructing Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam usually abbreviated to Carthago delenda est: "The phrase employs the gerundive, a verbal adjective, of deleo, delere, delevi, deletum, "to destroy",[2] (delendus, -a, -um). The future passive participle "delenda" (meaning "to be destroyed") is then combined with the verb sum ("to be"[3]) or parts thereof, adds an element of compulsion or necessity, yielding "is to be destroyed", or, as it is more commonly rendered "must be destroyed". This then forms a predicative adjective.[4] This construction in Latin is known as the passive periphrastic. Carthago, -inis being a feminine noun, the feminine gender of the gerundive is applied. The fuller forms Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam or Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam use the so-called accusative and infinitive for the indirect statement."
Sedalia Dave Posted January 1 Posted January 1 2 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Deconstructing Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam usually abbreviated to Carthago delenda est: "The phrase employs the gerundive, a verbal adjective, of deleo, delere, delevi, deletum, "to destroy",[2] (delendus, -a, -um). The future passive participle "delenda" (meaning "to be destroyed") is then combined with the verb sum ("to be"[3]) or parts thereof, adds an element of compulsion or necessity, yielding "is to be destroyed", or, as it is more commonly rendered "must be destroyed". This then forms a predicative adjective.[4] This construction in Latin is known as the passive periphrastic. Carthago, -inis being a feminine noun, the feminine gender of the gerundive is applied. The fuller forms Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam or Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam use the so-called accusative and infinitive for the indirect statement." That made my head hurt.
John Kloehr Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Carthage must fall. The use of three words as a reduction from the original Latin evidences the loss of linguistic skill in society at large. The use of a single noun, a verb, and an intervening word to join them, completes a sentence. This intervening word is a part of speech. "Fall" can be confusing as a verb as it can also be used as a noun. It is spelled the same as as an annual season, so meaning must be determined from context.
Pat Riot Posted January 1 Posted January 1 I should memorize that and use it to ward off people that I don’t want to associate with… Guy: ”Hi! My Name is Bob. Nice car. I was wondering, where do you see yourself in five years? I ask because I would like to show you my business and ways to increase your income ten-fold in five years. Want to hear about it?” Me: “Yes, but first you need to hear this… “ This is when I repeat Joe’s fascinating post above. Fascinating because that is the best description of anything I have ever seen that appears to be completely formulated to explain yet baffle.
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted January 1 Posted January 1 PLUS ONE for Sedalia Dave. Whew!!! Literary Brain Freeze 😵
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 1 Author Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: PLUS ONE for Sedalia Dave. Whew!!! Literary Brain Freeze 😵 It does take several reads and parsing to make sense of it, doesn't it?
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 18 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Deconstructing Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam usually abbreviated to Carthago delenda est: "The phrase employs the gerundive, a verbal adjective, of deleo, delere, delevi, deletum, "to destroy",[2] (delendus, -a, -um). The future passive participle "delenda" (meaning "to be destroyed") is then combined with the verb sum ("to be"[3]) or parts thereof, adds an element of compulsion or necessity, yielding "is to be destroyed", or, as it is more commonly rendered "must be destroyed". This then forms a predicative adjective.[4] This construction in Latin is known as the passive periphrastic. Carthago, -inis being a feminine noun, the feminine gender of the gerundive is applied. The fuller forms Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam or Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam use the so-called accusative and infinitive for the indirect statement." I used to be a school teacher, was an English major, and have always been somewhat of a word smith. There are only about six or seven words I even recognized in that. A tip of the hat to you.
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