Opinions on primers needed

[wyliefoxEsquire]

11 hours ago, Lucky R. K. said:

Unless you are a super-duper gamer, if you have seen one primer you have seen them all

Please explain the difference between

Gamer

Super Gamer

Super-Duper Gamer

regarding primers.

 

 

[Griff]

3 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:

You might want to confirm the shellplate indexing is correct. Dillon has a tool for that.

Make sure you have no up/down play in the shellplate and that the primer seating rod is straight. 

Does it act up with both large and small CCI primers? 

OLG, this was a problem 37 years ago.  It could have been related to "new-user-ignorance"... but it's been so long ago that at the time all I could attribute it to was the CCIs... I couldn't even tell you if was only large or small, or both...   I can tell you that I didn't change primers due to the problem... it's just that I got a deal on Winchester primers and the problem disappeared.  I'm still using CCI Mag large rifle for the 7mm Rem Mag, but since it only gets a few rounds a year, it'll be some time before they're used up...  and only loaded on the RockChucker.  

[Lucky R. K.]

11 hours ago, wyliefoxEsquire said:

Please explain the difference between

Gamer

Super Gamer

Super-Duper Gamer

regarding primers.

 

 

Their is not that much difference in them. Basically, their hammer springs are so weak they will only break the softest of of primers. Usually Federal. There is nothing wrong with that if that is the way you want to play the game.

Lucky 

 

[Griff]

15 hours ago, wyliefoxEsquire said:

Please explain the difference between

Gamer

Super Gamer

Super-Duper Gamer

regarding primers.

3 hours ago, Lucky R. K. said:

Their is not that much difference in them. Basically, their hammer springs are so weak they will only break the softest of of primers. Usually Federal. There is nothing wrong with that if that is the way you want to play the game.

Lucky 

I don't know if I'm a "Gamer", "Super Gamer" or a "Super-Duper Gamer"?  I have most of the super duper "go-fast" parts in my guns... shoot a slicked up shotgun, (maybe not the best), slicked-up and lightened springs in my six-guns & rifles, shoot specialized cartridges in my six-guns, occasionally in the rifle, LNLR in the shotgun, and the lightest bullets that're half-assed accurate in rifle & six-guns.  I like to figure out the BEST way to shoot a stage, (when allowed... round count stages or gun options), stage my guns within a hair of legal, hover over 'em in preparation of grabbin' & usin' 'em.  And seldom shoot faster'n about 45 seconds or so for a 10-10-4 stage.    Most of the time in high 50's!  The same applies when I shoot FC or Frontiersman.   If I really screw up, I'll shoot a high 20 second stage...   I've been hounded to shoot faster... asked if I'd shoot an entire match like I intended to win (as if!)!!!  I can barely shoot a stage as if I intended to win!  My best finish at an EOT was around 35th, the worst, dead last... if you don't count the SDQ & MDQs behind me...  I have a wall of plaques and awards, mostly side match wins and a few 1st, 2nd & 3rd Category finishes... I'm probably most proud of that EOT that I finished in the rain, with one 180+ second stage, dead last... but CLEAN, shooting Frontiersman.  

 

My J-O-B keeps from shooting as often as I'd like, & practice must be the dirtiest word in the English language according my participation in it!  If it's a sin, then I'm a Saint!

 

If there's nothing wrong with running lightened springs that will only set off Federal primers... then why bring it up?  Long live the Gamers in our Sport, any sort of "gamer"!  The only folks worthy of derision and shame are the cheats.  

 

[Lucky R. K.]

20 hours ago, Griff said:

I don't know if I'm a "Gamer", "Super Gamer" or a "Super-Duper Gamer"?  I have most of the super duper "go-fast" parts in my guns... shoot a slicked up shotgun, (maybe not the best), slicked-up and lightened springs in my six-guns & rifles, shoot specialized cartridges in my six-guns, occasionally in the rifle, LNLR in the shotgun, and the lightest bullets that're half-assed accurate in rifle & six-guns.  I like to figure out the BEST way to shoot a stage, (when allowed... round count stages or gun options), stage my guns within a hair of legal, hover over 'em in preparation of grabbin' & usin' 'em.  And seldom shoot faster'n about 45 seconds or so for a 10-10-4 stage.    Most of the time in high 50's!  The same applies when I shoot FC or Frontiersman.   If I really screw up, I'll shoot a high 20 second stage...   I've been hounded to shoot faster... asked if I'd shoot an entire match like I intended to win (as if!)!!!  I can barely shoot a stage as if I intended to win!  My best finish at an EOT was around 35th, the worst, dead last... if you don't count the SDQ & MDQs behind me...  I have a wall of plaques and awards, mostly side match wins and a few 1st, 2nd & 3rd Category finishes... I'm probably most proud of that EOT that I finished in the rain, with one 180+ second stage, dead last... but CLEAN, shooting Frontiersman.  

 

My J-O-B keeps from shooting as often as I'd like, & practice must be the dirtiest word in the English language according my participation in it!  If it's a sin, then I'm a Saint!

 

If there's nothing wrong with running lightened springs that will only set off Federal primers... then why bring it up?  Long live the Gamers in our Sport, any sort of "gamer"!  The only folks worthy of derision and shame are the cheats.  

 

I was trying to make the point that almost any available primer would work just fine unless your guns were set up with competition springs. It seems that every time I offer a comment someone wants to take exception and make an issue of it. I don't understand why. It's getting to the point that it just isn't worth the aggravation. 

Lucky 

[Griff]

12 minutes ago, Lucky R. K. said:

I was trying to make the point that almost any available primer would work just fine unless your guns were set up with competition springs. It seems that every time I offer a comment someone wants to take exception and make an issue of it. I don't understand why. It's getting to the point that it just isn't worth the aggravation. 

Lucky 

Then simply say it like that.  There's no need to include superfluous adjectives with a somewhat negative connotation that sounds judgemental.  Not to worry tho'... we're all guilty of the same thing! 

[Lucky R. K.]

23 hours ago, Griff said:

Then simply say it like that.  There's no need to include superfluous adjectives with a somewhat negative connotation that sounds judgemental.  Not to worry tho'... we're all guilty of the same thing! 

You sure read more into the post than I wrote.

Lucky 

[Phantom, SASS #54973]

9 minutes ago, Lucky R. K. said:

You sure read more into the post than I wrote.

Lucky 

My take was/is the same as Griff's...

 

Cheers! 

Phantom

[Lucky R. K.]

On 12/10/2024 at 10:09 AM, Phantom, SASS #54973 said:

My take was/is the same as Griff's...

 

Cheers! 

Phantom

I can't do anything about your take on anything. I explained my comments and that is all I can do.

Lucky 

[Phantom, SASS #54973]

3 minutes ago, Lucky R. K. said:

I can't do anything about your take on anything. I explained my comments and that is all I can do.

Lucky 

Well you used the word "you" when replying to Griff's take on your comments... Just wanted you to know that Griff's take wasn't a singular one. 

 

Phantom

[Palmetto Traveller]

I have used CCI 400 SRP with good results when I couldn't source Federals and my main match pistols had action work done 11 years ago by Jimmy Spurs. I just recently picked up some of the S&B from Sportsman's Whse so I'll be testing those in the coming weeks. I've actually had more ftf from Federal 100s than the CCI 400s.

[Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator]

Tell,

As you very well know, I am a fan of Federal GM200M primers.  Trouble for you at this point in time is that I have bought so many from you over last year or so, I am stocked up for years to come.  At least that is my current thought but IF I decide to stock up even more, YOU IS THE GUY.  Thanks for what you do for us shooters and your continued search for good pricing to pass on to us.

Billy Boots

[Skullbone Willie]

Federal in my pistols only……

Cheddite 209’s are great in my Shotgun Shells.