Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 1 hour ago, Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L said: I've gone through both of the guns that I bought and found nothing out of the ordinary from a standard Stoeger. They both slicked up well. Good move by Stoeger to give a little price relief for new shooters on a budget. JM Johnny, years ago after Larsen's article came out, I swapped the triggers on an old Stoeger I had at the time, do you think it can still be done one these new ones? Thanks Randy Quote
Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 I'll be Dove hunting in the morning, but when I get home I'll check and see. I believe that there is no change in the trigger design. JM 1 Quote
DeaconKC Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 Well got some sad news today. I spoke with our Benelli Factory rep to order some of these budget shotguns and was in formed they were a one-off for those retailers' Black Friday and there are no plans to make these a regular item. Quote
Dapper Dave Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 Really? So I gots me a "limited edition"? 😋 1 Quote
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted December 24, 2024 Author Posted December 24, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dapper Dave said: Really? So I gots me a "limited edition"? 😋 Sportsman’s Warehouse still has a few of these in stores scattered across the country. I would probably buy another but the closest one to me is 200 miles. Randy https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/stoeger-coach-12-gauge-3in-matte-black-side-by-side-shotgun-20in/p/1906621 You can click on check nearby stores to find who has them. Edited December 24, 2024 by Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Added info 1 1 Quote
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 https://marauder.homestead.com/files/Double1.html And two additional pages of older, but still good info 1 1 Quote
Nickle Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 My cheap Brazilian double is modified/ improved cylinder. The barrels regulation isn't perfect. Years ago I bought a book from brownells by. Roy F. Dunlap ,Gunsmithing. I'm sure you and everyone else has read this book at one time or another. pages 330,331 "Another method of correcting an off shooting shotgun is in little favor today. It consists of removing metal from inside the bore at the muzzle, in the direction desired to move the pattern . Metal must be filed all the way back the length of the choke " Any of you tried this? Quote
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted December 27, 2024 Author Posted December 27, 2024 15 minutes ago, Nickle said: My cheap Brazilian double is modified/ improved cylinder. The barrels regulation isn't perfect. Years ago I bought a book from brownells by. Roy F. Dunlap ,Gunsmithing. I'm sure you and everyone else has read this book at one time or another. pages 330,331 "Another method of correcting an off shooting shotgun is in little favor today. It consists of removing metal from inside the bore at the muzzle, in the direction desired to move the pattern . Metal must be filed all the way back the length of the choke " Any of you tried this? Years ago a friend with a gunshop (now deceased) helped me correct an old Stoeger with a choke reamer from Brownells. It worked perfect, you just had to be slow and deliberate. Randy 1 Quote
Marshal Stone, SASS #53366 Posted December 28, 2024 Posted December 28, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 6:10 AM, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said: Sportsman’s Warehouse still has a few of these in stores scattered across the country. I would probably buy another but the closest one to me is 200 miles. Randy https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/stoeger-coach-12-gauge-3in-matte-black-side-by-side-shotgun-20in/p/1906621 You can click on check nearby stores to find who has them. Randy; Have the store that has one transfer it to your closest store. Stone 1 Quote
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted December 28, 2024 Author Posted December 28, 2024 17 minutes ago, Marshal Stone, SASS #53366 said: Randy; Have the store that has one transfer it to your closest store. Stone I didn’t ask but the website implied they were only available at selected stores? Thanks Randy Quote
San Joaquin Shootist Posted January 3 Posted January 3 I bought the last one of these Stoegers in stock at the Elk Grove, CA Sportsmans Warehouse. Has anyone been give grief at a match over the synthetic stock? Quote
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted January 3 Posted January 3 4 hours ago, San Joaquin Shootist said: I bought the last one of these Stoegers in stock at the Elk Grove, CA Sportsmans Warehouse. Has anyone been give grief at a match over the synthetic stock? Why would they? The stock is LEGAL. Replacement parts may be made from materials other than the original unless such material is specifically prohibited. SHB p.33 & Grips or stocks of synthetic or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock. That is, they must be of the same basic shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms. SHB p. 35 5 4 Quote
San Joaquin Shootist Posted January 3 Posted January 3 7 hours ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said: Why would they? The stock is LEGAL. Replacement parts may be made from materials other than the original unless such material is specifically prohibited. SHB p.33 & Grips or stocks of synthetic or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock. That is, they must be of the same basic shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms. SHB p. 35 Thanks for making that plain and simple PWB. 1 1 Quote
Frontier Lone Rider Posted January 3 Posted January 3 On 12/4/2024 at 9:09 PM, Preacherman said: You can reverse the triggers and if long enough cut the barrels to get cylinder bores = better cowboy gun. I fail to see any advantage to reversing the triggers on a side by side. The barrels are right there side by side, not more than a half inch apart. What you hit with one, you should be able to hit with the other. The Stoeger Supremes have removable Chokes so you can have whatever Choke Size you want in either barrel. 1 Quote
Eyesa Horg Posted January 3 Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, Frontier Lone Rider said: I fail to see any advantage to reversing the triggers on a side by side. The barrels are right there side by side, not more than a half inch apart. What you hit with one, you should be able to hit with the other. The Stoeger Supremes have removable Chokes so you can have whatever Choke Size you want in either barrel. I have no real life match experience with my Stoeger with the stock triggers. When I read Mr. Pettifogger's articles, I just figured I'd do it. Seems to make sense as you don't have to remove and reinsert your finger. It just slides off the front trigger onto the rear. Because that's what I've been shooting for 13 years, I'd be inclined to want it on a new one. The other mod I did was to have the forcing cones lengthened and polished. It made a noticeable difference in recoil and so much easier to clean than that stock unpolished rough surface on the stock barrels. Quote
John Kloehr Posted January 3 Posted January 3 46 minutes ago, Frontier Lone Rider said: I fail to see any advantage to reversing the triggers on a side by side. ... 36 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said: I have no real life match experience with my Stoeger with the stock triggers. When I read Mr. Pettifogger's articles, I just figured I'd do it. Seems to make sense as you don't have to remove and reinsert your finger. It just slides off the front trigger onto the rear. ... In the alternative, the only reason to reverse the triggers is for a lefty. Otherwise, use the triggers as intended: Quote
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 On 12/21/2024 at 4:54 PM, Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L said: I've gone through both of the guns that I bought and found nothing out of the ordinary from a standard Stoeger. They both slicked up well. Good move by Stoeger to give a little price relief for new shooters on a budget. JM On 12/21/2024 at 6:45 PM, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said: Johnny, years ago after Larsen's article came out, I swapped the triggers on an old Stoeger I had at the time, do you think it can still be done one these new ones? Thanks Randy I’m not a gunsmith and I didn’t sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night but I decided to attempt a trigger swap today. I found that this Stoeger doesn’t have a slot for the left and right trigger, both triggers sit beside each other in one big slot. The triggers are cast and it looked like if you ground enough for them to work swapped in the slot they would be able to move around. I don’t think you would have very good luck if you tried it. The casting was a bit gritty so I took a fine stone and smoothed up the sides and they seem to work better. My main reason for wanting to swap them was to shoot the left barrel first so if I was shooting a pigeon flipper the right barrel would be for the bird. Now I may see about getting a choke reamer and opening up both chokes? For the money I still think it would be a good choice for a beginner on a budget, I hope Stoeger decides to make another run of them!🤠 Randy 3 Quote
Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L Posted January 5 Posted January 5 to swap triggers on any Stoeger requires that one side of each trigger has to be ground. They have to be thinned so that they take up the whole trigger slot without a lot of slop and that they smoothly operate against each other. Easy when you have the proper tools and have done it a couple hundred times. JM 1 2 Quote
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 I shot an entire match with it today and while it’s no SKB, it shot well. I was a little fumbly loading it and had to remember it has 2 triggers but I could shoot with it. I finished 2nd Overall. Here’s a video of a 6 knockdown stage. Randy IMG_9435.mov 2 Quote
Mister Badly Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I trimmed the top corners of the extractor at a 45 degree angle to help with loading. The shells tend to hang up on them 1 Quote
High Spade Mikey Wilson Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Muscle memory will take care of the two trigger syndrome. I can't even tell you which trigger I pull first on mine. All I know is it goes of twice everytime I load and shoot it on a stage. 1 Quote
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/3/2025 at 10:43 AM, John Kloehr said: In the alternative, the only reason to reverse the triggers is for a lefty. Otherwise, use the triggers as intended: When I was shooting my double trigger TTN I always slid my trigger finger from the first trigger to the second trigger. Never used two fingers. 4 Quote
Sam Sackett Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Using two fingers on the triggers is a good way to get a surprise. You’ll know it when they both go off at the same time. Sam Sackett 5 Quote
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