What other Spain is there?

[Alpo]

I was looking for the translation of the word Vegas.

 

There was a thread the other day about the guy that was wondering through the Nevada desert and came across this lots of water and called the area Las Vegas.

 

So I thought maybe it was called the fountains, or the lakes, or the ponds. Something like that. I checked with Google translate, and it says that Vegas only means Vegas, that town in Nevada. It has no other meaning in Spanish. That did not make a lot of sense.

 

So I got in touch with someone that I knew was fluent in Spanish and I asked her. She sent me back a picture of a page from a dictionary.

 

"In Spain and Spanish America ..."

 

Basically it means grassy meadow. So the water must have been making grass grow which is why he named it The Meadows.

 

But that part about "in Spain and Spanish America". Is there a Spanish Africa? A Spanish Australia? A Spanish Asia? I kind of thought Spain and Spanish America was all there was. Mexico would certainly be Spanish America but so is Guatemala and Argentina and Cuba and Puerto Rico. Brasil - well that's Portuguee America. But everything else down there in Spanish America. Is there more Spain somewhere besides in America and over there next to France and Portugal?

 

I know there used to be British Africa, and there used to be German Africa, and French Africa and Belgian Africa, but I don't think I've ever heard of Spanish Africa.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

Morocco, Western Sahara, and Guinea.

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

 

Oh Boy.  Alpo is off his meds again.

[Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619]

Philipines are in Asia. Named after the Spanish king of the time by the Spaniards. They ruled the place for a few centuries.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

There was also Pope Alex VI.

 

Pope Alexander VI published a bull, 'Inter caetera', to divide the New World between Spain and Portugal. It decreed that all lands west and south of a meridian line 100 leagues west of the Azores and Cape Verde islands rightfully belonged to Spain. However, it did not solve the tensions between the two colonising nations, partly since it failed to specify the lands on the other side of this line as Portuguese possessions. This led to Spain and Portugal clarifying matters in the 1494 Treaty of Tordesillas.

 

Which left Africa to the Portuguese. But that was forgotten by 1800 or so.

[Alpo]

39 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

Morocco, Western Sahara, and Guinea.

I thought Morocco was France. Casablanca and Vichy and all of that. The only Guinea I've heard of, besides New Guinea (which I think is Australia), is Dutch Guinea. Did not know that Spain was in Northern Africa. Does that go back to the time of the Moors?

[Alpo]

2 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

Pope Alexander VI published a bull, 'Inter caetera', to divide the New World between Spain and Portugal

I remember, in Shogun, where the pilot was explaining to Toronaga about how the Pope gave Japan to Portugal.

 

If I remember correctly, that ticked him off just a little.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

Guinea … wanted differentiate itself from French Guinea and became Guinea Bissau and is a small percent Portuguese.

 

Spain had claims on parts of Morocco, ceding them all in the 70s.

[Subdeacon Joe]

1 hour ago, Alpo said:

 

"In Spain and Spanish America ..."

 

Basically it means grassy meadow. So the water must have been making grass grow which is why he named it The Meadows.

 

But that part about "in Spain and Spanish America"

 

Yep....should have just said, "In Spain and America..."

 

Also, "Spanish America" refers specifically to the geographical regions in the Americas that were colonized by Spain, while "Hispanic America" refers to all the Spanish-speaking countries in the Americas

[Big Gus, SASS# 66666]

There two cities in North Africa that are part of Spain and the European Union, Ceuta and Melilla

Edited December 5, 2024 by Big Gus, SASS# 66666