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You buy an item. It is designed to be mounted on the wall. It comes pre-drilled, for 16-inch centers.

 

Your house however is built on 24s.

 

Would you put one into a stud and use a wall anchor on the other one?

 

Or would you drill two new holes, so that you could put both sides into a stud?

 

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As you can see, I drilled new holes.

 

The handheld phone was slightly crooked. The rack is perfectly level. B)

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Depending on how much weight it had to hold, I'd drill new holes. If the load is going to pull outwards, I'd also drill new holes. Close to the wall and not real heavy, I'd go with the anchor. A Molly can hold quite a bit.

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I don't really like the push-in inserts, drywall may not be in the best shape. The self-drilling "screw" drywall fasteners do better. But you have paneling so those won't even work.

 

Good for you for re-drilling and using screws into studs. Final dress out would be wood plugs in the holes for a finished look.

 

Really hate the nylon butter-fly anchors (open in the wall and often the screw will not find the hole if the item is taken down to repaint), a big PITA to remove later. For drywall, these screw anchors (various weight ratings, maybe 20 to 50 pounds depending on size) easily unscrew and can be spackled over:

 

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That's not just paneling on studs. House was built in 1956, and it's sheetrock on studs. Then in the 70s we put paneling over the sheetrock.

 

I like this type of wall anchor.

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This, however, is what was supplied with the rack.

 

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I don't trust those type. Screws don't hold into them very well.

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8 minutes ago, Alpo said:

That's not just paneling on studs. House was built in 1956, and it's sheetrock on studs. Then in the 70s we put paneling over the sheetrock.

 

I like this type of wall anchor.

il_570xN.4023073975_epfz.jpg

 

This, however, is what was supplied with the rack.

 

IMG_20241126_171957170.thumb.jpg.19cc9903cd963b65a6c52e382fccf32c.jpg

 

I don't trust those type. Screws don't hold into them very well.

 

The ones in the top picture are good but the metal version of them is even better.

 

The ones in the bottom picture suck and are pretty much useless.

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2 hours ago, John Kloehr said:

I don't really like the push-in inserts, drywall may not be in the best shape. The self-drilling "screw" drywall fasteners do better. But you have paneling so those won't even work.

 

Good for you for re-drilling and using screws into studs. Final dress out would be wood plugs in the holes for a finished look.

 

Really hate the nylon butter-fly anchors (open in the wall and often the screw will not find the hole if the item is taken down to repaint), a big PITA to remove later. For drywall, these screw anchors (various weight ratings, maybe 20 to 50 pounds depending on size) easily unscrew and can be spackled over:

 

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I've used those with decent results too. A couple times the whole thing twisted before the screw got tight. 

 

I like these if you have to go into sheetrock due to stud locations. I predrill if it's gonna be heavy or wiggle a Philips screwdriver in to make a wholeHOLE for daySAY an old telephone weight!

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On 11/26/2024 at 7:42 PM, Eyesa Horg said:

I've used those with decent results too. A couple times the whole thing twisted before the screw got tight. 

 

I like these if you have to go into sheetrock due to stud locations. I predrill if it's gonna be heavy or wiggle a Philips screwdriver in to make a wholeHOLE for daySAY an old telephone weight!

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But if you have to remove it for some reason, back screw mostly out, hammer back in, and will still make a mess when pulled.

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3 hours ago, Alpo said:

This, however, is what was supplied with the rack.

 

IMG_20241126_171957170.thumb.jpg.19cc9903cd963b65a6c52e382fccf32c.jpg

 

I don't trust those type. Screws don't hold into them very well.

Right into the garbage can, do not need to think twice.

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3 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

Either of these work extremely well on wood paneling. I'd use these with the original holes.

Thin Wall Anchors for Hollow Walls, Doors, and Togglers

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These are the ones which may not allow reuse, the screw may not go back in and then they make an ugly hole on removal. They do work great on first use, but can not use that exact location again. move over or up or down three inches for the next installation.

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5 hours ago, Alpo said:

You buy an item. It is designed to be mounted on the wall. It comes pre-drilled, for 16-inch centers.

 

Your house however is built on 24s.

 

Would you put one into a stud and use a wall anchor on the other one?

 

Or would you drill two new holes, so that you could put both sides into a stud?

 

IMG_20241126_160921110.thumb.jpg.50da8ca103629914ee143d2f5d926bf7.jpg

 

As you can see, I drilled new holes.

 

The handheld phone was slightly crooked. The rack is perfectly level. B)

it always depends on what you are hanging but that apears to be a gun rack and that weight demands two new holes unless your anchoring into a 3/4" pine wall covering and even then id be safe and find the studs 

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21 hours ago, John Kloehr said:

But if you have to remove it for some reason, back screen mostly out, hammer back in, and will still make a mess when pulled.

The ears break right off with a little pry. No more meds than those plastic screw in ones. We used them (Mollys ) a lot for mounting wall phones. The hold great and take a lot of physical abuse!! But make it real easy to replace phones and jacks etc with a real machines thread.

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