Alpo Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 You buy an item. It is designed to be mounted on the wall. It comes pre-drilled, for 16-inch centers. Your house however is built on 24s. Would you put one into a stud and use a wall anchor on the other one? Or would you drill two new holes, so that you could put both sides into a stud? As you can see, I drilled new holes. The handheld phone was slightly crooked. The rack is perfectly level. Quote
Eyesa Horg Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 (edited) Depending on how much weight it had to hold, I'd drill new holes. If the load is going to pull outwards, I'd also drill new holes. Close to the wall and not real heavy, I'd go with the anchor. A Molly can hold quite a bit. Edited November 27, 2024 by Eyesa Horg Missed a word 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 (edited) I don't really like the push-in inserts, drywall may not be in the best shape. The self-drilling "screw" drywall fasteners do better. But you have paneling so those won't even work. Good for you for re-drilling and using screws into studs. Final dress out would be wood plugs in the holes for a finished look. Really hate the nylon butter-fly anchors (open in the wall and often the screw will not find the hole if the item is taken down to repaint), a big PITA to remove later. For drywall, these screw anchors (various weight ratings, maybe 20 to 50 pounds depending on size) easily unscrew and can be spackled over: Edited November 26, 2024 by John Kloehr 2 Quote
Rip Snorter Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 You might either fill the original holes or screw in screws Just to finish the appearance. I would certainly have drilled to studs as well. Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 Either of these work extremely well on wood paneling. I'd use these with the original holes. Quote
Alpo Posted November 26, 2024 Author Posted November 26, 2024 That's not just paneling on studs. House was built in 1956, and it's sheetrock on studs. Then in the 70s we put paneling over the sheetrock. I like this type of wall anchor. This, however, is what was supplied with the rack. I don't trust those type. Screws don't hold into them very well. 1 Quote
Cypress Sun Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 8 minutes ago, Alpo said: That's not just paneling on studs. House was built in 1956, and it's sheetrock on studs. Then in the 70s we put paneling over the sheetrock. I like this type of wall anchor. This, however, is what was supplied with the rack. I don't trust those type. Screws don't hold into them very well. The ones in the top picture are good but the metal version of them is even better. The ones in the bottom picture suck and are pretty much useless. 2 Quote
Eyesa Horg Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, John Kloehr said: I don't really like the push-in inserts, drywall may not be in the best shape. The self-drilling "screw" drywall fasteners do better. But you have paneling so those won't even work. Good for you for re-drilling and using screws into studs. Final dress out would be wood plugs in the holes for a finished look. Really hate the nylon butter-fly anchors (open in the wall and often the screw will not find the hole if the item is taken down to repaint), a big PITA to remove later. For drywall, these screw anchors (various weight ratings, maybe 20 to 50 pounds depending on size) easily unscrew and can be spackled over: I've used those with decent results too. A couple times the whole thing twisted before the screw got tight. I like these if you have to go into sheetrock due to stud locations. I predrill if it's gonna be heavy or wiggle a Philips screwdriver in to make a wholeHOLE for daySAY an old telephone weight! Edited November 27, 2024 by Eyesa Horg Fricken otto 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 (edited) On 11/26/2024 at 7:42 PM, Eyesa Horg said: I've used those with decent results too. A couple times the whole thing twisted before the screw got tight. I like these if you have to go into sheetrock due to stud locations. I predrill if it's gonna be heavy or wiggle a Philips screwdriver in to make a wholeHOLE for daySAY an old telephone weight! But if you have to remove it for some reason, back screw mostly out, hammer back in, and will still make a mess when pulled. Edited November 28, 2024 by John Kloehr 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 3 hours ago, Alpo said: This, however, is what was supplied with the rack. I don't trust those type. Screws don't hold into them very well. Right into the garbage can, do not need to think twice. 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 3 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Either of these work extremely well on wood paneling. I'd use these with the original holes. These are the ones which may not allow reuse, the screw may not go back in and then they make an ugly hole on removal. They do work great on first use, but can not use that exact location again. move over or up or down three inches for the next installation. Quote
watab kid Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 5 hours ago, Alpo said: You buy an item. It is designed to be mounted on the wall. It comes pre-drilled, for 16-inch centers. Your house however is built on 24s. Would you put one into a stud and use a wall anchor on the other one? Or would you drill two new holes, so that you could put both sides into a stud? As you can see, I drilled new holes. The handheld phone was slightly crooked. The rack is perfectly level. it always depends on what you are hanging but that apears to be a gun rack and that weight demands two new holes unless your anchoring into a 3/4" pine wall covering and even then id be safe and find the studs 1 Quote
Eyesa Horg Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 21 hours ago, John Kloehr said: But if you have to remove it for some reason, back screen mostly out, hammer back in, and will still make a mess when pulled. The ears break right off with a little pry. No more meds than those plastic screw in ones. We used them (Mollys ) a lot for mounting wall phones. The hold great and take a lot of physical abuse!! But make it real easy to replace phones and jacks etc with a real machines thread. Quote
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