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Just sharing the information. 

For them Pards just startimg out or in the need of  a backup Shotgun .

Kentucky Gun Company has a sale on Stoeger 12 gauge Coach Guns right now.  ( 264.74 ) WOW !

https://www.kygunco.com/product/stoeger-coach-gun-sxs-12ga-20-blk-3?utm_source=KyGunCo+Marketing&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Black+November

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I just bought one myself. 

I will report back once it comes in .

Good backup or loaner gun .

Can't have to many shotguns anyway lol 

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The link listing has a black plastic stock.

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1 hour ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said:

I thought plastic stocks were not allowed but I looked through the SHB and could not find it?

 

Randy

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1 hour ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said:

I thought plastic stocks were not allowed but I looked through the SHB and could not find it?

 

Randy

Unless the stock is considered an "accouterment"!  I went back thru several of my Handbooks to 1989 and couldn't find specific wording prohibiting synthetic stocks.  In fact, wording I found in the 2010 SHB suggests that such is allowed (emphasis added):

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Grips or stocks of simulated or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not
customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock. That is, they must be of the same basic
shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms.

 

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4 minutes ago, Griff said:

Grips or stocks of simulated or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not
customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock. That is, they must be of the same basic
shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms.

 

4 minutes ago, Griff said:

Unless the stock is considered an "accouterment"!  I went back thru several of my Handbooks to 1989 and couldn't find specific wording prohibiting synthetic stocks.  In fact, wording I found in the 2010 SHB suggests that such is allowed (emphasis added):

 

Thanks, that’s the only thing I could find.

 

Randy

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10 hours ago, Cholla said:

The link listing has a black plastic stock.

I don't believe it's plastic .

I believe it's painted black wood .

I will report back when it comes in to my FFL .

Rooster 

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1 hour ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

I don't believe it's plastic .

I believe it's painted black wood .

I will report back when it comes in to my FFL .

Rooster 

Why wait?

  • Manufacturer: Stoeger
  • Model: Coach Gun
  • Caliber: 12-Gauge
  • Barrel Length: 20"
  • Chamber: 3"
  • Overall Length: 36.5"
  • Finish: Black Matte
  • Stock: Black Synthetic
  • Sights: Brass Bead
  • Capacity: 2 Shots

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Current (2024) SHB reference:
 

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Grips or stocks of simulated or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock.

That is, they must be of the same basic shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms.

SHB p.34

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said:

Why wait?

  • Manufacturer: Stoeger
  • Model: Coach Gun
  • Caliber: 12-Gauge
  • Barrel Length: 20"
  • Chamber: 3"
  • Overall Length: 36.5"
  • Finish: Black Matte
  • Stock: Black Synthetic
  • Sights: Brass Bead
  • Capacity: 2 Shots

Phantom

22 hours ago, Cholla said:

The link listing has a black plastic stock.

I don't believe it's plastic .

I believe it's painted black wood .

I will report back when it comes in to my FFL .

Rooster 

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44 minutes ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

I don't believe it's plastic .

I believe it's painted black wood .

I will report back when it comes in to my FFL .

Rooster 

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None of those shown in your post have the same number as the link you posted.

 

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So with shipping and a possible fee from your FFL to process the 4473, it's not that great of a deal. I can get on for under $400.00 out the door from my LGS!

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it was free shipping and no sales tax charged.  So just FFL.   

 

edit:  I couldn't help myself.  cheaper than a couple of boxes of primers and a lb of powder.

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2 hours ago, Dred Bob said:

it was free shipping and no sales tax charged.  So just FFL.   

 

edit:  I couldn't help myself.  cheaper than a couple of boxes of primers and a lb of powder.

Okay, that is a deal!!

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8 hours ago, Dred Bob said:

it was free shipping and no sales tax charged.  So just FFL.   

 

edit:  I couldn't help myself.  cheaper than a couple of boxes of primers and a lb of powder.

Ah yes, the old stick-it-to-your-LGS trick...nice.

 

Phantom

 

PS: The product code of 31676 is for a Synthetic stock.

 

 

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23 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

So with shipping and a possible fee from your FFL to process the 4473, it's not that great of a deal. I can get on for under $400.00 out the door from my LGS!

Free shipping and my FFL is only 20.00 .

So I'm going for one .

And I will report back .

I just thought it was a good buy and wanted to share the info .

I never thought most Pards would have such a big issue out of trying to save someone money and passing on a good deal .

 

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13 minutes ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

Free shipping and my FFL is only 20.00 .

So I'm going for one .

And I will report back .

I just thought it was a good buy and wanted to share the info .

I never thought most Pards would have such a big issue out of trying to save someone money and passing on a good deal .

 

I think the problem is most of us try and support out local gun shops. I do admit it's a great deal but personally I'd rather pay a few bucks more to keep my LGS in business. Just MHO

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I have no issue saving money, and I do like to support the local shops. My concern is that the first SKU number provided is for a plastic-stock shotgun. So, I assume we will allow plastic-stocked Marlin rifles and others. This seems like it will open a floodgate of non-original versions.

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2 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

Free shipping and my FFL is only 20.00 .

So I'm going for one .

And I will report back .

I just thought it was a good buy and wanted to share the info .

I never thought most Pards would have such a big issue out of trying to save someone money and passing on a good deal .

 

I guess we'd need to define what you mean by "big issue".

 

1. How much money did you really save by not getting the gun from your LGS.

2. Is it really a good deal for SASS/CAS...if it has a synthetic stock?

 

Why is it when folks point out any kinda negative aspect of a post they get jumped on as being some kind of jerk?

 

Phantom

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On 11/8/2024 at 10:03 AM, Phantom, SASS #54973 said:

I guess we'd need to define what you mean by "big issue".

 

1. How much money did you really save by not getting the gun from your LGS.

2. Is it really a good deal for SASS/CAS...if it has a synthetic stock?

 

Why is it when folks point out any kinda negative aspect of a post they get jumped on as being some kind of jerk?

 

Phantom

No one ever said any of the sort !

If you don't like the gun don't buy one .

That's your prerogative.

 

If the gun has a plastic stock ,  I'll return it .

No big deal , If it don't I'll keep it .

 

I was just passing on the information .

I didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch :P

 

Dont hold your breath to long it will give you

Drain Bamage :lol:

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Well, as a guy who doesn't own a single shotgun yet. that catches my eye, indeed. The cheapest I've been able to find anything was almost $500 for Stoeger SXS 12 ga, so yeah, if I can get one, with the wood furniture, for under $300, heck yes I am interested. Can this deal go for wood stock? Or, does anyone have an alternative place to look? Full disclosure, we only have four gun shops in this town, and none of them carry less expensive double barrels, mostly ARs and hunting stuff. 

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11 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

I was just passing on the information .

I didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch :P

 

Dont hold your breath to long it will give you

Drain Bamage :lol:

Panties...hmmm...yeah this is a cowboy response.

 

Appreciate your passing on your first hand experience about holding one's breath...

 

Why on earth would anyone buy a firearm not knowing the configuration of that firearm. Returns not only cost the buyer shipping and restocking fees, but it incurs a cost/time on the FFL...the FFL that you felt didn't deserve to make a few bucks on the original sale.

 

There is such a thing as a phone...removes doubts/concerns in a few minutes.

 

Phantom

 

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received mine Friday.  It is absolutely a synthetic stock and I don't mind a bit.   I think the Black Wood stocks were just on a supreme model which is about $600 ($350 more).   I still like the look of the gun and unless you look close it makes a good shotgun for SASS.  It's the first new Stoeger I've purchased, the others were all used guns purchased at matches or from SASSNET that were well broken in with various levels of professional and amateur tuning.   Some have been a little problematic to be honest.   This gun is stiff but probably no more so than any other new Stoeger and needs the same work to prepare for  match shooting.  That aside I wouldn't hesitate a second to use this in a match once I loosen it up a bit.  I like the black on black on black look and may use it once in a while just for the look of it.  I think this is a good buy for a starting shooter that may not have the money or availability of other choices.    I was looking for a cheap shotgun for my mancave and I really like SxS's and the short Stoegers so it will probably hang on the wall there when not in use.

 

I spend a LOT of money every year at my LGS(s) but they don't always have the same selection and often can't acquire certain firearms and products from their distributors.  I don't feel guilty when I find a good deal and besides for this price point they may even make more money just on the FFL transfer than they would on the sale.  Also by this logic (LGS only) we wouldn't be buying used guns from each other and cutting out the middle man.  I don't feel guilty about purchasing direct from other SASS members at matches or here where I have purchased numerous items.   I don't prioritize my purchases on the lowest bidder and don't mind spending a reasonable amount more to buy local but I don't think that LGS is the only option that should be considered.   It's certainly not wrong to advocate for supporting local merchants but we each have different resources and priorities to consider.  Anyways, I appreciate the heads up and I'm happy to welcome the new addition to the collection and even welcome the opportunity to practice tuning it up over the winter without risking a large financial investment or buggering up a *good* gun. 

 

Thanks for posting the Sale link. 

 

and I ended up purchasing another $300 worth of shotgun primers, wads, and lead from my LGS while I was picking up the gun and paying them for the FFL transfer.  I'm pretty sure this worked out quite well for all parties involved.

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3 hours ago, Dred Bob said:

I still like the look of the gun and unless you look close it makes a good shotgun for SASS.

That synthetic stock make it a good shotgun for SASS????

 

3 hours ago, Dred Bob said:

I don't feel guilty when I find a good deal and besides for this price point they may even make more money just on the FFL transfer than they would on the sale.

It's not just the money made on a sale. The more a dealer pulls through distribution, the more likely it is that they'll get hard to get (ie: allocated), firearms in the future.

 

Let us know how that synthetic stock works for ya at a sanctioned SASS event 😉

 

Phantom

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I don't think I said that the synthetic stock makes it a good SASS shotgun.  Just saying that like any other Stoeger Coach gun it will make a good SASS shotgun.  However, If I actually stop and consider it in the year I've been in SASS I have a 97' with a split pump grip and a 73 where the wood stock split at the tang but I have never had a synthetic stock on any other gun in my collection damaged by any level of abuse or weather conditions.   They don't warp, they don't chip, they don't crack.  abuse it enough maybe some bondo and a can of black Krylon, good to go.   It's just possible that this black synthetic stock may actually stand up to way more abuse than a traditional wood stock subjected to rain and dropped on stage tables with impunity.   This gun might be worth investing more time into slicking up the action and getting it ready for competition.   Or I might just swap this stock for one of my *good* Stoegers.  

 

thanks for the idea, I honestly think it might be a good one.   Might be my shotgun to go to EoT next spring.  I really don't see a downside to this change.  feeling inspired.

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35 minutes ago, Dred Bob said:

It's just possible that this black synthetic stock may actually stand up to way more abuse than a traditional wood stock subjected to rain and dropped on stage tables with impunity. 

So...yer saying it's SASS legal?

 

Phantom

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One more time:

Current (2024) SHB reference:

" Grips or stocks of simulated or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock. That is, they must be of the same basic shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms."

SHB p.34

 

"Stocks" were added to that allowance in 2009.

The ROC specifically addressed and approved them in regard to Stoeger (Boito) nickel-plated shotguns in 2007.

 

Also:

"Replacement parts may be made from materials other than the original unless such material is specifically prohibited."

SHB p.32

 

 

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