Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 (edited) Just sharing the information. For them Pards just startimg out or in the need of a backup Shotgun . Kentucky Gun Company has a sale on Stoeger 12 gauge Coach Guns right now. ( 264.74 ) WOW ! https://www.kygunco.com/product/stoeger-coach-gun-sxs-12ga-20-blk-3?utm_source=KyGunCo+Marketing&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Black+November Edited November 5 by Rooster Ron Wayne 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Not that unusual of a price. Can be had at other online stores for about the same price. Google "037084316765 Gun Deals" Phantom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Dust SASS 75484 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Great deal for a new shooter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 6 Author Share Posted November 6 I just bought one myself. I will report back once it comes in . Good backup or loaner gun . Can't have to many shotguns anyway lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 The link listing has a black plastic stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 hours ago, Cholla said: The link listing has a black plastic stock. I thought plastic stocks were not allowed but I looked through the SHB and could not find it? Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said: I thought plastic stocks were not allowed but I looked through the SHB and could not find it? Randy @PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said: I thought plastic stocks were not allowed but I looked through the SHB and could not find it? Randy Unless the stock is considered an "accouterment"! I went back thru several of my Handbooks to 1989 and couldn't find specific wording prohibiting synthetic stocks. In fact, wording I found in the 2010 SHB suggests that such is allowed (emphasis added): Quote Grips or stocks of simulated or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock. That is, they must be of the same basic shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Griff said: Grips or stocks of simulated or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock. That is, they must be of the same basic shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms. 4 minutes ago, Griff said: Unless the stock is considered an "accouterment"! I went back thru several of my Handbooks to 1989 and couldn't find specific wording prohibiting synthetic stocks. In fact, wording I found in the 2010 SHB suggests that such is allowed (emphasis added): Thanks, that’s the only thing I could find. Randy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 7 Author Share Posted November 7 10 hours ago, Cholla said: The link listing has a black plastic stock. I don't believe it's plastic . I believe it's painted black wood . I will report back when it comes in to my FFL . Rooster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1 hour ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said: I don't believe it's plastic . I believe it's painted black wood . I will report back when it comes in to my FFL . Rooster Why wait? Manufacturer: Stoeger Model: Coach Gun Caliber: 12-Gauge Barrel Length: 20" Chamber: 3" Overall Length: 36.5" Finish: Black Matte Stock: Black Synthetic Sights: Brass Bead Capacity: 2 Shots Phantom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) Current (2024) SHB reference: Quote Grips or stocks of simulated or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock. That is, they must be of the same basic shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms. SHB p.34 Edited November 7 by PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L add reference 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 7 Author Share Posted November 7 10 hours ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Why wait? Manufacturer: Stoeger Model: Coach Gun Caliber: 12-Gauge Barrel Length: 20" Chamber: 3" Overall Length: 36.5" Finish: Black Matte Stock: Black Synthetic Sights: Brass Bead Capacity: 2 Shots Phantom 22 hours ago, Cholla said: The link listing has a black plastic stock. I don't believe it's plastic . I believe it's painted black wood . I will report back when it comes in to my FFL . Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 44 minutes ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said: I don't believe it's plastic . I believe it's painted black wood . I will report back when it comes in to my FFL . Rooster None of those shown in your post have the same number as the link you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 So with shipping and a possible fee from your FFL to process the 4473, it's not that great of a deal. I can get on for under $400.00 out the door from my LGS! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dred Bob Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) it was free shipping and no sales tax charged. So just FFL. edit: I couldn't help myself. cheaper than a couple of boxes of primers and a lb of powder. Edited November 7 by Dred Bob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 2 hours ago, Dred Bob said: it was free shipping and no sales tax charged. So just FFL. edit: I couldn't help myself. cheaper than a couple of boxes of primers and a lb of powder. Okay, that is a deal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 8 hours ago, Dred Bob said: it was free shipping and no sales tax charged. So just FFL. edit: I couldn't help myself. cheaper than a couple of boxes of primers and a lb of powder. Ah yes, the old stick-it-to-your-LGS trick...nice. Phantom PS: The product code of 31676 is for a Synthetic stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 23 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: So with shipping and a possible fee from your FFL to process the 4473, it's not that great of a deal. I can get on for under $400.00 out the door from my LGS! Free shipping and my FFL is only 20.00 . So I'm going for one . And I will report back . I just thought it was a good buy and wanted to share the info . I never thought most Pards would have such a big issue out of trying to save someone money and passing on a good deal . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 13 minutes ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said: Free shipping and my FFL is only 20.00 . So I'm going for one . And I will report back . I just thought it was a good buy and wanted to share the info . I never thought most Pards would have such a big issue out of trying to save someone money and passing on a good deal . I think the problem is most of us try and support out local gun shops. I do admit it's a great deal but personally I'd rather pay a few bucks more to keep my LGS in business. Just MHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 I have no issue saving money, and I do like to support the local shops. My concern is that the first SKU number provided is for a plastic-stock shotgun. So, I assume we will allow plastic-stocked Marlin rifles and others. This seems like it will open a floodgate of non-original versions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 2 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said: Free shipping and my FFL is only 20.00 . So I'm going for one . And I will report back . I just thought it was a good buy and wanted to share the info . I never thought most Pards would have such a big issue out of trying to save someone money and passing on a good deal . I guess we'd need to define what you mean by "big issue". 1. How much money did you really save by not getting the gun from your LGS. 2. Is it really a good deal for SASS/CAS...if it has a synthetic stock? Why is it when folks point out any kinda negative aspect of a post they get jumped on as being some kind of jerk? Phantom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 10 Author Share Posted November 10 On 11/8/2024 at 10:03 AM, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: I guess we'd need to define what you mean by "big issue". 1. How much money did you really save by not getting the gun from your LGS. 2. Is it really a good deal for SASS/CAS...if it has a synthetic stock? Why is it when folks point out any kinda negative aspect of a post they get jumped on as being some kind of jerk? Phantom No one ever said any of the sort ! If you don't like the gun don't buy one . That's your prerogative. If the gun has a plastic stock , I'll return it . No big deal , If it don't I'll keep it . I was just passing on the information . I didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch Dont hold your breath to long it will give you Drain Bamage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapper Dave Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 Well, as a guy who doesn't own a single shotgun yet. that catches my eye, indeed. The cheapest I've been able to find anything was almost $500 for Stoeger SXS 12 ga, so yeah, if I can get one, with the wood furniture, for under $300, heck yes I am interested. Can this deal go for wood stock? Or, does anyone have an alternative place to look? Full disclosure, we only have four gun shops in this town, and none of them carry less expensive double barrels, mostly ARs and hunting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 11 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said: I was just passing on the information . I didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch Dont hold your breath to long it will give you Drain Bamage Panties...hmmm...yeah this is a cowboy response. Appreciate your passing on your first hand experience about holding one's breath... Why on earth would anyone buy a firearm not knowing the configuration of that firearm. Returns not only cost the buyer shipping and restocking fees, but it incurs a cost/time on the FFL...the FFL that you felt didn't deserve to make a few bucks on the original sale. There is such a thing as a phone...removes doubts/concerns in a few minutes. Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dred Bob Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 received mine Friday. It is absolutely a synthetic stock and I don't mind a bit. I think the Black Wood stocks were just on a supreme model which is about $600 ($350 more). I still like the look of the gun and unless you look close it makes a good shotgun for SASS. It's the first new Stoeger I've purchased, the others were all used guns purchased at matches or from SASSNET that were well broken in with various levels of professional and amateur tuning. Some have been a little problematic to be honest. This gun is stiff but probably no more so than any other new Stoeger and needs the same work to prepare for match shooting. That aside I wouldn't hesitate a second to use this in a match once I loosen it up a bit. I like the black on black on black look and may use it once in a while just for the look of it. I think this is a good buy for a starting shooter that may not have the money or availability of other choices. I was looking for a cheap shotgun for my mancave and I really like SxS's and the short Stoegers so it will probably hang on the wall there when not in use. I spend a LOT of money every year at my LGS(s) but they don't always have the same selection and often can't acquire certain firearms and products from their distributors. I don't feel guilty when I find a good deal and besides for this price point they may even make more money just on the FFL transfer than they would on the sale. Also by this logic (LGS only) we wouldn't be buying used guns from each other and cutting out the middle man. I don't feel guilty about purchasing direct from other SASS members at matches or here where I have purchased numerous items. I don't prioritize my purchases on the lowest bidder and don't mind spending a reasonable amount more to buy local but I don't think that LGS is the only option that should be considered. It's certainly not wrong to advocate for supporting local merchants but we each have different resources and priorities to consider. Anyways, I appreciate the heads up and I'm happy to welcome the new addition to the collection and even welcome the opportunity to practice tuning it up over the winter without risking a large financial investment or buggering up a *good* gun. Thanks for posting the Sale link. and I ended up purchasing another $300 worth of shotgun primers, wads, and lead from my LGS while I was picking up the gun and paying them for the FFL transfer. I'm pretty sure this worked out quite well for all parties involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 3 hours ago, Dred Bob said: I still like the look of the gun and unless you look close it makes a good shotgun for SASS. That synthetic stock make it a good shotgun for SASS???? 3 hours ago, Dred Bob said: I don't feel guilty when I find a good deal and besides for this price point they may even make more money just on the FFL transfer than they would on the sale. It's not just the money made on a sale. The more a dealer pulls through distribution, the more likely it is that they'll get hard to get (ie: allocated), firearms in the future. Let us know how that synthetic stock works for ya at a sanctioned SASS event 😉 Phantom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dred Bob Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 I don't think I said that the synthetic stock makes it a good SASS shotgun. Just saying that like any other Stoeger Coach gun it will make a good SASS shotgun. However, If I actually stop and consider it in the year I've been in SASS I have a 97' with a split pump grip and a 73 where the wood stock split at the tang but I have never had a synthetic stock on any other gun in my collection damaged by any level of abuse or weather conditions. They don't warp, they don't chip, they don't crack. abuse it enough maybe some bondo and a can of black Krylon, good to go. It's just possible that this black synthetic stock may actually stand up to way more abuse than a traditional wood stock subjected to rain and dropped on stage tables with impunity. This gun might be worth investing more time into slicking up the action and getting it ready for competition. Or I might just swap this stock for one of my *good* Stoegers. thanks for the idea, I honestly think it might be a good one. Might be my shotgun to go to EoT next spring. I really don't see a downside to this change. feeling inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 35 minutes ago, Dred Bob said: It's just possible that this black synthetic stock may actually stand up to way more abuse than a traditional wood stock subjected to rain and dropped on stage tables with impunity. So...yer saying it's SASS legal? Phantom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 (edited) One more time: Current (2024) SHB reference: " Grips or stocks of simulated or natural materials are acceptable provided they are not customized to constitute a “target” grip or stock. That is, they must be of the same basic shape as grips or stocks found on original firearms." SHB p.34 "Stocks" were added to that allowance in 2009. The ROC specifically addressed and approved them in regard to Stoeger (Boito) nickel-plated shotguns in 2007. Also: "Replacement parts may be made from materials other than the original unless such material is specifically prohibited." SHB p.32 Edited November 10 by PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L add reference 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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