J.C. Smoke, SASS #22300 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 I have several 66's , I purchase one a while back has a different style firing pin it sticks out the rear . I keep having to thumb cock the hammer to get it to set the primmer off it doesn't do it all the time . I've change the hammer spring still dose the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Lone Rider Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Manufacturer, Uberti, Navy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Is this an Uberti made gun? If so, first, I'd check to see if you have a real old 66 with the 1.500" receiver shaft (for carrier) rather than the newer (since about 1985) frame design with a standard 1.600" long carrier shaft. If you do have the old short frame, sounds like the wrong FP or FP extension might have been installed. A picture of the receiver and hammer area would be very useful! good luck, GJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 THE LIST!!!!!!! 😵 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 1 minute ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: A picture of the receiver and hammer area would be very useful! More like essential. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Smoke, SASS #22300 Posted November 4 Author Share Posted November 4 It's an Uberti I'll try and get pictures I think it's an older gun none of my other ones have a firing pin like this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Sort off hard to answer without photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Actually, it's rather easy. Is it a .38 Special, and what's the date code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 A photo would certainly help understand his description of the strange firing pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 It's incredibly easy to lay a ruler along the carrier shaft and measure the length of it. If gun is chambered in .38 special - it's a short action and old. If it's marked .357 - it's a long action and newer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 9 minutes ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: It's incredibly easy to lay a ruler along the carrier shaft and measure the length of it. If gun is chambered in .38 special - it's a short action and old. If it's marked .357 - it's a long action and newer. None of the .38 '66's should be chambered in .357, but true about the carrier length. He hasn't even said if it is a Navy Arms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Smoke, SASS #22300 Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 IT's a Uberti chamber in 44 special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Smoke, SASS #22300 Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 17 hours ago, Frontier Lone Rider said: Manufacturer, Uberti, Navy? Uberti chamber in 44 special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 If I recall correctly, that was the OTHER chambering that was possible with the short length action. OK, time for a photo or a carrier shaft length measurement. good luck, GJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 No. Uberti started making 44 Spcl 1866's in 2000. The other "short carrier" caliber was 44-40 which had a notch in the frame at the front top of the carrier opening for in case you had to eject a live round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 This is going nowhere without photos showing the questionable fireing pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cemetery Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 what about the firing pin spring? Is it still there? Is it too stiff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 When he says firing pin I think it is actually the rear of the firing pin extension. We need pics. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Smoke, SASS #22300 Posted November 7 Author Share Posted November 7 here are pictures 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 You have one of those custom one-piece firing pins that goes all the way through the extension and the bolt. It is nothing like the stock system. I have one of those in my 73. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 There should be a small roll pin that holds the firing pin extension into the bolt. (Green arrow) I do not see this in your photo. You also do not need the coil spring around the firing pin. The smith that designed the system recommended removing it. There is also a small tool to install and remove the roll pin that came with the firing pin. The small end fits inside the roll pin so you can align it in the hole in the bolt. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Smoke, SASS #22300 Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 I removed the pin i just didn't show it .If you remove the spring what moves the firing pin back , also found these numbers CAT11711 & 90600 , one last question where can i get a new firing pin .The reason for the second post was i didn't know what i was doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Those numbers have nothing to do with the firing pin. They are catalog and part numbers for the gun. If you remove the spring inertia moves it back. You cannot get a new firing pin as they are custom made. You need to try and get hold of whoever made it and see what they can do. I believe the original maker was Roys Creek Dan out of Oklahoma. Or you can just buy new factory parts and go back to the original Uberti firing pin design. (Bolt, firing pin, spring, retainer and firing pin extension. Some of the parts houses sell these as a kit.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 VTI, for example, has this kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 I thought I had done an article on this. See page 44 https://www.sassnet.com/uploads/downloads/cowboychronicle/2016/16janchron.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnee Hills Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Your firing pin is not factory. That looks exactly (without the spring) like the setup that I'm running in my '73s. Snake Oil George did mine and I'll bet he could help you out. The first versions of those used the spring but later ones eliminated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 12 minutes ago, Shawnee Hills said: Your firing pin is not factory. That looks exactly (without the spring) like the setup that I'm running in my '73s. Snake Oil George did mine and I'll bet he could help you out. The first versions of those used the spring but later ones eliminated it. He did the same mod to my 66 when he rebuilt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Never considered "Single Source" whiz bang custom modifications a great idea. Something goes wrong you can be screwed. With setting up OEM parts it's simple to go back to basic. Were it I, I would just revert to well set up OEM parts that are easily replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 3 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Never considered "Single Source" whiz bang custom modifications a great idea. Something goes wrong you can be screwed. With setting up OEM parts it's simple to go back to basic. Were it I, I would just revert to well set up OEM parts that are easily replaced. In my case, factory parts were not an option. Excessive headspace combined with an improperly drilled hole in the frame for the firing pin extension. Wear combined with a hole that was too big from the factory, was allowing too much lateral movement of the FPE causing it to bind. Rather than having to scrap the rifle, Snake Oil George repaired it so that it is now better than when it was new. Snake Oil George does top notch work and the gun will outlast me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnee Hills Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 3 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Never considered "Single Source" whiz bang custom modifications a great idea. Something goes wrong you can be screwed. With setting up OEM parts it's simple to go back to basic. Were it I, I would just revert to well set up OEM parts that are easily replaced. I ain’t skeert. These parts will very likely outlast me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 31 minutes ago, Shawnee Hills said: I ain’t skeert. These parts will very likely outlast me. I don't get it...are you saying you don't wear a Skirt? Phantom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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