Factory ammo

[Rye Miles #13621]

 

I bought some factory .45 colt ammo. The one on the left is Hornady the one on the right is Magtech. The Magtech works great in my 73 but the Hornady jammed up my rifle. Notice no crimp or cantilever. I should have known it would jam (dumba$%)  as the bullet got pushed back in the case!😡😡

(My reloads worked great too )

My reload with red bullet.

Edited November 3, 2024 by Rye Miles #13621

[Rafe Conager SASS #56958]

I run all my factory ammo through my crimp die just to make sure of the oal and crimp. Especially if I'm using them in my rifle.  I've had the same problem (jamming) so I started doing this.

Rafe

[Rye Miles #13621]

14 minutes ago, Rafe Conager SASS #56958 said:

I run all my factory ammo through my crimp die just to make sure of the oal and crimp. Especially if I'm using them in my rifle.  I've had the same problem (jamming) so I started doing this.

Rafe

Like I said, I should have known better. Good idea to run it through a crimp die, thanks!

[McCandless]

The MagTech is looking like the old Winchester rounds from the 1990's - early 2000s.  They had that deep cannelure.  I always wondered if brass (if used multiple times), would break off there.  

[Chief Rick]

20 minutes ago, McCandless said:

The MagTech is looking like the old Winchester rounds from the 1990's - early 2000s.  They had that deep cannelure.  I always wondered if brass (if used multiple times), would break off there.  

I've personally never witnessed a broken case in my own reloads.

 

I've had many more issues of the neck splitting.

 

I occasionally get some empty cases with the cannelure from the brass pickers.  I wash them, inspect them and use them.

[Rip Snorter]

As the Chief said - many decades loading, plenty of split cases but never a problem with cannelure.

[Dapper Dave]

What is "factory ammo"?  Just kidding, good looking out. I love Hornaday bullets for reloading, but their brass and loaded ammo sometimes leaves something to be desired. Have you contacted them about this? The very few times I dealt with Hornday customer service, I was quite pleased. 

[Rye Miles #13621]

2 hours ago, Dapper Dave said:

What is "factory ammo"?  Just kidding, good looking out. I love Hornaday bullets for reloading, but their brass and loaded ammo sometimes leaves something to be desired. Have you contacted them about this? The very few times I dealt with Hornday customer service, I was quite pleased. 

No I bought one box of 20, not worth my time to contact them. I’ll never buy them again. I bought some factory to get started on reloading.45. I’ve been reloading .38’s which is my main match caliber. 
I bought a couple .45 rifles from a friend who’s not shooting anymore. They were originally mine 15 years ago. 
I buy all my bullets from a local guy. Patriot Casting in Ohio. 

Edited November 4, 2024 by Rye Miles #13621

[Dapper Dave]

Nice to see rifles coming home again.  Never heard of Patriot Casting, might look them up. 

[Griff]

Rye... if you're loading 45 Colt and need brass... there's this neat outfit in Sedalia, MO that sells some of the best brass on the market... you mighta heard of 'em?  Starline.    

[Rye Miles #13621]

14 minutes ago, Griff said:

Rye... if you're loading 45 Colt and need brass... there's this neat outfit in Sedalia, MO that sells some of the best brass on the market... you mighta heard of 'em?  Starline.    

Just ordered 1000 .38’s from them!

1 hour ago, Dapper Dave said:

Nice to see rifles coming home again.  Never heard of Patriot Casting, might look them up. 

Sent you a pm 

[watab kid]

well , i learned here that when i buy new brass [that i assumed tro be sized] to resize first , them reload , had nothing but trouble with those i did not resize , ive never had a case failure yet , many reloads in but i sort and toss what is not intact , i admit i thought bew brass would be pre-sized , i learned different here and will never make that mistake again , it spoiled one match for me , 

 

luckily i learned soon enough to help ,my friends that bought new brass same time i did - i caught them up on it in time to prevent them having the same issues i did , my advice is always resize first and inspect before proceeding , discard what is not up to snuff , it saves you a lot in the end , 

[Dapper Dave]

Yes, I have always resized new brass that came in a bag, as almost every single time I found at least one that was no longer round. Did a bunch of 38 Special Starline brass that way last night. 

[Rye Miles #13621]

Just now, Dapper Dave said:

Yes, I have always resized new brass that came in a bag, as almost every single time I found at least one that was no longer round. Did a bunch of 38 Special Starline brass that way last night. 

Sent you a pm 

[Marauder SASS #13056]

Some new brass also have a little bit of rough edge at the top.  Resizing helps, but I check and lightly touch up with a trimmer/de-burr.

 

[Griff]

5 hours ago, Marauder SASS #13056 said:

Some new brass also have a little bit of rough edge at the top.  Resizing helps, but I check and lightly touch up with a trimmer/de-burr.

I also measure for length.  Never found more'n a couple outta spec in a 1,000, but... quick check for max length saves an interruption during loading on a progressive.

[Major Crimes]

Be very wary of PPU factory ammo and reloading the brass.

 

I bought a few boxes of 45/70 and the projectiles push back into the case and the rims measured from .600 to .660. It played merry hell with my Pedersoli 1886.