No Universal Powder for a while

[Pat Riot]

I like Universal powder for my 115 grain 9mm loads. My stash is running low so I decided to email Hodgdon to see if and when that powder might be available. 
This is their response:
Thank you for contacting us. Universal along with all extruded shotshell powders are out of production. We do not have an estimate on when they will again be available. We do not anticipate any production in 2025.

It wasn’t what I was hoping for.

[J-BAR #18287]

Yep.

 

 I like Universal, too.

 

The unavailability sucks.

 

 

 

 

[Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474]

[bgavin]

Alliant Red Dot appears to be suffering the same fate.
Pity.

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

Why?

[Sedalia Dave]

Shortage of nitrocellulose. What little there is has been dedicated to military munitions.

[Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme]

2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

Shortage of nitrocellulose. What little there is has been dedicated to military munitions.

This one ^.

[Pat Riot]

We were warned.

 

Supposedly Vihta Vuori does not have this issue. 

[Whitey James]

I still have at least a half pound of Universal. Not my favorite powder so I don't use it really. Bought it a few years back when everything was in short supply. I have used it to load 45 Colt but I don't like how it meters in my RCBS Uniflow.

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

5 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

Shortage of nitrocellulose. What little there is has been dedicated to military munitions.

But we're not at war anywhere.....are we? 

[Sedalia Dave]

27 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

But we're not at war anywhere.....are we? 

 

We are fighting 2 wars by proxi.

 

Ukraine vs Russia

 

Israel vs Iran

[Pat Riot]

12 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

But we're not at war anywhere.....are we? 

All of our surplus munitions went to Ukraine and Israel. Now those surpluses need to be replaced. Hence, all the smokeless powder or the resources to make smokeless powder spec’d for military small arms munitions. 
 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

16 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 

We are fighting 2 wars by proxi.

 

Ukraine vs Russia

 

Israel vs Iran

Yeah, but WE haven't even seriously  fought, much less won, any war since 1945.

 

We walked away from Korea without anything bur a cease fire, which NK has violated dozen of times; walked away from Vietnam leaving millions of people to the murderous dictatorial government, and supplying that new government with millions of dollars worth of stuff that we didn't even make of an effort to destroy;  been fiddling around in the Middle East in a war that has been going on for a thousand years; took a side in a fight between two of the most criminal governments in history, supporting the side we chose with anything they want; are tolerating people in our own country who are against the only nation we should be supporting because we are responsible for their very existence; allowed entire nations that we destroyed in the last war we fought and brought them to their knees without any chance of surviving, helping them to get up and be against us all over the planet; allowing our own government to encourage and even assist invaders from over our southern border to walk in without so much as a harsh word, supporting the invaders who violate every single law and value we had; etdamncetera.

 

Proxi?  No! We are being used by the enemies of our state and by the government that we  deserve for letting it happen.  WE don't vote, We don't protest, We don't express ourselves to the media, the elected officials, and the power-hungry criminals who buy the government".

 

WE don't care enough to much more than complain without action. 

 

Rant over.

[Sedalia Dave]

5 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Yeah, but WE haven't even seriously  fought, much less won, any war since 1945.

 

We walked away from Korea without anything bur a cease fire, which NK has violated dozen of times; walked away from Vietnam leaving millions of people to the murderous dictatorial government, and supplying that new government with millions of dollars worth of stuff that we didn't even make of an effort to destroy;  been fiddling around in the Middle East in a war that has been going on for a thousand years; took a side in a fight between two of the most criminal governments in history, supporting the side we chose with anything they want; are tolerating people in our own country who are against the only nation we should be supporting because we are responsible for their very existence; allowed entire nations that we destroyed in the last war we fought and brought them to their knees without any chance of surviving, helping them to get up and be against us all over the planet; allowing our own government to encourage and even assist invaders from over our southern border to walk in without so much as a harsh word, supporting the invaders who violate every single law and value we had; etdamncetera.

 

Proxi?  No! We are being used by the enemies of our state and by the government that we  deserve for letting it happen.  WE don't vote, We don't protest, We don't express ourselves to the media, the elected officials, and the power-hungry criminals who buy the government".

 

WE don't care enough to much more than complain without action. 

 

Rant over.

I wholeheartedly agree. 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

I use Unique or Universal Tit for tat .

Now both are just about impossible to find anywhere. 

Thankfully I have several pounds of it .

I have been shooting APP FFF as my primary powder now for about the last 10 years .

So my supplies are very good for now .

I pray once we kick some people out of office in November. 

We can change some direction in this country and the powder may be available sooner then latter .

God bless America. 

Rooster.