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So if I expect to make a massive amount of money off of this, I need to sell my bottle of Trail Boss quickly?

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Not to be “that guy”, but I wouldn’t believe it until I saw it. 
Once made it’ll probably take 6 months before most folks see it on their store shelves or online. 

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11 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

Not to be “that guy”, but I wouldn’t believe it until I saw it. 
Once made it’ll probably take 6 months before most folks see it on their store shelves or online. 

 

If it comes back at all.

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Translated to US powder names

 

AR2208 Varget
AR2209 IMR 4350
– We have these propellants represented through the different stages of manufacture almost constantly.

 

AR2213SC H4831SC
AR2217 H1000
AR2218 H50BMG
AR2219 H322
AR2225 Retumbo
– Is typically made multiple times a year.

 

Benchmark 2 Benchmark
– These propellants only account for a small proportion of our annual demand and are currently in production.

 

We endeavour to make them in line with market demand.

Trail Boss
AR2205 H4227
AR2206(H) BL-C(2)
AR2207 H4198
– These propellants only account for a small proportion of our annual demand.
  Manufacturing is scheduled for late 2024/early 2025.

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10 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

Not to be “that guy”, but I wouldn’t believe it until I saw it. 
Once made it’ll probably take 6 months before most folks see it on their store shelves or online. 

 

They have given us dates before and failed to deliver. 

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Typical business ploy.  Never tell your customers you have discontinued a product if you can string them along to believe it may become available in the future.  Otherwise that customer will start looking for another vendor and a replacment product.  I will believe Trail Boss and Clays are available again when I see them on the shelves of the local retailers.  Reminds me of some magazine publishers that keep accepting subscriptions and renewals even though they know they are declaring bankruptcy in a few weeks.

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If the dam fools would make more trail boss they would sell more trail boss. Pretty hard to get good sales figures if you have nothing to sell. I agree with Larsen. Typical business ploy

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There is no sense among bean counters.

I remember when the computer system board makes decided to use CCS (cheap Chinese... stuff) for capacitors instead of the premium Rubicon Japanese products.
They figured they would save a few pennies per board.
Then, they lost millions in class action lawsuits, and finally lost their companies to bankruptcy.

 

As for ADI, I have no doubt the bean counters have decided that Trail Boss is not as profitable as their other lines.

They are dedicating their full production capabilities to the most profitable lines.
Apparently Trail Boss, ain't it.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, bgavin said:

There is no sense among bean counters.

I remember when the computer system board makes decided to use CCS (cheap Chinese... stuff) for capacitors instead of the premium Rubicon Japanese products.
They figured they would save a few pennies per board.
Then, they lost millions in class action lawsuits, and finally lost their companies to bankruptcy.

 

As for ADI, I have no doubt the bean counters have decided that Trail Boss is not as profitable as their other lines.

They are dedicating their full production capabilities to the most profitable lines.
Apparently Trail Boss, ain't it.

 

 

 

  ........................ I have a growing dislike for "bean counters" .........  😬

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7 hours ago, bgavin said:

There is no sense among bean counters.

I remember when the computer system board makes decided to use CCS (cheap Chinese... stuff) for capacitors instead of the premium Rubicon Japanese products.
They figured they would save a few pennies per board.
Then, they lost millions in class action lawsuits, and finally lost their companies to bankruptcy.

 

As for ADI, I have no doubt the bean counters have decided that Trail Boss is not as profitable as their other lines.

They are dedicating their full production capabilities to the most profitable lines.
Apparently Trail Boss, ain't it.

 

 

 

What stopped powder production at ADI was Australia's adoption of the European Union's REACH protocols. REACH banned the use of a bunch of chemicals including a key plasticizer used in the production of almost all of the powders ADI produced. ADI has had a difficult time reformulating their powders without the use of this particular chemical.

 

Fortunately for shooters in North America, REACH was not adopted by the US and Canada.

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REACH protocols are also developed by bean counters.
The ADI bean counters apparently recalculated their production based on these new onerous demands.


I don't know if REACH also impacted VV TinStar N32C, which is the next closest to Trail Boss.


The EPA bean counters denied me being able to purchase a new Toyota Hilux truck.
I'm told it has something to do with weight to emission ratios.
The 4 cylinder small Hilux produces less total emission than my big porker new Tacoma, but the Tacoma has a better weight:emission ratio.

Bean counters.

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10 hours ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

I've tried to contact them a few times now, via their "Contact Us" feature on the website.

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Sadly, I guess Larson E. Pettifogger is right and we're hooped :(

 

That's a shame to read that CLK, they are usually really good and get back within 24-48 hours. 

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Great news Trail Boss is finally available for sale again (in stock sitting on shelves) at many gun shops in Australia...... Naturally it's selling fast! 

Hopefully they have made (and are still making) enough to send over to you pards in the U. S. 

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1 hour ago, Buckshot Bear said:

Great news Trail Boss is finally available for sale again (in stock sitting on shelves) at many gun shops in Australia...... Naturally it's selling fast! 

Hopefully they have made (and are still making) enough to send over to you pards in the U. S. 

 

What is the price?

Posted
9 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said:

I saw Elvis today…

 

Probably carrying a 10lb jug of Trail Boss in each hand.

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7 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said:

 

Is it true there are only two?

Two gun shops or two cans of TrailBoss?

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3 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said:

Great news Trail Boss is finally available for sale again (in stock sitting on shelves) at many gun shops in Australia...... Naturally it's selling fast! 

Hopefully they have made (and are still making) enough to send over to you pards in the U. S. 

Well apparently photos are required.

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5 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said:

 

Is it true there are only two?

 

5 hours ago, Yul Lose said:

Two gun shops or two cans of TrailBoss?

 

5 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said:

:P

 

Gun shops.  But now that you mention it cans too!:P

 

 

   ....... yes ......... one can in each shop .......  😇

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That just killed the value of my unopened 5lb jug.

 

 

 

Wasn't gonna sell it anyway.

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15 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said:

Great news Trail Boss is finally available for sale again (in stock sitting on shelves) at many gun shops in Australia...... Naturally it's selling fast! 

Hopefully they have made (and are still making) enough to send over to you pards in the U. S. 

Thank you for that news. :)

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4 hours ago, Sixgun Seamus said:

That just killed the value of my unopened 5lb jug.

Wasn't gonna sell it anyway.

I have the same.
Not up for resale.
Bought it cheap so won't ever lose value.

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On 11/9/2024 at 10:43 PM, Buckshot Bear said:

 

That's a shame to read that CLK, they are usually really good and get back within 24-48 hours. 

 

Could you ask if/when they might be shipping any to the USA and Canada?

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