4.4 mile record rifle shot

[Rye Miles #13621]

4.4 mile record rifle shot. Interesting read!

https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/new-world-record-longest-rifle-shot/

[Pat Riot]

Lucky Lobbing 

 

I was asking myself “How is this ‘Marksmanship’?” When I came across this in the article:

What does it signify in terms of actual marksmanship? That’s a somewhat difficult question to answer as a lot of skill, engineering, and prep work—more than 1,500 hours, 
 

It’s a very interesting effort, but I don’t consider feats like this to be “marksmanship”.

I highly doubt a military marksman or a highly skilled hunter gets to plink away 69 times at their target or quarry. 

 

Note: By “military marksman” I am not referring to the skill level badge 

[Rye Miles #13621]

13 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

Lucky Lobbing 

 

I was asking myself “How is this ‘Marksmanship’?” When I came across this in the article:

What does it signify in terms of actual marksmanship? That’s a somewhat difficult question to answer as a lot of skill, engineering, and prep work—more than 1,500 hours, 
 

It’s a very interesting effort, but I don’t consider feats like this to be “marksmanship”.

I highly doubt a military marksman or a highly skilled hunter gets to plink away 69 times at their target or quarry. 

 

Note: By “military marksman” I am not referring to the skill level badge 

I get what you're saying but I still think it's pretty cool!

[Subdeacon Joe]

Hmmm...looks like 69 is the magic number.    Wind must have been almost nonexistent, or a steady blow.  If it was variable they might still be shooting.

 

I agree with Pat (Oh, the shame!) and like his term "Luck Lobbing."  Sort of like the Volley Sight settings on old military rifles.  No, a single soldier wasn't expected to be able to hit at 2,000 yards, but a half company firing at a fixed target, say a field gun, might be expected to get a hit or two on the crew.  Or to create a "beaten zone" through which infantry must advance.  

[Grass Range]

69 shots to hit the target? Marksmanship?

[Rye Miles #13621]

1 minute ago, Grass Range said:

69 shots to hit the target? Marksmanship?

4.4 miles???? I can’t even see half that far.🙄

[Pat Riot]

2 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

Hmmm...looks like 69 is the magic number.    Wind must have been almost nonexistent, or a steady blow.  If it was variable they might still be shooting.

 

I agree with Pat (Oh, the shame!) and like his term "Luck Lobbing."  Sort of like the Volley Sight settings on old military rifles.  No, a single soldier wasn't expected to be able to hit at 2,000 yards, but a half company firing at a fixed target, say a field gun, might be expected to get a hit or two on the crew.  Or to create a "beaten zone" through which infantry must advance.  

“Shame” huh? 
 

I recall reading an article in an old Shotgun News about the trials for accepting the .45-70 cartridge and the Trapdoor Springfield rifles. I recall they were “accurate to 1000 yards”. Then I read the details of the test conducted to make that claim. 
They were lobbing rounds at a sheets of plywood sized targets 1000 yard away. I don’t recall the actual dimensions but it was big. 

[Subdeacon Joe]

8 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

 

I recall reading an article in an old Shotgun News about the trials for accepting the .45-70

 

This? http://usarmorment.com/pdf/45-70.pdf

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

 

Marksmanship??  Not Hardly (Quote the Duke).  With that custom built rifle, and the computations provided, anyone could pull the trigger.  They didn't show the bracing under the rifle for the shot.   The shooter and the team all confirmed, the hit was not repeatable and was more "luck" than anything.  Interesting??  Sure.  Valuable??  Nah.

 

PLUS ONE for Rye Miles.  I couldn't see that target at over 4 miles and the target was 10 feet by 7 feet.

[irish ike, SASS #43615]

Billy Dixon, 1320 yards and hit an Indian on a horse in one shot. 45-90 or 50-90. He called it a  scratch shot.. AKA just plain luck.

[Subdeacon Joe]

45 minutes ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said:

Billy Dixon, 1320 yards and hit an Indian on a horse in one shot. 45-90 or 50-90. He called it a  scratch shot.. AKA just plain luck.

 

https://khall6548.wixsite.com/quigleyshootingassoc/how-far-will-a-sharps-rifle-shoot-m

[Pat Riot]

4 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

This? http://usarmorment.com/pdf/45-70.pdf

I believe so.  I guess I was off on the target size. I thought it was 4’x8’. It was 12’x12’ 

Then they made it even bigger. 
I’m pretty sure the goal, as you stated above, was to rate it’s volley fire capabilities. 
Thanks Joe. 

[Subdeacon Joe]

30 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

I believe so.  I guess I was off on the target size. I thought it was 4’x8’. It was 12’x12’ 

Then they made it even bigger. 
I’m pretty sure the goal, as you stated above, was to rate it’s volley fire capabilities. 
Thanks Joe. 

 

My pleasure.   I got to looking to see if I could find how effective long range volley fire really was .  I have yet to find anything definitive, but did find this interesting discussion:  https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/154590-volley-fire-vs-aimed-fire/