Happy 100th Birthday Jimmy Carter

[Sedalia Dave]

Carter, the nation's 39th president, has been a man of several firsts. He was the first U.S. president to be born in a hospital, was the first Naval Academy graduate to become president, and he was the first president to make a formal state visit to Sub-Saharan Africa, among other firsts. Now, Carter is the first U.S. president in history to make it to 100 years old.

 

Heck of a milestone.

Edited October 1 by Sedalia Dave

[Subdeacon Joe]

A GOOD man.   Devout, giving of himself,  was very active in Habitat for Humanity,  put in a lot of nails to help provide housing for the poor.

 

I think his time as POTUS suffered because he paid too much attention to details and didn't see the broad picture.

[Blackwater 53393]

A good man in a job he wasn’t equipped to deal with!

 

All in all, he’s led a good life!

[Sedalia Dave]

41 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

A GOOD man.   Devout, giving of himself,  was very active in Habitat for Humanity,  put in a lot of nails to help provide housing for the poor.

 

I think his time as POTUS suffered because he paid too much attention to details and didn't see the broad picture.

 

Looking back, I think Jimmy Carter was too honorable and honest for DC politics and his presidency suffered greatly as other took advantage.  

[Cypress Sun]

Also the only US President to actively physically work on a "Hot" nuclear reactor.

 

Happy Birthday President Carter.

 

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2023/0221/Profile-in-courage-When-Jimmy-Carter-helped-save-a-nuclear-reactor#:~:text=On Dec. 12, 1952, two human errors in quick succession

[John Barleycorn, SASS #76982]

56 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

A good man in a job he wasn’t equipped to deal with!

 

All in all, he’s led a good life!

Well put. 

[Whitey James]

His legacy was saved due to accomplishments AFTER his presidency. Goes to show you can't let failures define you. 

 

[Pat Riot]

I spent a few months of my life cruising the IO and Persian Gulf waiting for President Carter to make a decision on the hostages in Iran. 
I liked President Carter as a person. I always felt he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. 
 

Happy Birthday, President Carter. 

[SGT. M. F. QUINCANNON, #32999]

As president he was ineffectual and weak. As a man in his personal capacity I admire his consistency, post White House.

[Subdeacon Joe]

Carter, like Ford, was the victim of the times.  Or that's how I see it.  He was a reaction, or maybe rebound, president.  Our nation was reeling from the Viet Nam war, the resignation of a vice president, the OPEC embargo and resulting Oil Crisis, the Watergate Hearings, the impeachment and resignation of Nixon, with a non-elected vice president stepping up (And, for all his faults, I think Ford was the best choice for our nation.  He gave us a few years of breathing space), and the 1973 - 1975 recession.

 

Carter was our national "We're fed up with this garbage!" reaction to all of that.  Not that it wasn't close.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_United_States_presidential_election

538 members of the Electoral College 270 electoral votes needed to win
Turnout	54.8%[1]  1.4 pp

Nominee Jimmy Carter Gerald Ford   Party Democratic Republican Home state Georgia Michigan Running mate Walter Mondale Bob Dole Electoral vote 297 240[a] States carried 23 + DC 27 Popular vote 40,831,881 39,148,634 Percentage 50.1% 48.0%

Presidential election results map. Blue denotes states won by Carter/Mondale and red denotes those won by Ford/Dole. Pink is the electoral vote for Ronald Reagan by a Washington faithless elector. Numbers indicate electoral votes cast by each state and the District of Columbia.

[J-BAR #18287]

The Carter years of stagflation and high mortgage interest are hard memories for us.  A difficult time for a family facing the expenses of raising kids, to say nothing of the foreign policy problems.

I had to drive by missile silos on my way work every day.  Bad memories, took its toll on me.

 

I don't wish Mr. Carter ill, but it's hard to praise him.

 

God in his wisdom will be his judge.

[Rip Snorter]

Happenstance, talking to a Secret Service supervisor after Carter left office.  Carter did a lot of showboating - when he caried his own suitcases, they were empty.  Other things as well - until Brandon, he was the worst.  I do not wish him ill, but do hope he gets a just reward in the afterlife.

[Rye Miles #13621]

I remember the economy and how about the gas lines? I remember having to get gas on only certain days. He was a disaster as POTUS but that said he is basically a good man and has lived a good long life. 

[Subdeacon Joe]

22 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

I remember the economy and how about the gas lines? I remember having to get gas on only certain days.

 

That started before he was in office.  The OPEC embargo and First Oil Crisis were 1973 to  1975  Which led to the recession of '73 to  '75, which led to the insane inflation that Carter gets blamed for.  Putting all the blame on him is like putting all the blame for a house fire on someone who just walked into a house already ablaze.

[Cypress Sun]

33 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

I remember the economy and how about the gas lines? I remember having to get gas on only certain days. He was a disaster as POTUS but that said he is basically a good man and has lived a good long life. 

 

The joke running around back then was "A woman gave birth to an 8lb baby boy today while in a gas line. She wasn't pregnant when she got in line."

[Rye Miles #13621]

12 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

That started before he was in office.  The OPEC embargo and First Oil Crisis were 1973 to  1975  Which led to the recession of '73 to  '75, which led to the insane inflation that Carter gets blamed for.  Putting all the blame on him is like putting all the blame for a house fire on someone who just walked into a house already ablaze.

All I remember was gas lines when he was President, high interest rates and a terrible economy. It may have started before him but he sure didn’t help it at all which is why he was a one term president and Reagan slaughtered him!

Edited October 2 by Rye Miles #13621

[Subdeacon Joe]

16 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

All I remember was gas lines when he was President, high interest rates and a terrible economy. It may have started before him but he sure didn’t help it at all which is why he was a one term president and Reagan slaughtered him!

 

I remember Ford and his Whip Inflation Now" button as a slogan for the 1974 midterms as a response to the over 12% inflation rate.  His bandaid measures artificially forced the rate down to, I think,  about 8%, but it rebounded under Carter to a peak of just under 15%, mostly because of the 2nd Oil Crisis. 

 

True,  his inept handling of that and other foreign policy issues exacerbated it, but it wasn't all his making. 

Edited October 2 by Subdeacon Joe

[Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619]

Well, he wasn't a particularly good President, but then most of us never even made President in the first place. That takes some ability.

[Dirty Dan Dawkins]

Carter's problem as President was a trying to satisfy his human rights concerns and socialist sympathies, rather than being pragmatic during a continuing cold war and rise of the Islamic fundamentalist states.

I found the man to of generally been a fool during his presidency.

 

Edited October 2 by Dirty Dan Dawkins

[WOLFY]

He would’ve fared better if only he’d a delegated more (was my main take on his presidency).  

 

Happy 100th Birthday, President Jimmy Carter.   

[Will Kane]

I remember him as a weak president but a a good man married to a very gracious lady. I remember closing real estate loan transactions during his presidency, when the lender was getting 18 percent interest. I also remember Miss Lillian, Billy and Amy. 

[Rye Miles #13621]

Remember Billy Beer?? 🙄😂 

[Cypress Sun]

34 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Remember Billy Beer?? 🙄😂 

 

I do, it's somewhat collectable now.

 

Is a can of Billy Beer worth anything?

A can of Billy Beer is worth something, but the value is highly dependent on the condition of the can and its availability in relation to other collectible items. A Billy Beer can in “mint condition” can fetch anywhere from $50.

00 to over $150. 00 depending on the uniqueness and rarity. Billy Beer cans from the late 1970’s and early 1980’s were made with mostly flat tops instead of the modern pop-top style and are therefore more sought after by collectors.

Generally, the older and more rare the can is, the more it is worth to a collector.

Is Billy Beer collectible?

Billy Beer is not typically considered collectible by collectors. It was first brewed by Falls City Brewing back in 1977 and was only brewed from 1977 to 1978. There were only some limited runs of the beer and it was only widely distributed in the United States.

After the initial limited run, Billy Beer was only produced for a short amount of time in the early 1980s and again in the late 1990s. Since then, it is only sporadically produced for limited amounts of time.

Because it is not consistently produced and has not been around for an extended period of time, it is not widely collected. Additionally, it has a low value on the collectible market and is not a particularly valuable item.

Therefore, while some people may have a few cans of Billy Beer in their home, it is not typically a collectible item.

What beer cans are valuable?

Some beer cans are unique enough that they can be extremely valuable. Some of the most sought-after cans are rare and hard to come by, and people are willing to pay a high price to get them. Cans from limited edition runs and brewery-sponsored promotions can be worth more if they offer something unique or special about their design.

For example, cans featuring art work by well-known artists, limited colors, intricate colors, or out of print cans can often fetch a higher price. Cans from small breweries, foreign countries, and older breweries can also be sought after by collectors.

Some of the most valuable cans show up on auction sites and can fetch tens of thousands of dollars.

What is a can of unopened Billy Beer worth?

The value of an unopened can of Billy Beer depends on the can’s condition, rarity and the location of the seller. Generally speaking, an unopened can of Billy Beer (first produced in 1977) can be worth anywhere in the range of $5-$50.

Based on evaluations from seasoned beer can collectors, an unopened can of Billy Beer with the complete original packaging can be worth up to $200 or more. However, since the beer was produced in large quantities, most cans are not considered to be particularly rare.

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[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

Worst President Ever.

Fairly decent person.

 

I think both of these are fair assessments.

[Rye Miles #13621]

34 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

Worst President Ever.

Fairly decent person.

 

I think both of these are fair assessments.

He was the worst until this fool in office now!!! JMHO 

[Subdeacon Joe]

2 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

Worst President Ever.

Fairly decent person.

 

I think both of these are fair assessments.

 

I don't know.   Grant,  Polk, and Buchanan were probably worse. Nixon opening up to China has led to the situation with Xi.  LBJ gave us the welfare state.   

 

 

[Rye Miles #13621]

1 hour ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

I don't know.   Grant,  Polk, and Buchanan were probably worse. Nixon opening up to China has led to the situation with Xi.  LBJ gave us the welfare state.   

 

 

Yep I agree , maybe not the worst but Carter is in that group as well as the current one!

[Subdeacon Joe]

2 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Yep I agree , maybe not the worst but Carter is in that group as well as the current one!

Bottom third anyway.  

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

6 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Yep I agree , maybe not the worst but Carter is in that group as well as the current one!

 

Okay, I suppose this a somewhat subjective assessment.   But I'll be willing to give the proviso, "Worst of the 20th Century."

As far as some of the others go....

Grant, I think, get's a raw deal.   He wasn't a great president, but he wasn't a horrible one either.   A lot of things went wrong in his administration, but I am not sure most of it was his fault.   He's a solid "mediocre" in my book, much like most presidents.

Polk I really don't know much about, to be honest.   He was one in a long line of mediocrity after Jackson and before Lincoln,

Buchannan, yeah, he was very innefective.

LBJ...   Not a good President.   One of the worst?   It is debatable.

Nixon.   Nixon again, get's a bad wrap, and any good he did as President is (rightly) overshadowed by the way his tenure ended.    That being said, I don't blame him for our present troubles with China.   Those, I lay at the feet of Carter for switching recognition from Taiwan to the Communists.  Instead of doing this, he should have admitted to reality that there are two Chinas, recognized both of them, and specifically "unrecognized" the claims that they made to each other's territory and encouraged them to do the same.    

Edited October 3 by H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619

[watab kid]

while i considered him one f the worst presidents in history , ive always believed him to be a good man , i commend all the good he has done in his life , im pleased to see he has made 100 years , i pray he lives longer in some health yet i think he has been in hospice for a year , i will add i lived the carter years as well as LBJ , and i think that allows me to have the above opinions , i respect those that see it differently tho , 

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

On 10/3/2024 at 10:35 AM, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

I don't know.   Grant,  Polk, and Buchanan were probably worse. Nixon opening up to China has led to the situation with Xi.  LBJ gave us the welfare state.   

 

Pierce

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

Jimmy’s mother was a nurse. He was the first president born in a hospital.

[Tex Jones, SASS 2263]

From a Wikipedia article:  "Carter blamed his loss in the 1980 U.S. presidential election mainly on his failure to secure the release of the hostages. The American hostages were released the day of Ronald Reagan's inauguration.^[4]".

[watab kid]

13 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

Pierce

i was talking my lifetime , but hey , i cant argue with ya on these