Sedalia Dave Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Seems somebody took a tip from hollyweird. Pagers explode across Lebanon in attack targeting Hezbollah members 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Cool 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Lizard Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Years ago, did they not have trouble cell phones doing same thing???? Texas Lizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 It’s BRILLIANT!!! But HOW?? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Yeah, that's kind of scary, when you think of it. It's unlikely Mossad was able to plant charges in all those devices, since the user would be keeping it on themselves. The alternative theory is that Mossad figured out a way to make an ordinary pager or phone go BOOM! That's frightening, given the criminal doings by hackers on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 2 minutes ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said: Yeah, that's kind of scary, when you think of it. It's unlikely Mossad was able to plant charges in all those devices, since the user would be keeping it on themselves. The alternative theory is that Mossad figured out a way to make an ordinary pager or phone go BOOM! That's frightening, given the criminal doings by hackers on the internet. I think these are a new generation of pagers and a state actor was able to insert a small powerful explosive charge into them either during manufacture or between the manufacturer and the seller. This explosive has sat dormant for who knows how long. Possibly years. Adding the necessary circuitry isn't that hard if you have the resources of a state level actor. There could be thousands of pagers that were modified to explode that were not activated because the user was not considered a member of Hezbollah. Reports I have read is that the pagers played an odd tune before exploding. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 5 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Reports I have read is that the pagers played an odd tune before exploding. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 29 minutes ago, Texas Lizard said: Years ago, did they not have trouble cell phones doing same thing???? Texas Lizard Phone Bomb Kills Terrorist Yahya Ayyash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, Sedalia Dave said: I think these are a new generation of pagers and a state actor was able to insert a small powerful explosive charge into them either during manufacture or between the manufacturer and the seller. This explosive has sat dormant for who knows how long. Possibly years. Adding the necessary circuitry isn't that hard if you have the resources of a state level actor. There could be thousands of pagers that were modified to explode that were not activated because the user was not considered a member of Hezbollah. Reports I have read is that the pagers played an odd tune before exploding. The logistics of that are beyond comprehension! Maybe whoever obtained the pagers for them was a mole? (Heres our shipment of pagers Abdul. Make sure everyone gets one!”) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Absolutely BRILLIANT!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 (edited) Imagine, dialing up the number for the remote trigger on your hidden bomb and when you hit “call” your cell phone blows your head off!! Edited September 17 by Blackwater 53393 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 (edited) Edited September 17 by Sedalia Dave 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Probably overheated the batteries possibly by sending a broadcast page with a huge stream of numbers. The pager goes into overdrive capturing the number stream and the battery overheats and explodes. That’s just a guess. I have no idea if it’s possible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 If that's the case, I suspect we're going to see more folks spontaneously explode! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Bettin' there's gonna be a bunch of pagers getting chucked. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said: Bettin' there's gonna be a bunch of pagers getting chucked. Or at least taken apart for a looksee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kloehr Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I'm leaning towards explosives. NiCad batteries can certainly get hot enough to scorch things, LiIon can burn aggressively if punctured and wet. I'm seeing reports of explosions. Not scorching, not aggressive burning, explosions. The supply chain seems to have been opportunistically appropriated. Hezbollah recently moved down-tech, moving away from cell phones as the organization learned it was both not secure and was tracked. A mass move to pagers was part of this shift. There are recent public speeches on this topic. I think a few folks who were part of this might die very soon, very few would have access to a good distribution list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 (edited) 36 minutes ago, John Kloehr said: I'm leaning towards explosives. NiCad batteries can certainly get hot enough to scorch things, LiIon can burn aggressively if punctured and wet. I'm seeing reports of explosions. Not scorching, not aggressive burning, explosions. The supply chain seems to have been opportunistically appropriated. Hezbollah recently moved down-tech, moving away from cell phones as the organization learned it was both not secure and was tracked. A mass move to pagers was part of this shift. There are recent public speeches on this topic. I think a few folks who were part of this might die very soon, very few would have access to a good distribution list. I doubt there was a distro list. I suspect that a state actor found a way to modify tens of thousands of modified pagers into the supply stream. Then they matched pager numbers to known terrorists. Lebanon is already telling all its citizens to throw away their pagers. For a while at least Hezbollah's communication network has been effectively disabled. The Terrorists already have a healthy distrust of cell phones and now the only other means of rapid communication within their organization has not only been shown to be vulnerable, it has effectively been eliminated until they can procure and thoroughly inspect thousands of new pagers. Until today Hezbollah believed that using pagers was reasonably safe. Now they are aware that even pagers can be exploited and used against them in more ways than one. Edited September 18 by Sedalia Dave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 If they come here and do the same thing with smart phones we'll lose 90% of our under 25 year old population. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole Sam Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 10 hours ago, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said: It’s BRILLIANT!!! But HOW?? Cell phones can be GPS tracked. Pagers, at least one way pagers, cannot. Their mistake was replacing all of their cell phones with pagers at the same time and getting all the pagers from the same company in Taiwan. Mossad found out and paid the pager company an undisclosed sum to put explosives in all of the pagers. One would think with tens of thousands of them modified in this way that at some point someone would notice. It is possible someone DID find out and all of the pagers were detonated before word could get around. There is no special significance to the time chosen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: If they come here and do the same thing with smart phones we'll lose 90 100% of our under 25 year old population. Fixed it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 15 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: Slim Whitman rules! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I wouldn't be surprised if the person who 'thought up and originated' this plan may have gotten the idea from one of the 'Road Runner/Coyote' cartoons. It does sound like something the Coyote would do and backfire on him. ..........Widder 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 11 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: If they come here and do the same thing with smart phones we'll lose 90% of our under 25 year old population. I'd guess that it would be closer to 90% of our population period. I see smartphone zombies of all ages everywhere. I especially see them, old AND young at my gym. They're sitting on a piece of equipment I want to use, fiddling on their phones instead of actually working out. I see them in restaurants. Groups of people, small and large, sometimes entire families, sitting together, ALL on their smartphones instead of enjoying each other's company. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 well IF , I would have spent that much time and effort I would have lit em all off at once CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) Helluva powerful explosive, the mini grenade must also have some sort of shrapnel. Edited September 18 by Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 21 hours ago, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said: It’s BRILLIANT!!! But HOW?? 2750 injured, with a Gold Apollo AR -924 pager made in Taiwan , Mossad injected the Lithium batteries with Pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN) , they are not saying how they got them to detonate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 So... Pagers are now more dangerous than AR15s? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Only the assault pagers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Today it's walkie-talkies. Soon it will be tin cans and string. 😉 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 18 hours ago, John Kloehr said: I'm leaning towards explosives. NiCad batteries can certainly get hot enough to scorch things, LiIon can burn aggressively if punctured and wet. I'm seeing reports of explosions. Not scorching, not aggressive burning, explosions. The supply chain seems to have been opportunistically appropriated. Hezbollah recently moved down-tech, moving away from cell phones as the organization learned it was both not secure and was tracked. A mass move to pagers was part of this shift. There are recent public speeches on this topic. I think a few folks who were part of this might die very soon, very few would have access to a good distribution list. PETN will do that fun stuff you would be shocked to see some of what we used In Afghanistan and Iraq . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 One report that I read said that they made the pagers ring several times before detonating them. That way the people who set them on a near-by table or something would go to get the pager and be in closer proximity when it exploded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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