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Yeah, that's kind of scary, when you think of it.  It's unlikely Mossad was able to plant charges in all those devices, since the user would be keeping it on themselves. The alternative theory is that Mossad figured out a way to make an ordinary pager or phone go BOOM! 

 

That's frightening, given the criminal doings by hackers on the internet.  

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2 minutes ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

Yeah, that's kind of scary, when you think of it.  It's unlikely Mossad was able to plant charges in all those devices, since the user would be keeping it on themselves. The alternative theory is that Mossad figured out a way to make an ordinary pager or phone go BOOM! 

 

That's frightening, given the criminal doings by hackers on the internet.  

 

I think these are a new generation of pagers and a state actor was able to insert a small powerful explosive charge into them either during manufacture or between the manufacturer and the seller. This explosive has sat dormant for who knows how long. Possibly years. :o 

Adding the necessary circuitry isn't that hard if you have the resources of a state level actor.

 

There could be thousands of pagers that were modified to explode that were not activated because the user was not considered a member of Hezbollah.

 

Reports I have read is that the pagers played an odd tune before exploding.

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1 hour ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 

I think these are a new generation of pagers and a state actor was able to insert a small powerful explosive charge into them either during manufacture or between the manufacturer and the seller. This explosive has sat dormant for who knows how long. Possibly years. :o 

Adding the necessary circuitry isn't that hard if you have the resources of a state level actor.

 

There could be thousands of pagers that were modified to explode that were not activated because the user was not considered a member of Hezbollah.

 

Reports I have read is that the pagers played an odd tune before exploding.

The logistics of that are beyond comprehension!

Maybe whoever obtained the pagers for them was a mole?

(Heres our shipment of pagers Abdul. Make sure everyone gets one!”)

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Imagine, dialing up the number for the remote trigger on your hidden bomb and when you hit “call” your cell phone blows your head off!!

 

 

 

 

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Probably overheated the batteries possibly by sending a broadcast page with a huge stream of numbers. The pager goes into overdrive capturing the number stream and the battery overheats and explodes. 
 

That’s just a guess. I have no idea if it’s possible. 

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If that's the case, I suspect we're going to see more folks spontaneously explode!

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I'm leaning towards explosives. NiCad batteries can certainly get hot enough to scorch things, LiIon can burn aggressively if punctured and wet.

 

I'm seeing reports of explosions. Not scorching, not aggressive burning, explosions. The supply chain  seems to have been opportunistically appropriated.

 

Hezbollah recently moved down-tech, moving away from cell phones as the organization learned it was both not secure and was tracked. A mass move to pagers was part of this shift. There are recent public speeches on this topic. 

 

I think a few folks who were part of this might die very soon, very few would have access to a good distribution  list.

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36 minutes ago, John Kloehr said:

I'm leaning towards explosives. NiCad batteries can certainly get hot enough to scorch things, LiIon can burn aggressively if punctured and wet.

 

I'm seeing reports of explosions. Not scorching, not aggressive burning, explosions. The supply chain  seems to have been opportunistically appropriated.

 

Hezbollah recently moved down-tech, moving away from cell phones as the organization learned it was both not secure and was tracked. A mass move to pagers was part of this shift. There are recent public speeches on this topic. 

 

I think a few folks who were part of this might die very soon, very few would have access to a good distribution  list.

 

I doubt there was a distro list.  I suspect that a state actor found a way to modify tens of thousands of  modified pagers into the supply stream. Then they matched pager numbers to known terrorists. 

 

Lebanon is already telling all its citizens to throw away their pagers. 

 

For a while at least Hezbollah's communication network has been effectively disabled. The Terrorists already have a healthy distrust of cell phones and now the only other means of rapid communication within their organization has not only been shown to be vulnerable, it has effectively been eliminated until they can procure and thoroughly inspect thousands of new pagers. 

 

Until today Hezbollah believed that using pagers was reasonably safe. Now they are aware that even pagers can be exploited and used against them in more ways than one.

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10 hours ago, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said:

It’s BRILLIANT!!!

But HOW??

Cell phones can be GPS tracked.  Pagers, at least one way pagers, cannot.  Their mistake was replacing all of their cell phones with pagers at the same time and getting all the pagers from the same company in Taiwan.  Mossad found out and paid the pager company an undisclosed sum to put explosives in all of the pagers.

One would think with tens of thousands of them modified in this way that at some point someone would notice.  It is possible someone DID find out and all of the pagers were detonated before word could get around.  There is no special significance to the time chosen.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the person who 'thought up and originated' this plan may have gotten the idea from

one of the 'Road Runner/Coyote' cartoons.     It does sound like something the Coyote would do and backfire

on him.

 

..........Widder

 

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11 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

If they come here and do the same thing with smart phones we'll lose 90% of our under 25 year old population.

I'd guess that it would be closer to 90% of our population period. I see smartphone zombies of all ages everywhere. I especially see them, old AND young at my gym. They're sitting on a piece of equipment I want to use, fiddling on their phones instead of actually working out. :angry:

I see them in restaurants. Groups of people, small and large, sometimes entire families, sitting together, ALL on their smartphones instead of enjoying each other's company.:wacko:

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So...

 

Pagers are now more dangerous than AR15s? ;)

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18 hours ago, John Kloehr said:

I'm leaning towards explosives. NiCad batteries can certainly get hot enough to scorch things, LiIon can burn aggressively if punctured and wet.

 

I'm seeing reports of explosions. Not scorching, not aggressive burning, explosions. The supply chain  seems to have been opportunistically appropriated.

 

Hezbollah recently moved down-tech, moving away from cell phones as the organization learned it was both not secure and was tracked. A mass move to pagers was part of this shift. There are recent public speeches on this topic. 

 

I think a few folks who were part of this might die very soon, very few would have access to a good distribution  list.

 

PETN will do that fun stuff you would be shocked to see some of what we used In Afghanistan and Iraq .

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One report that I read said that they made the pagers ring several times before detonating them.  That way the people who set them on a near-by table or something would go to get the pager and be in closer proximity when it exploded. 

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