Sedalia Dave Posted Wednesday at 11:11 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:11 PM NONE of these sailors are deserving of being called Chief. How Navy chiefs conspired to get themselves illegal warship Wi-Fi The entire lot of them should have been court martialed and given an Other Than Honorable Discharge. Let the rest of the fleet know this type of behavior will not be tolerated and that the punishment for being this stupid will be swift and severe. 3 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted Thursday at 02:59 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:59 AM I am not a veteran. Such shenanigans by senior non-coms would make me look for other career paths. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted Thursday at 03:19 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:19 AM im not navy but my FIL was back when the nautalus was under the pole , i dont think that would have been acceptible but as i said im not navy , ill ask my BIL he was Carrere navy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caprock Kid Posted Thursday at 04:01 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:01 AM What these people failed to realize is just how much intel they gave up to the Russian and Chinese trawlers that pulled SIGINT from this unprotected network. Really bad Operations Security (OPSEC) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted Thursday at 04:52 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:52 AM yes , loose lips sink ships , but we have forgotten that the world is a dangerous place it seems , i think a reminder is just around the corner tho , we have let them in its just a matter of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted Thursday at 01:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:04 PM Every Chief aboard that ship deserved punishment. Sr. Chief Marerro deserves a bit of time in Leavenworth or another similar facility. When I was in the Navy and I first got to my ship we had no “command” master chiefs or senior chiefs. After being aboard nearly a year and a half we got a Command Master Chief. What a piece of work that SOB was. Within a week of being aboard the attitudes and actions of the entirety of our E-7s and E-8’s went sour. Soon after that the rest of the ship became similarly afflicted. I won’t bore you with details. Eventually it was discovered that there was a Chief’s Mess gambling ring. Within 8 months of being aboard our Command Master Chief was shown the door. He was not replaced. I recall rumors of Chief’s Mess shenanigans aboard other ships. From gambling rings to sneaking hookers aboard. I am not sure why this occurred, probably the thinking that “I am a Chief, appointed by Congress, I cannot be demoted so I will do as I please!” 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted Thursday at 02:57 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 02:57 PM In my 20 years of naval service I only saw one Command Master Chief (CMC) get relived and he more than deserved it. The Leading Chief of the Quality Assurance department (QA LCPO) was an alcoholic and was often drunk on duty. The CMC was covering for him. Several enlisted personnel had been anonymously reporting the problem via the CO's Suggestion box. Well the CMC was screening the notes put into the suggestion box and hiding the problem from the skipper. Eventually someone slipped letters under the doors for the CO and XO informing them that the next letters would be mailed to the wing commander. That definitely got the CO's attention and the next day the CMC and QA LCPO were conspicuously absent. The following day at Quarters the CO announced that effectively immediately the CMC had been relieved of his duties. No mention of the QA LCPO was made but he was never seen again in the squadron spaces. All this happened while I was on a 6 month deployment. When i returned I was put in charge of QA by default. Didn't take long to figure out that the squadron QA department was a shambles and that we were going to fail the Wing inspection coming up in 30 days. I was ordered to make sure we passed. Well there was no way I could make that happen without falsifying inspection records and that was something I refused to do. The Maintenance Officer was pretty upset when we failed and I took the fall for the failures in QA even though they happened while I was on deployment. Still rather pissed about it as that made sure I would never make CPO during the remainder of my career. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted Thursday at 05:37 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:37 PM 2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: The Maintenance Officer was pretty upset when we failed and I took the fall for the failures in QA even though they happened while I was on deployment. Still rather pissed about it as that made sure I would never make CPO during the remainder of my career. I’m sorry the actions of others denied you your promotions. Been there, lived that at a job outside the military. Twenty years of service is still something to be very proud of. Thank you for your efforts and time in the Navy. There were 3 other ships in the Virginia Class of Cruisers. The Arkansas, Mississippi, Texas and the Virginia, my ship. I was the aft missile launcher captain. My launcher was always 100%. If not it wasn’t long until she was. Our forward launcher crew liked to smoke and coke their way through the day. Me and my crew had to go to the forward launcher and help them get their launcher squared away. That really ticked me off, but we did it. One day the Mississippi moored next to us, which I thought was weird until my Chief informed me that I was to go aboard and evaluate their two Mk 26 launchers and see what I could do about getting them up and battle ready. Two of my friends were aboard that ship on their launcher crew. By the time I got done I lost two friends. Very lazy friends. The ship got underway and went south for combat exercises. They finally got their “Battle E” ribbons for gunnery and missile exercises. About 2 months later my Chief came to me and told me the Mississippi had both launchers down and needed help. He told me that he told them to pound sand and fix their own mess. I bought him a few beers at our next Liberty port. It’s usually a thankless job when you have to fix other people’s mistakes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted Thursday at 06:23 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 06:23 PM 45 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: Twenty years of service is still something to be very proud of. Thank you for your efforts and time in the Navy. Thanks By far the smartest thing I ever did or ever will do was stay in the military until retirement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Lizard Posted Thursday at 06:52 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:52 PM 26 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Thanks By far the smartest thing I ever did or ever will do was stay in the military until retirement. My dad tried to get to check out the Navy...Told him I did not like boats....He said they are ships...I do not care, it went on the ocean...I think I up set him a little...Went Air Force.... Texas Lizard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted Thursday at 07:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:38 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Pat Riot said: It’s usually a thankless job when you have to fix other people’s mistakes. Not only that, somehow YOU usually wind up getting blamed for something they did too. I can't count the times I got blamed for and had to fix something somebody else did on my route. While I was on VACATION! Once I had to cut my vacation short because I got called back to work to fix what my replacement had screwed up, then get yelled at for getting overtime to do it. Edited Thursday at 07:42 PM by Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted Friday at 02:43 AM Share Posted Friday at 02:43 AM Malfeasance & stupidity isn't anything new. I saw my share in my short enlistment in the early '70s. I had two 1st Class Petty Officers over me drummed out of the Navy over alcohol & drug abuse. As a PO2, I was left in charge of our Division. 2 new PO1s were transferred aboard shortly before we returned to the gun line in 1973. In a bit of a humorous faux pax on their part I was kept in charge of the Division until "you tell me they're ready to take over". During that time we underwent a Commodore's Inspection and the ship getting our "Gold" Battle "E" (5 "E"s in a row) was contingent on our Department making grade. During the inspection the inspectors couldn't find an error in my records, but did about 5 years previous, so they could justify their "we don't give anyone 100% attitude". I got a 99% and that put us over the top for the Gold "E". And it wasn't confined to the enlisted ranks... We had a new captain transfer onboard while I was on leave and the ship transited to Pearl as her new home port. As the person in charge of the petty cash fund on board, it was my job to make sure all expenditures were in accordance with Navy Regs. The new Captain took it upon himself to order personal stationary, (to which he's entitled) from a printer in Honolulu,, but he then asked me to reimburse him. I told him I couldn't as Navy Regs didn't allow me to buy something that available thru the Navy Supply system. Such stationary is available from the Naval Printing Office in Philadelphia, PA... I ordered him new stationary, (much nicer than what he'd bought). About 8 years ago I was delivering an air squadron's spare parts in Norfolk, to the USS Bush where they were being transferred from the USS Reagan from Washington state. As the 2nd of 3 truck loads of parts, I finally drove out onto the pier to get unloaded. There was a 2nd Class PO from the ship's company running the forklift to unload my trailer. After the 2nd time he ran his forks into the rear end of my trailer, not inside, but hitting the stainless back end of the trailer, I walked up to him and told him that was "my" trailer, not some company POS, I was your exact grade and rating when I was in the Navy, have a little respect for my property. After hitting it for the 3rd time I stepped up and asked if he knew the difference between a couple of perverted types. When he looked at me like he didn't know, I told him it was (insert favored naval expletive here) "depth perception".. and yours (insert favored naval expletive here) sucks!" Hereupon I felt my right shoulder being grabbed and a deep voice telling me... "we can't talk to our sailors like that anymore!" I replied that maybe that was "the trouble with the (insert favored naval expletive here) Navy nowadays." And turned to see who had grabbed me. It was the Supply Chief from the ship's company. As I looked at him, I asked what was he doing on the pier, and why wasn't he up on the flight deck with a coffee cup in hand and leaving his Petty Officers and sailors to do their job, without his interference, and that he wasn't doing anything but making them nervous, I saw him stiffen and come to Attention. I then looked over my left shoulder to see the Squadron Commander and his adjutant approaching. As he did, he asked, "gentlemen, is there a problem here?" I quickly told him no, just a couple of sailor's discussing various means of effective communication. Whereupon the CDR turned to his adjutant and said, "there's nothing for us to see here" and turned away. The forklift operator didn't run into my trailer again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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