Man Handled DUI CheckPoint Like A Boss

[Widder, SASS #59054]

SJ,

Thanks for posting those videos.  I enjoyed them and I am glad they are out there.

 

..........Widder

 

[Major Hazzard, SASS #23254]

Never mind

Edited September 4 by Major Hazzard, SASS #23254

[Major Hazzard, SASS #23254]

 

 

6 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

I don't see him as being an AH. Being brus, terse, whatever,  isn't being an AH.

Did he insult the deputy?  No.

Did he belittle the deputy? No.

Did he make any disparaging remarks?  No.

Did he refuse to display ID?  No.

 

Could he have been less abrupt?  Yes.  But so could the deputy. 

He pretty much echoed the attitude of the deputy.  

 

 

I don't believe I could disagree more.  No further comment.

Edited September 4 by Major Hazzard, SASS #23254

[Father Kit Cool Gun Garth]

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Edited September 5 by Father Kit Cool Gun Garth

[Father Kit Cool Gun Garth]

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Edited September 5 by Father Kit Cool Gun Garth

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

On 9/3/2024 at 2:51 PM, John Kloehr said:

First, no longer a DUI checkpoint, it was a vehicle safety inspection. License, registration, insurance, tire tread, taillights, turn signals, driver coherence.

Third, they put a sticker on the windshield good for a year; not really a full free pass but current stickers did get verified and released from the line.

Truck drivers have to deal with this every day. Simply driving a Commercial Vehicle means that you can be pulled over, whether at a Weigh Station, Rest Area, or just driving on the road for inspection. 

a "quick" inspection will take at least a half hour. If the Officer wants to perform a HazMat Inspection, (I carried Compressed Gasses, Oxygen, Acetylene, Nitrogen, Helium, etc, which are considered HazMat), it can take significantly longer. 

While a PITA, I never had a problem with them. They are done for safety reasons, and a vehicle 65 ft. long weighing 80,000 lbs can do some major damage if it's not in good mechanical order. 

I'm not trying to say that it's the same thing at all, but it's out there, and as a retired truck driver, I'm glad it is. 

[watab kid]

to the OP - he sounds like a lawyer to me , personally i think DUI checkpoints should be illegals' , not that i dont understand the reasoning behind them , i just think they are unconstitutional , follow those you suspect and pull them over with cause - dont stop all of the traffic or selected few to randomly find one 

[Chicken Rustler, SASS #26680]

I was surprised some people here think these random stops are ok.

If you don't believe banning all guns just in case you might prevent a shooting is a good idea, then how do you convince yourself to support stopping everybody in a car just in case you might prevent a wreck?

[Gracos Kid]

Wonder how many of you would flash your lights to alert oncoming traffic that a parked LEO was up ahead?   When you have no idea what lookout may have been posted for a serious offender and now you have just helped him avoid detection......

[irish ike, SASS #43615]

The guy did what he was legally required to do.

He does not have to answer any questions

He does not have to roll his window down, no law on the books anywhere for that.

He does not have to tell them where he's been or where he's going.

He does not have to tell them if he's been drinking.

Chewing gum is now considered a "suspicious" act by the driver. Thats just funny.

Many of these check points are the result of getting Federal grants. So its let's go spend some Federal money and get some OT pay!

 

The Border Patrol stops are even worse.

[Alpo]

2 hours ago, Gracos Kid said:

Wonder how many of you would flash your lights to alert oncoming traffic that a parked LEO was up ahead?   When you have no idea what lookout may have been posted for a serious offender and now you have just helped him avoid detection......

So when the bolo is looking for a black male, muscular, with a beard, and a mohawk. Last seen wearing feather earrings, lots of gold chains, a vest, no shirt, and camouflage trousers. Driving a gray and red Chevrolet van.

 

And Mr T saw me blink my lights, and therefore slowed down from 85 to the legal 60 mph, and because he was now driving the speed limit the police did not see him?

 

 

[Subdeacon Joe]

3 hours ago, Gracos Kid said:

Wonder how many of you would flash your lights to alert oncoming traffic that a parked LEO was up ahead?   When you have no idea what lookout may have been posted for a serious offender and now you have just helped him avoid detection......

 

 

 

First time I've heard of that.  I thought flashing your lights at oncoming was the universal signal for "Turn off your effin' brights, moron."

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

3 hours ago, Gracos Kid said:

Wonder how many of you would flash your lights to alert oncoming traffic that a parked LEO was up ahead?   When you have no idea what lookout may have been posted for a serious offender and now you have just helped him avoid detection......

 

6 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

First time I've heard of that.  I thought flashing your lights at oncoming was the universal signal for "Turn off your effin' brights, moron."

Too many vehicles have Daytime Running Lights for that to matter anymore, but the flashing lights three times is a long standing "Police ahead" signal. Not use so much today as it used to be.

[Cypress Sun]

1 hour ago, Alpo said:

So when the bolo is looking for a black male, muscular, with a beard, and a mohawk. Last seen wearing feather earrings, lots of gold chains, a vest, no shirt, and camouflage trousers. Driving a gray and red Chevrolet van.

 

And Mr T saw me blink my lights, and therefore slowed down from 85 to the legal 60 mph, and because he was now driving the speed limit the police did not see him?

 

 

 

I pity the fool.

 

9 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

 

Too many vehicles have Daytime Running Lights for that to matter anymore, but the flashing lights three times is a long standing "Police ahead" signal. Not use so much today as it used to be.

 

I know someone that still alerts other drivers with the flashing headlights method.

[Widder, SASS #59054]

I've used the 'flash the bright lights' to oncoming traffic to indicate 'approach with caution'.    Sometimes, it has been

because of a speed check ahead.   BUT, mostly its used to warn the oncoming traffic they are approaching an area

that is unusually congested or an accident  is ahead.      However it may be intended, the traffic slows down, even if they

are within the speed limits.

 

..........Widder

 

[John Kloehr]

Flash the brights 3 times is also a signal around here to go ahead and make that left turn in front of me...

 

For accidents, backups, or other clear hazards, I run my emergency flashers for a 1/4 mile or so.

[Subdeacon Joe]

3 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

 

Too many vehicles have Daytime Running Lights for that to matter anymore, but the flashing lights three times is a long standing "Police ahead" signal. Not use so much today as it used to be.

 

As I said, first time I've heard of it.   From other comments it seems to be used for so many things as to be meaningless.  

[MizPete]

Again, IDK.  Not long after BabyGirl married SIL, they went with us to FLA to race toy airplanes.  After hours, we went to the dog races, where we each got 20$ cash money & the goal was to make enough to buy beer, at which we were all pretty good.  On the way home, there was a stop.  If the cop had opened any door of the van, somebody would have fallen out.  We still have the "thank you for being a safe driver" key chains they gave us.

[Father Kit Cool Gun Garth]

I have, and still flash headlights for high beams for ongoing traffic, but rarely to warn others about LEO'S.
One other lost art is when a trucker leaves their turn signal on after changing lanes.
After you pass them and get in front of them, turn your own signal on and off repeatedly and soon the driver will not only turn his signal off,  but will flash his headlights in appreciation.

[Alpo]

I taught my son-in-law - I was really amazed that he didn't know this - that when you were being passed by a long vehicle, such as a semi or maybe somebody pulling a trailer, when they get far enough in front of you that it's safe for them to get over you blink your lights at them. They see that in their mirror and know that it's safe to pull over in the right hand lane.

 

The man was 30 years old and he had never heard that.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

1 hour ago, Father Kit Cool Gun Garth said:

I have, and still flash headlights for high beams for ongoing traffic, but rarely to warn others about LEO'S.
One other lost art is when a trucker leaves their turn signal on after changing lanes.
After you pass them and get in front of them, turn your own signal on and off repeatedly and soon the driver will not only turn his signal off,  but will flash his headlights in appreciation.

I really hate people with their high beams on, especially when they have those cheap, blue tinted LEDs. They get 2 flashes with the high beams, and if that doesn't do it, (and there's no other traffic on their side), they get the full Portable Sun. What's that you ask, THIS:

They usually get the message. 

As for trucker's turn signals, most of them don't get it anymore. 

24 minutes ago, Alpo said:

when you were being passed by a long vehicle, such as a semi or maybe somebody pulling a trailer, when they get far enough in front of you that it's safe for them to get over you blink your lights at them. They see that in their mirror and know that it's safe to pull over in the right hand lane.

Another lost consideration. The last few years I was driving, less than half of the other truck drivers on the road seemed to recognize that. Many older drivers retiring, many newer drivers not even from here. Lots of Russian and Ukrainians. Many don't even speak english. Most don't understand that when you're done fueling, MOVE FORWARD so that the next guy can fuel.

[Subdeacon Joe]

40 minutes ago, Alpo said:

that when you were being passed by a long vehicle, such as a semi or maybe somebody pulling a trailer, when they get far enough in front of you that it's safe for them to get over you blink your lights at them

 

Also,  watch their mirror.  When they are clear and you see them looking at you, that's when you flash your lights.  

 

And if you pass one and they flash you in, use your lights to thank them.   

[John Kloehr]

47 minutes ago, Alpo said:

I taught my son-in-law - I was really amazed that he didn't know this - that when you were being passed by a long vehicle, such as a semi or maybe somebody pulling a trailer, when they get far enough in front of you that it's safe for them to get over you blink your lights at them. They see that in their mirror and know that it's safe to pull over in the right hand lane.

 

12 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

I really hate people with their high beams on...

 

As for trucker's turn signals, most of them don't get it anymore. 

Another lost consideration. The last few years I was driving, less than half of the other truck drivers on the road seemed to recognize that. Many older drivers retiring, many newer drivers not even from here. Lots of Russian and Ukrainians. Many don't even speak english. Most don't understand that when you're done fueling, MOVE FORWARD so that the next guy can fuel.

My dad taught to to dim my lights a couple times for the signals, not high beams. Or if daylight, to activate them a couple (low beam) flashes. Not high beams.

 

He also got taught this in Canada where lights needed to always be on, but many truck driver's here did the light dim or low beam light flash among each other.

 

These new drivers? They don't have a clue, neither do most "skateboard" drivers sharing the road with trucks.

Edited September 7 by John Kloehr

[John Kloehr]

4 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

Also,  watch their mirror.  When they are clear and you see them looking at you, that's when you flash your lights.  

 

And if you pass one and they flash you in, use your lights to thank them.   

Today, when passing a truck, I don't pull back in until I see the entire truck in my rear view mirror. And once I pull back in, I drive no slower than they are going. Well, based on what is ahead later maybe, but no sudden maneuvers.

 

I also try to avoid passing if someone else is going to be on my butt and pull over right in front of the truck so they can pass me on my right. I'll wait a couple minutes to let faster traffic go first.

 

When I was a kid, we still had this thing called "driver's education" in high school. Alas, drivers today have few clues and like to ride up against the bumper in front of them. And display frustration by pulling right in front a a vehicle just passed.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

1 hour ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

Also,  watch their mirror.  When they are clear and you see them looking at you, that's when you flash your lights.  

 

And if you pass one and they flash you in, use your lights to thank them.   

Once again, not as many do that as they used to do. There isn't just isn't as much Highway Courtesy anymore. When I'm in my Jeep, or any other four wheeler, I'll hit the flashers on those rare occasions that a truck flashes me over.

Just for informational purposes, Years ago, Big Trucks were equipped with a Parking Light Interrupt Switch that allowed the driver to flash the Parking lights without the Headlights to respond to a truck that flashed him over. Some drivers got quite creative with their signalling.

1 hour ago, John Kloehr said:

 

My dad taught to to dim my lights a couple times for the signals, not high beams. Or if daylight, to activate them a couple (low beam) flashes. Not high beams.

 

He also got taught this in Canada where lights needed to always be on, but many truck driver's here did the light dim or low beam light flash among each other.

 

These new drivers? They don't have a clue, neither do most "skateboard" drivers sharing the road with trucks.

During daylight, a flash of the lights, whether low or high beams does the trick. Since the advent of the Multi Function Switch, with the ability of the driver to use that to momentarily flash the high beams, most use that. 

At night, yes, dimming the lights serves the same purpose.

[Pat Riot]

13 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

Once again, not as many do that as they used to do. There isn't just isn't as much Highway Courtesy anymore. When I'm in my Jeep, or any other four wheeler, I'll hit the flashers on those rare occasions that a truck flashes me over.

Just for informational purposes, Years ago, Big Trucks were equipped with a Parking Light Interrupt Switch that allowed the driver to flash the Parking lights without the Headlights to respond to a truck that flashed him over. Some drivers got quite creative with their signalling.

During daylight, a flash of the lights, whether low or high beams does the trick. Since the advent of the Multi Function Switch, with the ability of the driver to use that to momentarily flash the high beams, most use that. 

At night, yes, dimming the lights serves the same purpose.

I have always signaled truckers that they were clear to move over. I flash high beams in the daylight and quickly dim headlights at night. 
Another thing I do that has annoyed the heck out of some other drivers is slow down to let a semi over in single lane ahead scenarios and such. I even do it on my motorcycle. 
I back off and flash my lights numerous times to let the trucker know he or she can safely move over. 
 

[Alpo]

Y'all are throwing a term out that is confusing me.

 

The only way that I know to dim my lights, is if I am driving with high beams on. I turn my brights off - I dim them.

 

So y'all talk about dimming your lights to let the trucker know he's safe to pull over? When he's passing you you're driving with your high beams on?

[Pat Riot]

40 minutes ago, Alpo said:

Y'all are throwing a term out that is confusing me.

 

The only way that I know to dim my lights, is if I am driving with high beams on. I turn my brights off - I dim them.

 

So y'all talk about dimming your lights to let the trucker know he's safe to pull over? When he's passing you you're driving with your high beams on?

In this instance Dim = off

Quickly dim = On, off, On quickly

[Gorgo]

experience is truly the best teacher 

[Subdeacon Joe]

17 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

really hate people with their high beams on, especially when they have those cheap, blue tinted LEDs. They get 2 flashes with the high beams, and if that doesn't do it, (and there's no other traffic on their side), they get the full Portable Sun. What's that you ask, THIS:

 

Heh!  Back in the late 1980s I was southbound on I-5, somewhere in the south end of the Central Valley, a little after midnight.   Mostly tractor-trailers, but a smattering of us 4-wheelers.  

One guy in a fancy new car was driving with his high beams on, ignoring the signals of those he had slowly passed to turn off his brights.  I listened on the CB as some truckers organized and boxed him in behind an empty flatbed, the tractor of which had a light bar with half a dozen really powerful flood lights to illuminate the trailer for loading at night.   Got him boxed,  then lit him up for about 5 seconds.   Then one with a PA system said,  "Turn off your (damned) brights, Idiot!"

 

[Subdeacon Joe]

1 hour ago, Pat Riot said:

Another thing I do that has annoyed the heck out of some other drivers is slow down to let a semi over ...

 

Or to let them onto the freeway if traffic is heavy.   

[irish ike, SASS #43615]

On 9/3/2024 at 5:26 PM, Alpo said:

Pretty sure the Supreme Court has declared it constitutional.

 

It is as long as the cops have RAS. Reasonable articulable suspicion that 1. a crime has occurred, 2. you're in the process of committing a crime, 3. you're about to commit a crime. Suspicion in of itself is not a crime. and they just can't stop you and frisk you.  New York got sued  a bunch because cops were just searching people with no RAS.

[irish ike, SASS #43615]

On 9/4/2024 at 9:17 AM, Major Hazzard, SASS #23254 said:

A civil servant just doing his job doesn't deserve that attitude

What about all the cops that have really bad attitudes?  Telling people to shut up, not answering questions, won't identify themselves, claim they know the law better than the driver. And in most cases on YouTube the driver is right about the law and or their civil rights. Retaliation against the driver because they knew their rights. Cops call that being uncooperative. Usually end up cuffing the driver. Its not being a sovereign citizen for standing by their rights.  Funny how many cops think the 5th amendment only applies if y9our arrested. And they arrest someone for not answering questions.  Even sCOTUS has said do not talk to cops. Invoke your rights.

[Rip Snorter]

2 minutes ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said:

What about all the cops that have really bad attitudes?  Telling people to shut up, not answering questions, won't identify themselves, claim they know the law better than the driver. And in most cases on YouTube the driver is right about the law and or their civil rights. Retaliation against the driver because they knew their rights. Cops call that being uncooperative. Usually end up cuffing the driver. Its not being a sovereign citizen for standing by their rights.  Funny how many cops think the 5th amendment only applies if y9our arrested. And they arrest someone for not answering questions.  Even sCOTUS has said do not talk to cops. Invoke your rights.

If you don't like the police, please don't ask for their help.  Others can use it.

[Subdeacon Joe]

6 minutes ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said:

What about all the cops that have really bad attitudes?  Telling people to shut up, not answering questions, won't identify themselves, claim they know the law better than the driver. And in most cases on YouTube the driver is right about the law and or their civil rights. Retaliation against the driver because they knew their rights. Cops call that being uncooperative. Usually end up cuffing the driver. Its not being a sovereign citizen for standing by their rights.  Funny how many cops think the 5th amendment only applies if y9our arrested. And they arrest someone for not answering questions.  Even sCOTUS has said do not talk to cops. Invoke your rights.

 

Careful!  You'll be told you're an anti-police AH.

ADDE:

We all know,  because we've been told here, that all LEOs are perfect and never wrong.  Expressing an doubts about that means that you are  an Untermenschen and so not worthy to call police for any reason. 

Edited September 8 by Subdeacon Joe