Marshal Fire, SASS 10064 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Recently have purchase some (smokeless) Clean Shot powder to use for SASS. was wondering if fellow shooters have any load data to use for our sport. looking for data for 38/357, cast lead bullets, especially 147 and 158 grain bullets. many thanks for the consideration. Marshal Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Dot, 14911 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Check the bullets by Scarlet web site. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Scarlett sells cast bullets, Clean Shot powder and also APP and is a really good supporter and vendor for the SASS community. Her website is https://bulletsbyscarlett.com/ . Kajun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) I use 125 gr bullet and use 3.3 grns of CleanShot. Have used this formula for over 6 years in both my pistols and rifles and have never had any issues. I also get my powder from Scarlett. TM Edited August 30 by Texas Maverick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Eagle Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) I use 3.2 grains of Clean Shot behind either 105 or 125 grain bullets at 1.500 OAL in 38 special cases. Works great, and the 125 grain boolits give me a little more oompf for the plate racks. For 147 and 158 grain boolits, I would load up a few with 3.0 grain and a few with 3.2 and see how you like them. I'm a fan of the Clean Shot powder. Use it for 9mm, 40, 45acp, 45 colt and cowboy 12 gage. Nice recoil, burns clean except for the cowboy 12 gage, not temperature sensitive, or position sensitive, and is usually priced right. I'll also throw in another thumbs up for Scarlett. You will find "cowboy" load data on her website. Edited August 29 by Wild Eagle add info 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngson Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I load 158 grain RNFP with 3 grans of clean shot in .38 special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Fire, SASS 10064 Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 When I searched Scarlets web site as well as the web site for the powder company Lovex I could not find any data for 147/158 grain cast bullets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Eagle Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 2 minutes ago, Marshal Fire, SASS 10064 said: When I searched Scarlets web site as well as the web site for the powder company Lovex I could not find any data for 147/158 grain cast bullets I'm surprised by that. 147 is not a common size for 38/357, but the 158 is very popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Brown Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Here is some data. Clean Shot Powder Load data shows both 125gr and 158 gr starting load at 2.5gr- so with 147 should be ok as starting File Shooters World Load Data - Clean shot is 2nd to last page Clean Shot Cowboy Load Data.pdf Shooters World Load Data.pdf Clean Shot Powder.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I use Cleanshot for all my cowboy loads, 3.1 Gr in .38 and .357, also in 9mm. For LPP I use 4.4 Gr in .44sp and Mag, also in .45acp for WB. Not to be left out I use 14.4 Gr in 12 ga. It is good stuff. Imis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I just bought a five pounder of Clean Shot!! I will be trying it out soon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlesnake Slim Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 You'll love it, especially the way it meters through a powder measure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind Squirrel Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 20 hours ago, Texas Maverick said: I use 125 gr bullet and use 3.3 grns of CleanShot. ...and have never had any issues. I also get my powder from Scarlett. TM Ditto. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Lead Pepper Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 2 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said: I just bought a five pounder of Clean Shot!! Where did you find it? I have a hard time finding it in stock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I got mine from Scarlett!! She’s got several powders in inventory and good prices! She doesn’t ship, but she’s good at finding a cowboy that’s headed your way or lives near you! Check the Merchant Corner forum here for her contact info and the latest information on her inventory and schedule. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 On 8/29/2024 at 7:35 PM, Jim Brown said: Here is some data. Clean Shot Powder Load data shows both 125gr and 158 gr starting load at 2.5gr- so with 147 should be ok as starting File Shooters World Load Data - Clean shot is 2nd to last page Clean Shot Cowboy Load Data.pdf 39.15 kB · 13 downloads Shooters World Load Data.pdf 8.24 MB · 11 downloads Clean Shot Powder.pdf 46.26 kB · 11 downloads Thank you!! I just saw this thread and that @Marshal Fire, SASS 10064 was having trouble finding the data! If Y’all EVER have a hard time with anything you’ve gotten from me, please call or email me! 843-833-0770 or bulletsbyscarlett@gmail.com The next to last page of the Shooters World book that says Competitive Data is data compiled by SW with my cast bullets at the Sig Sauer lab in Kentucky. Super big hugs! Scarlett Clean Shot Cowboy Action Load Data.xlsx 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodchuck Willy 114613 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Just going through this load research also. Here is what I have come up with so far: .38 special : 3 Gr Clean shot, Magnum Winchester primers .44 mag: 4.2 Gr CS, WLP primers 12 Gauge: 13 Grains CS, pink wad (WAA12SL equivalent), 7/8 oz shot, one cotton ball on top of shot. Oh - Remington Hulls, Win 209 primers. The Pistol loads feel identical to the Choice Ammunition Cowboy factory ammo. The shotgun has very light recoil and the cotton ball provides a nice snowing affect when shooting. Fingers crossed it will knock down the shotgun targets. Haven't tried it at a match yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 For loading with Cleanshot, I used Scarlett's data and settled on 3.0 grains with an overall cartridge length of 1.485 I do recommend dropping down to 125gr bullets when you next buy or cast them. No problem with knockdowns as the velocity is faster using the same amount of powder. Anyway, 3.0 is a good starting point and if you want even more oomph to kill those pesky charging rhinoceri, you can tweak your load. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 34 minutes ago, Woodchuck Willy 114613 said: Just going through this load research also. Here is what I have come up with so far: .38 special : 3 Gr Clean shot, Magnum Winchester primers .44 mag: 4.2 Gr CS, WLP primers 12 Gauge: 13 Grains CS, pink wad (WAA12SL equivalent), 7/8 oz shot, one cotton ball on top of shot. Oh - Remington Hulls, Win 209 primers. The Pistol loads feel identical to the Choice Ammunition Cowboy factory ammo. The shotgun has very light recoil and the cotton ball provides a nice snowing affect when shooting. Fingers crossed it will knock down the shotgun targets. Haven't tried it at a match yet. I too shoot 7/8 oz smokeless loads. I carry a couple of heavier, factory loads on my belt for out-of-calibration shotgun targets that need to be hit harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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