Alpo Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 Swimming pools have chlorine. I've just started watching a new to me TV show. Wednesday. Wednesday Addams as a teenager in high school. The school water polo team was picking on Pugsley and shoved him in a locker. So Wednesday goes down to the pool where they're practicing and throws in a couple of bags full of piranha. Just got me to wondering what the swimming pool shock would do to a live fish. Thoughts?
Texas Lizard Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 No....To many things added to pool...Plus tried it as a kid....Belly up by morning..... Texas Lizard
watab kid Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 depends on if was kept up correctly or not , the chlorine and PH balancing woild kill them - rain water not so much
Chief Rick Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 Not to mention, piranha are not nearly as aggressive as certain horror movies have made them out to be. But, as said, they'd probably die in short order in a shocked swimming pool. The chlorine kind or the electrical kind of shocked. 😎
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 It will kill the fish, but not instantly, might have time to attack if they were so inclined.
watab kid Posted August 20, 2024 Posted August 20, 2024 build yourself a coy pond with aerator , that will keep them alive
Rip Snorter Posted August 20, 2024 Posted August 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, watab kid said: build yourself a coy pond with aerator , that will keep them alive Have had a Koi pond for decades. Filter, Aerator, and in Winter Aerator and Heater. In a cold area, you will need to cover the pond as well. More than worth the trouble and the cost. Wonderful to watch. Scaled pets.
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted August 20, 2024 Posted August 20, 2024 Pools are not always chlorine other chems are used, but for a school pool chlorine is the most likely. Most likely in The halogen group and not nice to aquatic life.
Michigan Slim Posted August 20, 2024 Posted August 20, 2024 No. And the ozone generators will kill them too. The purpose of disinfection is to kill. It works.
Rye Miles #13621 Posted August 20, 2024 Posted August 20, 2024 Got me to thinkin……would salt water fish live in a swimming pool?
Chief Rick Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 5 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Got me to thinkin……would salt water fish live in a swimming pool? Not for long. There are only a handful of fish that can transition from fresh-to-saltwater and vice versa. Most can only do so for short periods of time and that is dependent on the salinity. One exception I'm aware of is the Bull shark. It is commonly found as far inland as Lake Okeechobee and has no problems living in fresh water.
paradiddle Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 10 hours ago, Michigan Slim said: No. And the ozone generators will kill them too. The purpose of disinfection is to kill. It works. This is not correct. Ozone filters are fine for aquariums and work the same way activated carbon does. To all the other silly posts, chlorine is one of the quickest way to kill your freshwater or saltwater fish other then throwing them on the floor. Freshwater fish are typically more hardy and tolerant of temperature swings and water purity. Saltwater fish - not so much. Having a properly running aquarium is very much a chemistry game.
Alpo Posted August 21, 2024 Author Posted August 21, 2024 38 minutes ago, Chief Rick said: Not for long. There are only a handful of fish that can transition from fresh-to-saltwater and vice versa. Most can only do so for short periods of time and that is dependent on the salinity. One exception I'm aware of is the Bull shark. It is commonly found as far inland as Lake Okeechobee and has no problems living in fresh water. So, is it the long fight upstream that causes the salmon to die after mating, or is it the breathing freshwater after growing up in the ocean?
Michigan Slim Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 1 hour ago, paradiddle said: This is not correct. Ozone filters are fine for aquariums and work the same way activated carbon does. To all the other silly posts, chlorine is one of the quickest way to kill your freshwater or saltwater fish other then throwing them on the floor. Freshwater fish are typically more hardy and tolerant of temperature swings and water purity. Saltwater fish - not so much. Having a properly running aquarium is very much a chemistry game. I use ozone generators to disinfect wastewater. It kills fish too.
Michigan Slim Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 51 minutes ago, Alpo said: So, is it the long fight upstream that causes the salmon to die after mating, or is it the breathing freshwater after growing up in the ocean? It is the fact that their internal organs shrink to make room for eggs and milk. They stop eating and starve to death.
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 I just watched Piranha 3D on the SciFi Channel this afternoon and they were in a pool chomping on teenagers. My TV is only 2D but it was still an epic film.
Major Crimes Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 I have seen it done in Australia. We mainly have salt pools so they probably stop topping up for a while and it weakens/dilutes. They then put trout in the pool and feed them up over winter and have a BBQ with fresh caught trout before summer heats up. Trout can be raised in a swimming pool though it’s best only to use an above-ground pool for seasonal farming rather than a permanent, four-season environment. Above-ground pools are often used in tropical locations like Hawaii or the Southern US mainland. Raising Trout at Home (Homestead Farming for Food Independence) - ruggedoutdoorsguide.com
Chief Rick Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 10 hours ago, Alpo said: So, is it the long fight upstream that causes the salmon to die after mating, or is it the breathing freshwater after growing up in the ocean? Per the USGS (we can trust the gov, right?): Most of them stop eating when they return to freshwater and have no energy left for a return trip to the ocean after spawning. After they die, other animals eat them (but people don't) or they decompose, adding nutrients to the stream.
Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 21 minutes ago, Chief Rick said: Per the USGS (we can trust the gov, right?): Most of them stop eating when they return to freshwater and have no energy left for a return trip to the ocean after spawning. After they die, other animals eat them (but people don't) or they decompose, adding nutrients to the stream. That's true of Pacific salmon (king, coho, pink, chum, sockeye) but not Atlantic salmon, many of which return to the sea after spawning to do it all over again the following year.
Michigan Slim Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 39 minutes ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said: That's true of Pacific salmon (king, coho, pink, chum, sockeye) but not Atlantic salmon, many of which return to the sea after spawning to do it all over again the following year. Also trout. Steelhead and Browns return for years if able. Char also.
Alpo Posted August 21, 2024 Author Posted August 21, 2024 27 minutes ago, Michigan Slim said: Char also British cleaning ladies swim upstream to spawn?
paradiddle Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 15 hours ago, Michigan Slim said: I use ozone generators to disinfect wastewater. It kills fish too. Must be a different type, because they use them on fish tanks. Far more expensive then using a carbon based media filter.
Oak Ridge Regulator Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 Had an old cast iron bathtub for a horse trough as a kid with a big old gold fish living in it spring through fall. Neither the horse nor the fish cared
Cypress Sun Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 In residential construction, the pool shell is almost always poured long before the house is even drywalled. In Florida, and probably elsewhere, the GC's would put minnows in the pool to eat the mosquito larvae. The minnows lived were able to live so long as there was a minimal amount of water (green algae water) in the pool shell without any aeriation at all. The minnows in the swimming pool thing became a must during the real estate fiasco in the mid 2000's and all of the foreclosures, when a bunch of people were just walking away from their houses. The power to the houses got turned off and the swimming pools became a super breeding pool for mosquitos.
Michigan Slim Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 13 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: In residential construction, the pool shell is almost always poured long before the house is even drywalled. In Florida, and probably elsewhere, the GC's would put minnows in the pool to eat the mosquito larvae. The minnows lived were able to live so long as there was a minimal amount of water (green algae water) in the pool shell without any aeriation at all. The minnows in the swimming pool thing became a must during the real estate fiasco in the mid 2000's and all of the foreclosures, when a bunch of people were just walking away from their houses. The power to the houses got turned off and the swimming pools became a super breeding pool for mosquitos. House down the street was abandoned with a green pool full of mosquitoes. Landlord didn't care. I dumped a gallon of used motor oil in it. No more skeeters. City made him fill it in.
Cypress Sun Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 18 minutes ago, Michigan Slim said: House down the street was abandoned with a green pool full of mosquitoes. Landlord didn't care. I dumped a gallon of used motor oil in it. No more skeeters. City made him fill it in. All kinds of legal issues with the motor oil solution, more than I would want to deal with. That said, I can't blame you one bit.
watab kid Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 4:09 PM, Michigan Slim said: House down the street was abandoned with a green pool full of mosquitoes. Landlord didn't care. I dumped a gallon of used motor oil in it. No more skeeters. City made him fill it in. yea , thats not good , got enough coming off the river out back to feed the batts and drive me from the lawn at dusk ,
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 I have seen some pools that are so NASTY , I do NOT think a bow fin could survive in them CB
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