Alpo Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I plan to make some 300 Savage brass out of 308 Winchester. Basically, it's just run it into a 300 die, and then shorten the neck. Would it make more sense to anneal it first, then size it down and shorten it? Or size it down and shorten it and then anneal it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 When I couldn't find any .243 brass up here, we resorted to .308 brass. Heated the neck of the cases, with a torch, while they were standing in a tray of water, then tipped them over to cool. Next, through the neck sizer, then trimmed them to the correct OAL. YMMV Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Since all I could find were forums discussing this and we can’t post other forum addresses I am posting my search instead. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=making+.300+savage+brass+with+.308&ia=web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Anneal, reform and Anneal again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Anneal, reform and Anneal again. Sounds like my grandma’s advice when she caught me doing something wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Anneal, reform and Anneal again. Yes working the brass will make it brittle. Anneal before forming and after so the sizing or crimp die doesn't Crack it Non ferrous metals anneal on the quench unlike ferrous that gets brittle when quenched 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Texas Joker said: Non ferrous metals anneal on the quench unlike ferrous that gets brittle when quenched NOPE The heat does the annealing on nonferrous metal Do some research..... Edited August 14 by The Original Lumpy Gritz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 OK hit it with a blow torch get it hot enough to anneal and try to work it hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, Texas Joker said: OK hit it with a blow torch get it hot enough to anneal and try to work it hot. “AI Overview”? Check this out https://bisonballistics.com/articles/the-science-of-cartridge-brass-annealing Edited August 15 by Pat Riot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 I just googled it and that came up. Ya heat it and it gets soft. When ya quench it you can work it sooner. I have been working metal since highschool. Worked non ferrous foundry can smelt pour and form metal Maybe I don't say it right but I know how to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack, SASS #20451 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 More brass cases are ruined by overheating while attempting to anneal them than by any other method. Properly annealing cases is a lot more than heating with a propane torch and letting them cool. Like I posted before I have been annealing brass cases for over 50 years and have seen hundreds of them ruined. That is why I gave up on all other methods and use a AMP machine since it became available. Perfect job every time. You can take your chances with other methods, but when I am using cases which cost $3.00+ each It is worth it to get it right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 ALPO did you find any proper 300 Sav brass ? tryin to get hold of another guy , I think he had some , not sure how many , he has more strange stuff than , I have CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 44 minutes ago, Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 said: ALPO did you find any proper 300 Sav brass ? tryin to get hold of another guy , I think he had some , not sure how many , he has more strange stuff than , I have CB Nope. Apparently the only ammunition, and thus the only brass or bullets, being made nowadays is 223, 308, 6.5 creedmoor and 762x39. Just like the only pistol ammo is 9 mm, 40 and 45 ACP. So if you need something that is not one of these seven chamberings, you're pretty much SOL. I'm also looking for 35 Remington. And I thought Unique powder was made of unobtainium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 35 Rem , ain't to found around here waiting on Paul to call me back on the 300 Sav maybe , he has a little , said he was looking Chickasaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 I have some Savage 300 brass, How much do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 Since I have none, I'm thinking a couple of hundred rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Akneeling in church praying for some .300 Savage brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 If I was going to pray for brass I believe I would pray for 35 Remington. If push absolutely comes to shove, I can cut down some longer brass for 300 (like I cut 270s down for 9.3 by 57). I don't think anything except 35 Remington uses that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 I don't have that much to spare, but I'll take a count and see what I can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Got a little over a hundred I can spare. Good condition, but not all is once fired. PM me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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