Lawdog Dago Dom Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Second City Cop: Fines by Mail? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) I have a solution to this problem!! Add to that the mistletoe on my shirt tail and the third finger of each hand directed skyward for Ford and these sorry government entities!! Edited August 2 by Blackwater 53393 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 ALSO!! When they send you a letter demanding money, maybe with a picture of you speeding or whatever, take a photograph of some money and send that to ‘em!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Well I was probably never going to buy a Ford anyway but now it's for sure I won't! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 7 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Well I was probably never going to buy a Ford anyway but now it's for sure I won't! But it sounds like other people's Fords will be ratting you out! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Not long ago I was setting in the Edge on parking lot waiting for Mary shopping and the center disply lit up. Big Ford dealer wanting permission to track our car! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) BW, by a weird twist of fate every one of your pictures contain a ford body. Not so? Imis Edited August 2 by Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Kris Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Look before you leap...... This is from a respected automotive publication The Drive UPDATE 7/31/2024 @ 3:30p ET: After publication, Ford reached out with a statement to clarify that the idea “is specific for application in law enforcement vehicles, such as the Ford Police Interceptor, and it’s a system that would automate a capability that law enforcement already have in use today, except this would utilize the built-in system and sensors in the vehicle. This patent does not state that driving data from customers’ vehicles would be shared with law enforcement, which is what some media have incorrectly reported. And note, patent applications are intended to protect new ideas but aren’t necessarily an indication of new business or product plans.” That said, the document does leave the door open for the technology to be applied to non-police vehicles “operated by various types of agencies,” including ambulances, government fleets, and private security cars. The rest of the story continues below. The application, which arrives to us by way of Motor Authority, contains a flowchart on page six explaining the logic that would govern the system. As illustrated, a vehicle would constantly be gathering speed data of surrounding traffic, using radar or lidar. If a particular car is determined to exceed a “threshold speed limit” (whether this would be a posted legal limit or otherwise isn’t decided), it would then switch the camera on and begin recording. It would also “determine one or more identifying features of the second vehicle,” to generate a record that may help authorities find it. From there, the data would be sent to additional connected monitoring devices and/or the police, and it’s up to the latter to determine whether to pursue the offending speeder or not. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Step one: Create the method for government control. Step two: Patent it. Step three: Lobby for legislation requiring it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, Blackwater 53393 said: ALSO!! When they send you a letter demanding money, maybe with a picture of you speeding or whatever, take a photograph of some money and send that to ‘em!! Someone did that. Return mail had a picture of handcuffs. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 said: BW, by a weird twist of fate every one of your pictures contain a ford body. Not so? Imis While this is absolutely correct, all but one of those vehicles is powered by Chevrolet and the one using Ford power is mounted on CORVETTE suspension!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Years ago I read a Sci-Fi book that told of people’s cars notifying the police and printing out a ticket for you as you drive. After a certain number of infractions the car would take over and drive you to a police station. I could see that happening in a few years. Thank you for the info and clarification @Calamity Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Robo Cop Judge Dredd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Always keep a low tech vehicle just in case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Eagle Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Ask your farming friends about their John Deere tractors. They collect all sorts of information. John Deere is said to make more money selling this info than they do building tractors. Hopefully, that's an exaggeration, but today you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 In 1985 Illinois passed a law mandating seat belt use, but said Law Enforcement could not pull you over for just that. Today, you will usually be pulled over and ticketed for Seat Belt violation. Once something is available, Big Government cannot be trusted to NOT use it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 11 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said: But it sounds like other people's Fords will be ratting you out! And I'll demand to be faced by my accuser. See how that works out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawhorse Kid Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 That is one way to alienate your customer base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Very easy to defeat. Just cut the cable going to the antenna. You will also have to give up SYNC, OnStar, Uconnect, Safety Connect, or what ever your cars manufacturer calls their system. Do this and the car has no way to phone home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 14 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said: Step one: Create the method for government control. Step two: Patent it. Step three: Lobby for legislation requiring it. And step four license the feature to state and local communities for a cut of the profits as is already done with traffic cams. This can pretty much already be done with any car that has a GPS device in it - e.g., your phone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 18 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: And step four license the feature to state and local communities for a cut of the profits as is already done with traffic cams. This can pretty much already be done with any car that has a GPS device in it - e.g., your phone. I keep the GPS feature on my phone turned off and disabled! There are work arounds to defeat the snooping features in your vehicles’ electronic systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Insurance companies already leverage this tech to allow 'safe' drivers to save on their car insurance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 21 minutes ago, Texas Joker said: Insurance companies already leverage this tech to allow 'safe' drivers to save on their car insurance Yes they do but it's your choice to use it or not. I refused it from my insurance company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 47 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Yes they do but it's your choice to use it or not. I refused it from my insurance company. Same here!! Wasn’t saving me any money that I could see and they were constantly sticking their noses into my business!! I only own one vehicle that their crap will work with anyway!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 time to build an OLD rig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Or just freshen up one you already have!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 18 hours ago, DeaconKC said: In 1985 Illinois passed a law mandating seat belt use, but said Law Enforcement could not pull you over for just that. Today, you will usually be pulled over and ticketed for Seat Belt violation. Once something is available, Big Government cannot be trusted to NOT use it. Same thing happened in Florida. I do notice that the no driving while using a cell phone law has not graduated to that unfortunately...I guess it's not as cost effective as speeding tickets since the fine is so small. They can keep the self-reporting vehicles so far as I'm concerned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Unfortunately driving a Model T is not an option for most people. Modern cars have on average 1,500 computer chips in them. Some have over 3,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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