Snakebite Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 It cost money to play this game. Equipment and supplies are not cheap and parts to tune up and repair a gun are very hard to find and expensive when you do. I know that I will get flamed for this, but I'm sick of hearing from folks every time they want something that they don't have much money. It's almost a pre-cursor to the conversation/inquiry. If you are not willing to pay the going rate for equipment and or work, then go fishing. Gad... did I really finally say that out loud? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 PLUS ONE for Snakebite, yessir!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beartrap SASS#57175 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Have you priced a good rod & reel lately?😆 You might change your suggestion to bowling. 🤣 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 1 minute ago, Beartrap SASS#57175 said: Have you priced a good rod & reel lately?😆 You might change your suggestion to bowling. 🤣 A cane pole, a string, a hook, a worm, a Coors Lite. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Have you seen the cost of fishing lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chickamauga Charlie, SASS #47963 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 He"s called snakebite for a reason folks 🤣 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 6 minutes ago, Snakebite said: Is the Coors Light what he's fishing in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Careful...there are folks here that only want to hear La-La posts. Besides, have you priced a Hatteras Sportfisher lately? Oy... Phantom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 The wife and I participate because we enjoy it on multiple levels. A past match director used to say, "If you're not having fun, go home." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo casey #19191 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I'm too far into it now.Can't quite now. Largo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Yes it cost for guns & gear. But you could get nicely equipped for $5000-6000 or so. pair of Ruger Vaqueros 1600 uberti 73 (smithed) 1600 decent shotgun 1200 leather 600 cart & miscellaneous 1000 (and yes most have much more invested, many have less) you cannot get a motorcycle, a Boat, an RV, classic car for that amount. And would be pretty easy to get that in a set of golf clubs (last I played, a month before I started CAS 12 years ago, I had about 3K in my golf bag) you could probably go bowling! now the plus side. In a couple of years you can likely get all your money back out of your guns. Your boat, motorcycle, RV etc will be worth 1/2 what you paid. and, in CAS you will meet the finest folks you’ve ever been around! 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) Remember the old saying "if you have to ask the price you can't afford it?" As a add on to Snakebite's post the people that keep saying "gee I use to buy primers for $25.00 a thousand and powder for $19.00 a pound. I ain't gonna pay these high prices" are getting annoying. Prices are NEVER going back to what they were and if you ain't gonna pay you ain't gonna play. Edited July 23 by Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 18 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 43 minutes ago, Hoss said: now the plus side. In a couple of years you can likely get all your money back out of your guns. Your boat, motorcycle, RV etc will be worth 1/2 what you paid. and, in CAS you will meet the finest folks you’ve ever been around! You're right, Hoss except for the guns. Most sellers want top dollar and most buyers want cost plus the current rate even if the guns are 20 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Seamus Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 If I had any idea how much we really spend playing cowboy, oh wait, we're having too much fun so I really don't want to know. When primers went over $20/1000, I said I wasn't going to shoot any more. That was 10 years ago, I guess I lied. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Remember the old saying "if you have to ask the price you can't afford it?" As a add on to Snakebite's post the people that keep saying "gee I use to buy primers for $25.00 a thousand and powder for $19.00 a pound. I ain't gonna pay these high prices" are getting annoying. Prices are NEVER going back to what they were and if you ain't gonna pay you ain't gonna play. And then some people get upset that some shooters thought ahead and stockpiled components that they will use themselves when prices go up or the components are unavailable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 5 minutes ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said: And then some people get upset that some shooters thought ahead and stockpiled components that they will use themselves when prices go up or the components are unavailable. And those same people get upset that the person who thought ahead is "price gouging" if they try to sell them at current value. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Tex Jones, SASS 2263 said: You're right, Hoss except for the guns. Most sellers want top dollar and most buyers want cost plus the current rate even if the guns are 20 years old. You are right. In some cases the 20 yr old gun is worth more than the newer gun. Is a 20 yr old JM Marlin in top shape worth more than one of the Remington Marlins? IMO, yes it is. Is a used top condition 73 deluxe Half Round, fully tuned Pistol Grip ($2400 new + shipping and paper) with everything on it plus extras worth more than a basic bottom of the line new 73 with nothing done to it? IMO, yes it is. In most cases folks just don't grasp or won't admit that by the time they pay shipping, paper work, a short stroke and tune and that $1299 bottom of the line rifle is up to $1800+. Yet they will turn their nose up at that top line gun for the same price. Next thing you have to hear is about how their truck needs a new transmission, the wife needs a Face Lift, and their dog just had a little of pups, and that they are short of cash. Geeze! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc roy l. pain Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 hours ago, Snakebite said: A cane pole, a string, a hook, a worm, a Coors Lite. Not me! I want one that’s been slicked up and short stroked!! 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 31 minutes ago, doc roy l. pain said: Not me! I want one that’s been slicked up and short stroked!! Short stroked cane pole makes hard to pull in those big Cat fish.😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 hours ago, Hoss said: and, in CAS you will meet the finest folks you’ve ever been around! Oh...but wait...I thought you said... Fact: Folks in CAS are of the same mixture as pretty much every other place/activity/etc. Phantom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Oh...but wait...I thought you said... Fact: Folks in CAS are of the same mixture as pretty much every other place/activity/etc. Phantom Easy Big Boy, he wasn't talking about you. 😁 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tale Todd Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, doc roy l. pain said: Not me! I want one that’s been slicked up and short stroked!! Why would anyone want to short stroke their pole? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 19 hours ago, doc roy l. pain said: Not me! I want one that’s been slicked up and short stroked!! You want the Popeil Pocket Fisherman Edited July 24 by SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Oh...but wait...I thought you said... Fact: Folks in CAS are of the same mixture as pretty much every other place/activity/etc. Phantom I’d disagree with you on that. I’ve played golf, shown horses, been involved with Little league, my son’s HS athletic booster club, church all my life. By far the easiest to get along with are cowboy action shooters. (With a few exceptions!, but by and large good folks.? I can pretty much promise you if you are playing golf and break a club, a stranger is not going to say here, use mine. I’ve told my kids that when I go home to glory, they can trust a couple of my cowboy friends to dispose of my gun & gear collection honestly. Edited July 23 by Hoss 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 10 minutes ago, Hoss said: I’d disagree with you on that. I’ve played golf, shown horses, been involved with Little league, my son’s HS athletic booster club, church all my life. By far the easiest to get along with are cowboy action shooters. (With a few exceptions!, but by and large good folks.? I can pretty much promise you if you are playing golf and break a club, a stranger is not going to say here, use mine. I've played competitive golf...raced motocross and standup Jetskis (both at a high level). The ratio of good folks to bad folks is essentially the same. But...in the other games (particularly in the racing world), folks would not be afraid of telling you how they feel about XYZ to your face. Here in the "Cowboy" world, much is just said behind folks back. Secondly...if a dumba$$ is treating their guns like crap and one is therefore broken, you'd be a fool to lend them yours...same goes for golf clubs... Phantom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: I've played competitive golf...raced motocross and standup Jetskis (both at a high level). The ratio of good folks to bad folks is essentially the same. But...in the other games (particularly in the racing world), folks would not be afraid of telling you how they feel about XYZ to your face. Here in the "Cowboy" world, much is just said behind folks back. Secondly...if a dumba$$ is treating their guns like crap and one is therefore broken, you'd be a fool to lend them yours...same goes for golf clubs... Phantom So you’ve never had a gun break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: So you’ve never had a gun break? How is this relevant to my post? I have had folks do wonderfully unselfish things for me/with me in other disciplines...show me the data saying that "Cowboy Shooters" are better than any other group. I've experienced CAS'ers that were involved in Adultery, Spouse Swapping, Stealing, Bank Robbery...Drugs...Assault... Yep...just another group of humans...Good, Bad and everything in between. Phantom PS: We're not allowed to give clubs to our competitors during a match...but we competitors worked hard on our games together on the range/practice green. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: How is this relevant to my post? I have had folks do wonderfully unselfish things for me/with me in other disciplines...show me the data saying that "Cowboy Shooters" are better than any other group. I've experienced CAS'ers that were involved in Adultery, Spouse Swapping, Stealing, Bank Robbery...Drugs...Assault... Yep...just another group of humans...Good, Bad and everything in between. Phantom PS: We're not allowed to give clubs to our competitors during a match...but we competitors worked hard on our games together on the range/practice green. Ok, let’s look at this from another angle. A person is interested in stand up jet ski racing. Shows up at a local competition. Expresses interest. Watches. Maybe helps with some chore. how many of those guys will tell him after the match “here, take my jet ski for a ride”. This happens all the time at a CAS match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: Ok, let’s look at this from another angle. A person is interested in stand up jet ski racing. Shows up at a local competition. Expresses interest. Watches. Maybe helps with some chore. how many of those guys will tell him after the match “here, take my jet ski for a ride”. This happens all the time at a CAS match. Uhhhh...like ALL THE TIME! We took blind kids on rides...let inner city kids ride our boats...Teams went to help other teams on the starting line when a boat wouldn't start...I could go on and on. It's absolutely delusional to say that CAS'ers are better than wholesale better than any other group. Phantom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 2 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: And those same people get upset that the person who thought ahead is "price gouging" if they try to sell them at current value. When prices were ultra high, $200+ asking price for a thousand primers, I'll say it did annoy me that people who were essentially non shooters were asking these kinds of prices. Stockpiling for the sole purpose of selling, not shooting. But that was still not the same as what at that time would be "current market price". Happened with 22s also. When prices were high I had Federal spp that everyone wanted and I traded straight up for Large rifle primers. We were both happy. Nobody is forced to pay those prices either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 14 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Uhhhh...like ALL THE TIME! We took blind kids on rides...let inner city kids ride our boats...Teams went to help other teams on the starting line when a boat wouldn't start...I could go on and on. It's absolutely delusional to say that CAS'ers are better than wholesale better than any other group. Phantom Good for you to help others out. But I’m still going to stand firm that CAS shooters in general are friendlier than other groups. just as you are entitled to your opinion, I’m entitled to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 minute ago, Hoss said: Good for you to help others out. But I’m still going to stand firm that CAS shooters in general are friendlier than other groups. just as you are entitled to your opinion, I’m entitled to mine. I like to back up my opinions with some facts. Most CAS'ers hang with their small group. They think that everyone else is just like them...well, they are usually not. How's about the Regulator that was somewhat inebriated at their ranch...that also has a CAS range on it and she tossed out a very nice elderly lady from "her' club...for absolutely no reason...or the MD laughing behind a whole group of shooters that were doing something silly...but that silly thing was requested by the MD! It was a...private little joke with him and his friends. Not saying that these crappy things only happen in CAS...in fact I'm arguing that they happen in every Sport/Game. But to say that "we're" special...no...no "we" are not. Phantom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 hours ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said: And then some people get upset that some shooters thought ahead and stockpiled components that they will use themselves when prices go up or the components are unavailable. I don't usually talk about it, but well before the 2000 COVID debacle I had stockpiled powder, primers, lead, and brass. Just because there were shortages before that. I don't sell it. Simply for my own use. I don't think I'll need to buy anything more except .38 bullets, (I don't cast my own), for the rest of my life. If I retire from shooting and have stock left, I'll sell it off for somewhere between the going rate, and what I paid for it. If I die suddenly and unexpectedly, I've designated someone else to take care of selling all my shooting and reloading, "stuff" for my wife. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc roy l. pain Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER said: You want the Popiel Pocket Fisherman Believe it or not, I had one of those for over 20 years lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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