Widder, SASS #59054 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just curious. In today's match, it was hot. The stages were relatively simple and no obvious 'P traps' or shooter ambushes. BUT........ it seemed that thru-out the match (and not just one particular stage) there seem to be an unusual amount of 'P's earned. Just wondering if at your hot weather matches if the 'P's increase in relation to rising temps. And yea..... I earned one also. 😊 ..........Widder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Belle Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I got 2! At least I can beat someone at something! And yes, the brain is the first to go in the heat 🥵 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Yeah, I have for several summers now seen the Ps mount up quickly in NM club matches and annuals in hot weather, especially on a 5th or 6th stage at 1 or 2 PM. That is with lots of reminders to drink lots of fluids. Some folks are obvious about drinking extra in hot weather. Many are not. good luck, GJ 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 That is why everyone tells you to keep hydrated. If i am dried out I can't P at all. 3 1 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 11 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: That is why everyone tells you to keep hydrated. If i am dried out I can't P at all. Amen brother. I can surely sweat though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Don't sweat over it. It happens. 🤠 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I can't see how they wouldn't,. Dehydration, electrolyte depletion, distraction, heat stress -- hot weather brings on too many things that take the edge off of mental performance, and I believe P's tend to be more a measure of the mental aspect of the stage. Add into that the posse duties do not diminish just because of heat, but the people who do them does -- any cowboy is going to step up their game to fill in when fellow shooters get worn down by the heat, and some posse members get worn down faster than others. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Procedurals will increase under ANY adverse conditions that make it harder to keep one's focus. Too hot, too cold, too windy, too wet, swarming killer bees, clouds of any other biting insects, and the list goes on and on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc roy l. pain Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Absolutely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 9 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Just curious. In today's match, it was hot. The stages were relatively simple and no obvious 'P traps' or shooter ambushes. BUT........ it seemed that thru-out the match (and not just one particular stage) there seem to be an unusual amount of 'P's earned. Just wondering if at your hot weather matches if the 'P's increase in relation to rising temps. And yea..... I earned one also. 😊 ..........Widder In your case AGE🤪 I am only 75 and in my prime. I find Ice Cream helps Best Wishes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Knowing that heat can be an issue, we do things that can speed the match up such as quick stages, multiple stages per bay and/or starting earlier. Like a bad battery, my juice starts failing early and gets quite depleted by stage 4 or 5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 PLUS ONE for Pettifogger. I hydrate heavily in hot weather. Seems like I get a "P" every other stage. If yer not getting Ps ya ain't hydrating enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Bob Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Also - if you don’t “P” in hot weather - you’re not hydrating enough! 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 At the Texas State "heat match" last month, there were 58 P's. I'm not sure how that compared to the previous year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I was on Widder's posse yesterday; it was hot! We all struggled to stay focused. Even the top shooters were messing up. The sad thing is that yesterday was not quite as hot, or humid, as our local shoots the last two Saturdays before. Our high humidity here in the Southeast makes high temps even worse. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 hours ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: At the Texas State "heat match" last month, there were 58 P's. I'm not sure how that compared to the previous year. and 5 people succumbed to the heat, including my wife who drinks water like a fish so it was HOT. TM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 If your over 70 years old. P's shouldn't be given..... 6 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizPete Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 We also used to call Hawaiian shirt days. Basically, we required cowboy boots & hats. Whatever was in between was up to the shooter. It was frowned upon in SASS at the time, but in the South's heat & humidity, it kept people on the range. I, personally, have an 85-degree rule. Except for Black Gold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells Comin Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 hours ago, Texas Maverick said: and 5 people succumbed to the heat, including my wife who drinks water like a fish so it was HOT. TM Imagine if was a 12 stage match and having to shoot 6 stages a day instead of 5. I Didn't pass out or earn any "P's" I think not sure. DIDN'T put anything away when we finished just sat in the truck with face in the AC vent!!! I'll take the dry 112° heat any day. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, MizPete said: We also used to call Hawaiian shirt days. Basically, we required cowboy boots & hats. Whatever was in between was up to the shooter. It was frowned upon in SASS at the time, but in the South's heat & humidity, it kept people on the range. I, personally, have an 85-degree rule. Except for Black Gold. We tend to discourage loin cloths for the men shooters. Kajun 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, Krazy Kajun said: discourage loin cloths for the men shooters. Ban them from picking brass, at least. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Krazy Kajun said: We tend to discourage loin cloths for the men shooters. Kajun No one warned me... I spent most of the day trying to shade my eyes from all the reflected glare! Not to mention how the heat can aggravate tempers... I once had to break up a near fight between a couple of frustrated competitors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 from an article entitled How Heat Kills: Attacking the brain Heat also affects the brain. It can cause a person to have confusion, or trouble thinking, several doctors said. “One of the first symptoms you’re getting into trouble with the heat is if you get confused,” said University of Washington public health and climate professor Kris Ebi. That’s little help as a symptom because the person suffering from the heat is unlikely to recognize it, she said. And it becomes a bigger problem as people age. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 35 minutes ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: Ban them from picking brass, at least. Especially, if it's windy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 A general rule is as match difficulty increases, you will first see an increase in misses, then an increase in Procedural s. That is true for the weather conditions as well as the match design. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 In summer, locals (for me) usually get a little simpler; mostly so I don't abuse my setup crew that has to drag everything out but also because as we get near the middle of the day on a Georgia summer Saturday, folks are just wiped out and want to be done with it all. If ya go gettin all complicated, you will absolutely have more mistakes (misses and procedurals) and folks will get cranky... I sure do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 14 hours ago, Krazy Kajun said: We tend to discourage loin cloths for the men shooters. Kajun Don’t tell Christian that! I try to get a bottle of water per stage. As Widder said the match Saturday was hot! Five bottles of water and no Ps, and no need to pee, so definitely hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 I'll bet if you kept the stats that misses also increase when it is really hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 18 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: If your over 70 years old. P's shouldn't be given..... Perhaps not, but they should be taken whenever possible!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted July 1 Author Share Posted July 1 9 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: I'll bet if you kept the stats that misses also increase when it is really hot. Howdy SD. Some of those 'Misses' are probably missed because the spotters are also getting hot and having attentive issues. 😀 ..........Widder 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Pat Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 I was at a Shoot on Labor Day in Louisiana with no air stirring and 100 degrees. I dropped 4 shells trying to load my double. and my buddies made me sit down drink water and cool off. They probably saved me from heat stroke. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 On 6/30/2024 at 3:17 PM, Krazy Kajun said: We tend to discourage loin cloths for the men shooters. Kajun or Patnode or 4 Aces and their kilts. LOL TM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizPete Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 On 6/30/2024 at 4:17 PM, Krazy Kajun said: We tend to discourage loin cloths for the men shooters. We did once have one turn up wearing a barrel. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Creek Jack Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Absolutely “Ps” increase with high temps ESP. In matches with 6 or more stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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