Scarlett Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 @Artemus Von Schutze it took FOREVER… Tommy bought a 303 British Enfield at Wisconsin match. I didn’t even know he was looking! And, honestly, he didn’t either. It’s magazine fed, not the super cool stripper clips … I’m in need of magazines (haven’t even looked but know I can find them) and also lead projectiles/SASS legal ammo. Hugs! Scarlett 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Great rifles! Yes you can use stripper clips, but you must load them carefully so the rims don't hang up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) Why not the super cool stripper clips? I have a #1 Mk 3 for BAMM matches and use stripper clips to reload. I remember reading somewhere that troops were instructed not to remove the magazine unless it was damaged, and to reload with stripper clips. Mine all needed a little polishing so the rounds stripped smoothly into the action. Edited June 25 by Three Foot Johnson 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-eye, SASS#45097 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Even though they have magazines, they are meant to be reloaded with stripper clips. Magazine changes were not usually recommended in the British military. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I have modified clipper strips for my No.4 Mk1 to assist loading. Proper size lead bullets are what's hard to find. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Scarlett, not to recommend one bullet maker to another but Norm at Quality-Cast makes proper bullets. https://quality-cast.com/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 3 hours ago, Scarlett said: @Artemus Von Schutze it took FOREVER… Tommy bought a 303 British Enfield at Wisconsin match. I didn’t even know he was looking! And, honestly, he didn’t either. It’s magazine fed, not the super cool stripper clips … I’m in need of magazines (haven’t even looked but know I can find them) and also lead projectiles/SASS legal ammo. Hugs! Scarlett I've owned a Lee–Enfield No. 4 Mk 2 for a long time now. As already mentioned the magazine is meant to stay in the gun and the rifle should be reloaded with stripper clips. Trying to a magazine change with an Enfield is not quick. It is VERY important that the rim is in front of the rim of the cartridge below it in the stripper clip or if you load the gun manually. If this is not done, you get "rim lock" and the gun won't feed the rounds. The Lee Enfield is a faster bolt action than most of the other BAMM rifles (Gamer ) Stripper clips: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=british+303+clips&_sop=12 https://www.victory-arms.com/303-British-Enfield-Stripper-Clips https://www.amazon.com/British-Enfield-Charger-Stripper-Clips/dp/B08GHHSGPH?th=1 Projectiles: (It uses the same bullet diameter as 7.62x54R and 7.7mm Japanese) http://www.westernbullet.com/316oversize30.html https://quality-cast.com/gas-checked/rifle-bullets/ https://www.montanabulletworks.com/product-category/rifle/page/2/ Brass: https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/75912 I am a long time Graf's customer, good company. Prvi Partizan is good brass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I cast my .303 and 7.65 Argentine bullets with a Lyman #314299 mold. It's a gas check design weighing around 200 grains, depending on the alloy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 From fastest to slowest bolt action rifles.... 1. US Krag 2. Mk I SMLE tied with US M1917 Enfield. 3. M1903A3 Springfield tied with K98 Mauser in 8mm. The above 4 are so close to each other in handling and performance that it could easily be a 4 way tie. I just find the cock on closing a hair faster than the cock on opening. But that could just be me. 4. G98 Mauser 7mm. Only the non turned down bolt keeps this untied with the above. 5. M1903 Springfield as it tends to jam on the 3rd or 4th round almost every time. (Been a while since I fired it, I forget which one usually hangs up) Note, this assumes 5 shots. The Krag would drop down to last place if a reload is needed. And, depending on how many reloads, and what the rules of the event say, the SMLE does hold 10, so that may give it an advantage in some scenarios. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 #6 Mosin Nagant. Actually has excellent sights and a brilliant feeding method that eliminates jams from mis-feeding the rimmed cartridges. Many have horribly rough action and chambers that can greatly benefit from polishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missouri Marshal SASS #50682 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 My favorite BAM rifle is a Swedish 6.5X55mm Mauser. It is cock on close, uses the same stripper clips as a 30-06 (easy to find) and is very accurate. As far as lead bullets, Missouri Bullet Co sells one they call the Russian, made for Mosins. It is 167gr, groove less Hy-Tec 2 coated bullet with a brinell of 20. It is sized at .312 so it should work in the .303 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 (edited) 7 hours ago, DeaconKC said: Great rifles! Yes you can use stripper clips, but you must load them carefully so the rims don't hang up. I’m gonna use the stripper clips! Edited June 26 by Scarlett 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 7 hours ago, Three Foot Johnson said: Why not the super cool stripper clips? I have a #1 Mk 3 for BAMM matches and use stripper clips to reload. I remember reading somewhere that troops were instructed not to remove the magazine unless it was damaged, and to reload with stripper clips. Mine all needed a little polishing so the rounds stripped smoothly into the action. Ok!! Yay!! I love the stripper clips!! Now I get it. I’m definitely using the stripper clips!! Thanks!! Hugs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 THANKS SO MUCH!! Y’all know how to make a Cowgirl SMILE!! HUGS! Scarlett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Missouri Marshal SASS #50682 said: My favorite BAM rifle is a Swedish 6.5X55mm Mauser. It is cock on close, uses the same stripper clips as a 30-06 (easy to find) and is very accurate. As far as lead bullets, Missouri Bullet Co sells one they call the Russian, made for Mosins. It is 167gr, groove less Hy-Tec 2 coated bullet with a brinell of 20. It is sized at .312 so it should work in the .303 Wouldn't work in mine, would keyhole at 50 yards. Bore size can range up to .315. Mine cast at .314. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 25 minutes ago, SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER said: Wouldn't work in mine, would keyhole at 50 yards. Bore size can range up to .315. Mine cast at .314. Slug the barrel then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 4 minutes ago, Scarlett said: Slug the barrel then? Yes, .314. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 My WWI era SMLE has excellent accuracy, and I use .313" bullets. I have read that the WWII era Mark IV's have a rep for terrible accuracy, with one notable exception; the American made Savage ones. Apparently Savage found the British spec's for the bore to be unacceptably inaccurate, so they upgraded to their own specs and they became tack drivers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemus Von Schutze Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 8 hours ago, Scarlett said: @Artemus Von Schutze it took FOREVER… Tommy bought a 303 British Enfield at Wisconsin match. I didn’t even know he was looking! And, honestly, he didn’t either. It’s magazine fed, not the super cool stripper clips … I’m in need of magazines (haven’t even looked but know I can find them) and also lead projectiles/SASS legal ammo. Hugs! Scarlett Double what Bogus Deal said, https://quality-cast.com/ and Norm are the way to go for lead rifle bullets. I use the .30 170gr GC in my 1903 and 45-70 350gc in my 1886 and only have great things to say. Looks like they have one just for you... https://quality-cast.com/303-british-200gr-gcsp/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemus Von Schutze Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 4 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: From fastest to slowest bolt action rifles.... 1. US Krag 2. Mk I SMLE tied with US M1917 Enfield. 3. M1903A3 Springfield tied with K98 Mauser in 8mm. The above 4 are so close to each other in handling and performance that it could easily be a 4 way tie. I just find the cock on closing a hair faster than the cock on opening. But that could just be me. 4. G98 Mauser 7mm. Only the non turned down bolt keeps this untied with the above. 5. M1903 Springfield as it tends to jam on the 3rd or 4th round almost every time. (Been a while since I fired it, I forget which one usually hangs up) Note, this assumes 5 shots. The Krag would drop down to last place if a reload is needed. And, depending on how many reloads, and what the rules of the event say, the SMLE does hold 10, so that may give it an advantage in some scenarios. I think you need to look into your rifle and probably the magazine spring. My brother and I both shoot 1903 and have not had this issue. I put it as faster than an A3 since that open sight is faster to get on target. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Fuel https://www.enfield-rifles.com/the-leeenfield-mad-minute_topic7892.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scarlett Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 24 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said: Fuel https://www.enfield-rifles.com/the-leeenfield-mad-minute_topic7892.html Thanks for that article! It was super neat to read about. I’ve shot BAMM twice and loved it. Now, with a little practice… I’m going for the World Record! 38 shots (hits) complete with a sort of “tactical” reload @Artemus Von Schutze LOL! Appreciate all the help! Stay tuned! Big BAMM Hugs! Scarlett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Nice video. Too bad the shooter is now deaf. Would be nice to see him doing it with Stripper Clips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Shootem, SASS # 24816 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Scarlett, the bores of old milsurp rifles vary widely in diameter. Be sure to slug the bore of your rifle before ordering any bullets. Take a .38 caliber pure lead round ball (lube it with Ballistol first), put it in the muzzle, and use a rubber mallet to get it started in the bore. Then use a brass rod to drive it through the bore and measure the diameter of the bore grooves (that will be the largest part of the ball). You will want bullets .001 - .002 above the bore diameter. My Enfield No.4 MK 1 measures .310, and the Enfield No.1 MK III* measures .307, so I use different size bullets in each. I made my own sizing dies from undersized Lee sizing dies -- I opened them up with a dowel rod wrapped with emery cloth. Shooting the right sized bullets is key to accuracy. Hope this helps. Good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 The SMLE was made from around 1889 to 1955, in many variants and in about ten factories, in at least four countries. I had a Savage-made SMLE back in the day and haned about a dozen others. The mags vary within the generations and manufacturers. Best option is to use the stripper clips and study on how to prevent rimlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) Mine is a property of U.S. made in U.S. by Savage for the lend lease program. Edited June 27 by SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilli GaHoot Galoot Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Hold up . . . ya'll are saying Enfields are supposed to have a magazine that sticks out of the bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Just out of curiosity. SMLE "Smelly" or "Smile?" I've always called it a Smelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 9 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: Just out of curiosity. SMLE "Smelly" or "Smile?" I've always called it a Smelly. Smelly and that is a beautiful custom rifle. But sadly, couldn't use it for BAMM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 I saw your rifle during my brief visit to Indiana State. Tommy was pretty proud of it! Very nice gun for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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