Lance A Lott Sackett Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 Does anyone make a sorter for 45 acp and 45 colt brass? It's the only none fun part of Wild Bunch.
Griff Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 24 minutes ago, Lance A Lott Sackett said: Does anyone make a sorter for 45 acp and 45 colt brass? It's the only none fun part of Wild Bunch. The vast majority of the world is issued two, commonly known as "the eyeball, mk1".
Flyin Shootest Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 Yes! I had the same issue separating 44-40 and 45 ACP. I asked and asked for an insert plate that would do this for my shell separators I purchased for most brass, but there was no interest. I ran across Jalon Sortor, (Coggs) and sweet talked him into making me one as a one-off, with the rights to market it. See: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551720942712 He can be contacted at jalon@creativecogsllc.com. I will PM you the his phone number. F.S. P.S. check out his CNC case check loading blocks. They effectively find shells that are misshaped and will fail to feed.
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 I just dump about 20 mixed cases from my tumbler into my hand, jostle them a little, and the tall .45 Colt cases stick up for easy picking out from the rest of the cases. This is definitely a first world problem. GJ
Go West Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 I dump my mixed bag of hulls/cases into a large screen basket. If I don't pick each variety out from the basket, I pick a handful and separate by eye. I shake Schofield and .38 Special in my hand to detect split cases. The .45 Colt and .32 Mag. cases don't split enough to do the shake.
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 1 hour ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: I just dump about 20 mixed cases from my tumbler into my hand, jostle them a little, and the tall .45 Colt cases stick up for easy picking out from the rest of the cases. This is definitely a first world problem. GJ got that right
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 YES!! ABSOLUTELY!! Two were issued at Birth. One on yer left and one on yer right. They work a treat you betcha!!
Sedalia Dave Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 1 hour ago, Griff said: Now separating C45S & 45ACP is a bit harder. Bout the same as separating 45 Colt and 44-40.
Flyin Shootest Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 1 hour ago, Griff said: Now separating C45S & 45ACP is a bit harder. The shell sorter Cogs made for me above works great separating Cowboy specials and 45 ACP. I shoot regularly with a friend that shoots them shorties, and they were a pain in the backside to find before they went though my machine until I got the sorter plate. F.S.
Sedalia Dave Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 Easy DIY project. Make a box of the desired size, Make the bottom out of Plexiglass. Use a router to cut slots in the plexiglass. A 12.5 mm router bit will work nicely.
Sedalia Dave Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 Now if you want to give the Mk 1 eyeball a real workout, separate 38 specials from .357s
Happy Jack, SASS #20451 Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 My big problem is separating 9mm from 9mm Super.
Seth Bradford Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 24 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Now if you want to give the Mk 1 eyeball a real workout, separate 38 specials from .357s Or worse yet... 38 Long Colt and 38 Special
G W Wade Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 Having fought with eager brass picker bringing everything the find. I find a clear spot on my bunch, then scoop up a handful of brass and pick up by the empty mouth to place rim down. When the bag is empty I pick out the longer cases then run a flashlight around inspecting for split necks. Doesn't take that long to sort out the days take. GW
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 The hardest for me to separate is 38 special nickle cases (BP pistol) and 38 special brass (BP rifle). When they are dirty (even after the usual rinse) and a lot of the nickle cases are half-worn to all brass. After I pick the obvious nickle cases out, I often have to check for the stripe on the case head (red=rifle, blue=pistol).
Griff Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 6 hours ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: The hardest for me to separate is 38 special nickle cases (BP pistol) and 38 special brass (BP rifle). When they are dirty (even after the usual rinse) and a lot of the nickle cases are half-worn to all brass. After I pick the obvious nickle cases out, I often have to check for the stripe on the case head (red=rifle, blue=pistol). Try separating 38 Spl large primer brass from small primer brass. 😉 Yeah, some of my .38 brass is that old!
Matthew Duncan Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 On 6/25/2024 at 1:17 AM, Lance A Lott Sackett said: Does anyone make a sorter for 45 acp and 45 colt brass? It's the only none fun part of Wild Bunch. I thought about this for a bit. Since 45 ACP and 45 Colt case diameters are basely the same I can’t think of any way of sorting them other the by hand.
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 The common way of separating objects judging on the length is to use an industrial sorting bowl (like a vibrating case feeder) with the internal ramp designed to tip the objects over to be able to pass a horizontal cutout that lets the short objects fall through and the long ones jump the gap to discharge into another container. Used all the time to sort used brass when working with large amounts. Sorting .45 auto from .45 Colt is even easier - you can get the sorting ramp to drop the 0.473" rim of the auto, while forcing the .508" rim of the .45 Colt to pass over the gap. Stand the cases up before the drop hole tests them. good luck, GJ
Vail Vigilante Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 Get two containers. When you get home from CAS empty your bag into the first. When you get home from WB empty your bag into the second. I feel your pain. I try to save my 10mm but it always seems that one of those infernal 40 SW sneaks in.
Matthew Duncan Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 2 hours ago, Idaho Gunslinger said: I don’t understand how the YouTuber’s solution will separate 45 ACP from 45 Colt?
Sedalia Dave Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Matthew Duncan said: I don’t understand how the YouTuber’s solution will separate 45 ACP from 45 Colt? You would need a plate with slots that will allow 45 ACP to fall through but not allow 45 Colt to pass through. There is an issue you have to be aware of. The 45 Colt cases will fall into the slots and hang up on their rims. This will cause the slots to become plugged with 45 Colt cases and prevent any additional 45 ACP cases from falling through.
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 Typically, you would turn the sorting plate upside down when you see "many" .45 Colt cases clogging the slots. Thus, dumping the Colt cases and clearing slots for continued screening. It's made for screening a few hundred cases, not thousands of cases an hour in a continuous operation. GJ
COGS Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 Lance, As Flying Shootist noted, to assist him in his sorting of 45ACP from 45LC brass, have developed a Shaker Plate that will sort the 45ACP from the 45LC brass. The dimensions I used to define the plate slots were from SAAMI specs. The CNC cut aluminum 6061/5052 slotted plate can either be suspended in a 5-gallon bucket with J hooks or the plate will fit roughly 1/3 of the way down in a 5-gallon bucket, which is how Flying Shootist uses the plate. I'm posting a few photos to this thread for those interested. If there is enough interest for the shaker plate (J hooks not included) I'll look at what I can sell them for. You can find me at www.creativecogsllc.com or email me at Jalon@creativecogsllc.com. Jalon "COGS" Sortor #109674
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 5 hours ago, COGS said: Lance, As Flying Shootist noted, to assist him in his sorting of 45ACP from 45LC brass, have developed a Shaker Plate that will sort the 45ACP from the 45LC brass. The dimensions I used to define the plate slots were from SAAMI specs. The CNC cut aluminum 6061/5052 slotted plate can either be suspended in a 5-gallon bucket with J hooks or the plate will fit roughly 1/3 of the way down in a 5-gallon bucket, which is how Flying Shootist uses the plate. I'm posting a few photos to this thread for those interested. If there is enough interest for the shaker plate (J hooks not included) I'll look at what I can sell them for. You can find me at www.creativecogsllc.com or email me at Jalon@creativecogsllc.com. Jalon "COGS" Sortor #109674 I sent you an email--interested cr
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 On 6/25/2024 at 12:43 PM, Sedalia Dave said: Now if you want to give the Mk 1 eyeball a real workout, separate 38 specials from .357s I built a box that holds two 50-round loading trays. The sides are a couple of inches tall to contain the brass when the box is shaken (not stirred) I use the #6 blocks which are for .45 Colt--plenty of room for the 38/357 cases drop in a handful of 38/357 cases and shake--most will end up with case mouth at the top clear off any cases that didn't get in a hole and then hold tray up and sight along the top of the cases--easy to see which are taller than others
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 I use a Comanchero. You can get them from Mexico . They are cheap and do a pretty good job !
COGS Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 My fellow shooters, To provide some perspective on this shaker plate. It is made of 5052/6061 aluminum, depending on cost of material. We all know we can't get something for nothing, but we all know that we can't get back out time. This product is meant to save you time in your sorting process, especially when attempting to sort numerous calibers, or just a couple but maybe in bulk. This would help "safe you time". We all spend thousands of dollars on guns to save seconds or even tenths of seconds on the range. I am all about saving time anywhere I can because if there's one resource, we can't get back its "time". Flying shootist, and his wife Hail Hot Mary can attest, this plate has saved them significant time during their brass sorting. With that I am not here to make a significant amount of money on my products especially within a niche market as SASS, but my time isn't free and given these products are made of material that will last, it would be a good investment to free up your time to enjoy other activities. Like Lance said above he loves to shoot wild bunch but doesn't enjoy sorting his brass. I can't make these products for $20 or $40 bucks, as this isn't a product that I can sell thousands of since they are so specific to certain shooters. I have had a few potential interests and if I can get more, I could possibly make the interested buyers a better deal upon purchasing. COGS
watab kid Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 i did not realize so much had been out there to make that job easier , pretty cool
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