Major Crimes Posted May 20, 2024 Share Posted May 20, 2024 I am looking at Vihtavuori Powder as my other powders run down. I have looked at the data available, but it is mainly for jacketed ammo or 158gr proj. I have some N320 on order. Does anyone have some cowboy loads for 125, 130 or 140gr proj? EDIT- 38 spcl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Remington Posted May 20, 2024 Share Posted May 20, 2024 38 special or 357? I saw some loading data yesterday, I will go back and find it if others don't weight in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 Posted May 20, 2024 Share Posted May 20, 2024 Hey Major They are sure putting high prices on the 320...cheapest I've seen is $540 for 4 lbs & up to $650..I don't know where this is going to end as at the moment we are getting right royal arse ended down -under...smells big of Government interference, plain & simple they want our guns by what ever means possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Brown Posted May 20, 2024 Share Posted May 20, 2024 Here is some data Vihtavuori_Cowboy_Data.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Hunter SASS #20389L Posted May 20, 2024 Share Posted May 20, 2024 http://merlin555.free.fr/pn/Vihtavuori_Cowboy_Data.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted May 20, 2024 Author Share Posted May 20, 2024 12 hours ago, JP Remington said: 38 special or 357? I saw some loading data yesterday, I will go back and find it if others don't weight in. doh! 38 spcl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted May 20, 2024 Author Share Posted May 20, 2024 11 hours ago, Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 said: Hey Major They are sure putting high prices on the 320...cheapest I've seen is $540 for 4 lbs & up to $650..I don't know where this is going to end as at the moment we are getting right royal arse ended down -under...smells big of Government interference, plain & simple they want our guns by what ever means possible. Yep, some here are already having to cut it at 3 or 4 stages at the club events to eke out what they can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted May 20, 2024 Share Posted May 20, 2024 I like and use N320 these days in my .38's (3.2gr with mag primer and 125gr bullet), but the V-V powders have always been on the higher end of the price spectrum here in the states. Not nearly as bad as y'all, though! Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Remington Posted May 20, 2024 Share Posted May 20, 2024 Hey mate, I put a few of these loads into GRT and they look pretty accurate. I didn't bother with a cylinder gap in the calculations so the speed is a bit higher, but pressure is well within limits. It's predicting you may get some un-burnt powder but not a big deal. N320 has a pretty solid calibration score so I would have confidence in the load data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Eagle Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 I have been running 3.4 grains of N320 behind a 105 grain bullet at 1.500 OAL in 38 special brass. Nice load for me, but I seem to like a little more recoil than many of the guys I shoot with. I would try 3.2 grains with a 125 grain bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equanimous Phil Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 Here's two other threads about N320 for .38s: Vihtavuori N320 for cowboy loads - SASS Wire - SASS Wire Forum (sassnet.com) Vihtavuori N320 - SASS Wire - SASS Wire Forum (sassnet.com) I use N320 a lot, but only for .45 Colt and 9mm Para as I don't shoot .38s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 Its super clean IMO. I'm very happy to have now many many years of N320, N330, Clean Shot (Lovex DO32) stored away from the shipments that have come into Australia and also built up my primer stockpile from those huge shipments that have come in lately. All the members of my club have been able to purchase as much powder and primers as they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted May 21, 2024 Author Share Posted May 21, 2024 8 hours ago, JP Remington said: Hey mate, I put a few of these loads into GRT and they look pretty accurate. I didn't bother with a cylinder gap in the calculations so the speed is a bit higher, but pressure is well within limits. It's predicting you may get some un-burnt powder but not a big deal. N320 has a pretty solid calibration score so I would have confidence in the load data. WOW! Thanks for that JP. That's an impressive graph, if only I understood it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted May 21, 2024 Author Share Posted May 21, 2024 Thanks all, I may up my order and skip the test phase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Remington Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 16 minutes ago, Major Crimes said: WOW! Thanks for that JP. That's an impressive graph, if only I understood it No worries mate, basically all the dots on the curve represent hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted May 21, 2024 Author Share Posted May 21, 2024 42 minutes ago, JP Remington said: No worries mate, basically all the dots on the curve represent hits HITS? What are they? My philosophy is miss fast enough to win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackaroo, # 29989 Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 On 5/21/2024 at 7:07 AM, Major Crimes said: doh! 38 spcl. 3 grains is what you want. We used that in Czech republic perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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