I thought I had seen all television gun related stupidity

[Alpo]

NCIS. The New Orleans pilot. Gibbs and Bishop have gone down to New Orleans to help out the New Orleans office. And they're getting ready for a raid. Everybody is putting on their body armor and loading shotguns. Gibbs even comments on how well Bishop did at loading the shotgun - "Been practicing, Bishop".

 

And when they get to the suspect's house, and they get out of their cars, they're all carrying pistols. No shotguns to be seen.

 

I guess they left them back at the office.

[John Kloehr]

Continuity only matters between commercial breaks, I'll bet the sequences were across commercial breaks. You made the mistake of maintaining focus.

[Widder, SASS #59054]

Its possible that while getting 'prepared' for the raid, the SG was a Mossberg pump or 940 semi auto.

And during the drive to the raid site, GIBBS noticed that it wasn't a Beretta 1301 or Benelli M2 or M4

and told Bishop to leave it in the car.

 

Hey, its possible.  

 

..........Widder

 

[Pat Riot]

My wife and I have become very good at picking out “continuity infractions” as I like to call them. 
Years ago during the filming of Lethal Weapon 3 they were filming a very small segment of the film on the Metro Blue Line in Los Angeles. I was assigned to go provide support as they were using one of our trains in the film. My job was to make sure everything operated smoothly and not allow the director and film crew to do anything permanent to our train. 
Anyway, while I was there I met a guy whose job it was to maintain continuity during the filming. He was endure that all the surroundings appeared the same during each take. He had an assistant (whipping girl) that was helping him in this task. 
Every time they did a retake he and she would make sure everyone was in place the same way, clocks were set the same, visual things like if the destination sign on the train or station said something that they said that same something with each take. 
That guy was a moron. His assistant kept fixing things he missed then received his wrath for allowing him to make the mistake. What an ass he was.

I thought it was great later on when the film’s Asst Director called the guy out for not doing his job then later the Director jumped his butt. I put a bug in the Director’s ear that he should have hired the Asst Continuity person ( no idea what their title really is).

Almost forgot, this entire crew, including the director was very anti-gun and anti-2A. I would mention the directors name but I don’t want him getting any attention from me. 
They filmed one segment that didn’t make it to the film where a bad guy had an Uzi submachine gun. They took a break then retook the scene. Someone handed the bad guy an MP5. I saw it at the same time as the Asst Continuity lady did. She corrected the error then took a butt chewing from Continuity Boy. 
 

Side Note: I met the guy who developed a much safer way to create spider webs for film that were not flammable. He actually won an Oscar for it. You know in scary movies where spider webs hang in doorways and the actors have to brush the web out of the way? In the old days that stuff was dangerously flammable. Many film sets burned because of it. This guy developed spider webs that were non-flammable. His fix? Glue sticks in hot glue guns and a blow dryer.  Simple. 

[Alpo]

One of my favorites was an episode of Hogan's Heroes. Schultz had annoyed Klink, and was going to be transferred off. Hogan and the boys did not like this because it took such a long time to train Schultz, and they did not want to have to start over with a new guard.

 

Hogan and the boys are in town working as waiters at a party. Hogan calls Klink's attention to an attempted escape that had been foiled by Schultz.

 

Hogan opens a door and they can see Schultz, sitting in a chair, holding a submachine gun on the three frightened prisoners. The prisoners are saying, "We surrender Schultz. Don't shoot. We give up", etc.

 

The camera angle switches back and forth several times during that scene. You see the back of Schultz's head and the prisoners holding their hands up in fear. And you see it from the prisoners angle - Schultz passed out drunk in the chair, and behind him Hogan and the commandant.

 

From one camera angle Schultz has an MP40 pointed at the prisoners. From the other camera angle Schultz has a stockless Thompson submachine gun pointed at the prisoners.

 

Obviously they had shot the entire scene from behind, then they broke the scene down and turned everything around so it could be shot from the other direction. And then edited it together.

 

And the continuity girl had not made sure that Schultz had the same machine gun when they shot the scene the second time.

 

Then there was the fight at the river in The Searchers. Where Duke hands Ward Bond his pistol, and Ward has an AD. At various times during the fight Duke has a 92 SRC, and at other times he has a 92 short rifle. But hey, it's a 20-inch 92. Nobody will notice, right?

[punxsutawneypete]

A somewhat interesting flub in continuity happened on the Dukes of Hazzard.  Daisy Duke was driving in a car chase.  Another car was shown in the ongoing chase, and then went back to Daisy Duke, who was driving this whole time.  Somehow during an active car chase Daisy Duke managed to change into a different top while driving a moving car.  Of course, I was making these observations solely in the interest of production values.

[Buffalo Creek Law Dog]

I read that Jack Webb was a stickler for continuity. If the clock on the wall said 12:15 when they said cut.  He ensured that it said 12:15 when they resumed the same action.

[Capt. James H. Callahan]

On 7/11/2023 at 8:23 AM, Alpo said:

One of my favorites was an episode of Hogan's Heroes. Schultz had annoyed Klink, and was going to be transferred off. Hogan and the boys did not like this because it took such a long time to train Schultz, and they did not want to have to start over with a new guard.

 

Hogan and the boys are in town working as waiters at a party. Hogan calls Klink's attention to an attempted escape that had been foiled by Schultz.

 

Hogan opens a door and they can see Schultz, sitting in a chair, holding a submachine gun on the three frightened prisoners. The prisoners are saying, "We surrender Schultz. Don't shoot. We give up", etc.

 

The camera angle switches back and forth several times during that scene. You see the back of Schultz's head and the prisoners holding their hands up in fear. And you see it from the prisoners angle - Schultz passed out drunk in the chair, and behind him Hogan and the commandant.

 

From one camera angle Schultz has an MP40 pointed at the prisoners. From the other camera angle Schultz has a stockless Thompson submachine gun pointed at the prisoners.

 

Obviously they had shot the entire scene from behind, then they broke the scene down and turned everything around so it could be shot from the other direction. And then edited it together.

 

And the continuity girl had not made sure that Schultz had the same machine gun when they shot the scene the second time.

 

Then there was the fight at the river in The Searchers. Where Duke hands Ward Bond his pistol, and Ward has an AD. At various times during the fight Duke has a 92 SRC, and at other times he has a 92 short rifle. But hey, it's a 20-inch 92. Nobody will notice, right?

Dang you're good. I thought I knew every Hogan's Heroes bloopers. Maybe someday $%#$^ Dish Network will pull their head out and bring back MeTV so I can watch it some more. Got tired of watching the same old Andy Griffith and Hogan's Heroes episodes until they're gone. Wouldn't mind being bored again. Thank Heaven there are enough episodes of Gunsmoke on the bird we don't see that many duplicates. I am a truly blessed man. My wife LOVES Gunsmoke, don't watch much of the other Bravo Sierra on TV. Have taken a shine to Tales of Wells Fargo.

JHC

[Smokin Gator SASS #29736]

I saw one good scene in s movie "Ava". The main character Ava is in a fight and at one point the guy she's fighting has a semisuto pistol. They're wrestling over it and she manages to drop the magazine from the gun. As they continue she is able to rack the slide ejecting the live round from the chamber. They usually act as if just dropping the mag makes any semiauto useless while some guns can still fire depending on if they have a mag disconnect. 

[bgavin]

We watched The Mummy II last night.
She was shooting a 1911 style pistol that kept on firing even though the slide was racked back in the empty position.

Night before we watched Old Henry.
In the final shootout scene the bad guy was shooting his plowhandle revolver as a fast firing double-action.
It was just once, but enough to catch my eye.

[Rye Miles #13621]

A western movie stupid move is when they unload their single actions and they shake 'em so the empties drop out! No one tells them about the ejector rod? I've seen this in countless westerns!

[Alpo]

The television show Shane - David Carradine - instead of the seven and a half inch single action that Alan Ladd carried, he's carrying a sheriff's model. 3 inch barrel no ejector. And in the one episode I've seen, he's having a gunfight with the bad guys and he needs to reload, and he's hiding behind a tree while he's shaking the gun trying to get the empties to fall out.

 

I saw that and thought that was an awful stupid gun choice for a professional gunman.

 

[watab kid]

well - all i can say is "its only a movie" and they are all actors - XXX do they know of real life ? nothing 0- nothing at all , they play unreal people and live fairytail lives - then they preach to us what we should do/give up/think and how we should vote , i trhink my red neck A$$ needs lissin hollywood 

[Rye Miles #13621]

9 hours ago, watab kid said:

well - all i can say is "its only a movie" and they are all actors - XXX do they know of real life ? nothing 0- nothing at all , they play unreal people and live fairytail lives - then they preach to us what we should do/give up/think and how we should vote , i trhink my red neck A$$ needs lissin hollywood 

Yea I get that but what about the armorers that are supposed to advise the actors and directors? 

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

Watched a 1965 movie last night on Youtube, "The Glory Guys", that was pretty good with the firearms. The cavalrymen all had Springfield trapdoors and the scout actually had an 1873 Winchester, not an 1892!

 

However, during the main battle scene, the scout handed his empty 1873 Winchester to a soldier and told the soldier to reload it for him. Now where is the soldier going to get cartridges for a Winchester? Only the scout would be carrying that particular ammo.

[Pb Mark]

Met a famous TV actor once while walking down Hollywood Blvd.  Had a wonderful conversation with him. 

When I left, heard him still babbling a favorite Hindu chant and trying to figure out the meaning - "Ohh waaa - ta goo -  si am."

 

Told him to say it faster in order to help understand the meaning.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

There is stupidity all over TV. We get upset about the things that are gun related.

 

I saw one that really irked me. “He was a medic in the marines.”

 

Another, WW II sailor gets injured and calls “ Medic!”

[watab kid]

16 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Yea I get that but what about the armorers that are supposed to advise the actors and directors? 

thats a good point , i know they pay folks to be advisors based on their expertise , id like to know why if they arent going to listen to them , but then it is hollywood - most all of it is make believe ...what little isnt is interesting