Cutthroat Cody Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Would a tight crimp (on Quote When you have to shoot shoot, don't talk....... a .125 round in a .38 case with 3.3 of titegroup with Match Grade Primers), cause a squib? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 All things being equal - good powder, good primer, accurate weight, NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Tight crimp is good insurance AGAINST a squib, by raising combustion chamber pressures some. Squibs usually come from a failure to drop the weight of powder you think you are dropping, perhaps due to an operator mistake, a clump or foreign object in the powder, letting powder in measure get low, using contaminated powder, primer or case, and a ton of other reasons. Don't blame a tight crimp - that is not what your problem was. good luck, GJ "When you have to shoot - make sure you made good ammo!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 10 hours ago, Cutthroat Cody said: Would a tight crimp (on a .125 round in a .38 case with 3.3 of titegroup with Match Grade Primers), cause a squib? No it would not cause a squib, no powder would though! I use 3.6 grs Titegroup with a 125 gr bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutthroat Cody Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 thanks to all, learn more everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 My powder drop will is not reliable with Tight Group loads below 3.5 grains. Some measures will handle down to about 2.6 just fine, just none that I own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I always check the first couple of powder drops from measure just to be sure--never had it be off but that doesn't mean the next time will be correct either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajun bandit Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 would recommend a powder checker die in your loading procedure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I gotta disagree with all the fine folks above... first, that'd be a heck of crimp from a .38 case to a .125 bullet... Which as soon as it cleared the case mouth would likely stop cold! You'd end up with a might "whoosh" out the muzzle and a bullet left laying on the bore... but no worries, just tilt the muzzle down, it'll slide out easily! Not in the least, indicative of your typical "squib". I'm fairly certain that you meant a 125 grain bullet, indicating a weight, as I suspect the folks above assumed... But, in response to your highlited reference, a tight crimp is very unlikely to cause a squid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Now I am wondering.... Will a primer alone (no powder) cause a bullet to leave the brass with a good crimp? Will it move forward a little, or will it clear brass not stopping until it hits the forcing cone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I have seen cases of no movement of the bullet, and slug stuck in forcing cone, and slug stuck in barrel. If I shoot long enough, expect to see a bullet stuck in the throat of a cylinder but clear of the case (a short bullet for sure). Depends upon where the first spot tight enough to stop the motion of the slug occurs. Pretty common for a no-powder cartridge with a tight crimp to hold the slug right in the case, but not always. So much can vary with strengths of the metals and sizes of slug and chamber, throat, and barrel areas in the gun. good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Griff said: But, in response to your highlited reference, a tight crimp is very unlikely to cause a squid. Well, OK, so no calamari tonight. My conclusion is that the hypothetical situation with a sub-caliber bullet would not cause a squib, either. GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 23 minutes ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: I have seen cases of no movement of the bullet, and slug stuck in forcing cone, and slug stuck in barrel. If I shoot long enough, expect to see a bullet stuck in the throat of a cylinder but clear of the case (a short bullet for sure). Depends upon where the first spot tight enough to stop the motion of the slug occurs. Pretty common for a no-powder cartridge with a tight crimp to hold the slug right in the case, but not always. So much can vary with strengths of the metals and sizes of slug and chamber, throat, and barrel areas in the gun. good luck, GJ A Pard had one this weekend that stopped half way between the cylinder and barrel. Locked it up right smartly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 minute ago, Eyesa Horg said: A Pard had one this weekend that stopped half way between the cylinder and barrel. Locked it up right smartly. That one falls in the category: "slug stuck in forcing cone" good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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