Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Well, I'll be dipped in snuff! The Ruger Mk IV is now california legal! How on Earth did THAT ever come about??? https://ruger.com/products/markIVTarget/specSheets/40183.html I want one... although I will admit to being perfectly happy with my 1983 vintage Mk II. Mark II Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Up until this news, heard it yesterday, Ruger had refused to submit semiautos for testing except for that weird .380 compact. The LC380? I heard the Mk 4 was now legal because of some court decision, but I don’t know that for sure. It’s what I read somewhere else. Hopefully some of our California haters will step in and tell us all how much they hate California for the 153rd time and enlighten everyone on all their vast and superior knowledge of California and how everyone that lives there is a Commie leftist pinko fag. Hell even the gun owners and those that love the Constitution there are evil and stupid, right? Too much?…I figured I would get this in before someone’s frilly little panties got in a bunch and they’d have to prove their manhood by grumping about and acting all macho and he-manly… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 The SR-22 just became California legal as well! I was surprised to see it as I had heard Ruger wasn’t going to pay for any testing for California. good to see some new guns becoming available for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 @Pat Riot, SASS #13748 I heard it was Boland v Bonta last March. Basically said the microstamping requirement is unconstitutional because it is not technically possibly. https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/handgun/mark-iv-40183 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Quote Hopefully some of our California haters will step in and tell us all how much they hate California for the 153rd time and enlighten everyone on all their vast and superior knowledge of California and how everyone that lives there is a Commie leftist pinko fag. Hell even th I think you missed a few, I have it as 172. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Up until this news, heard it yesterday, Ruger had refused to submit semiautos for testing except for that weird .380 compact. The LC380? Hey, now... I have one o' them "weird .380 compact LC380's!" It's okay. Not as exciting as a lot of other guns, but heck... it works. When I bought it... lessee... ten years ago? I'd set out to buy a concelable pistol, and it was literally about the only one I could find! We were experiencing a severe pistol drought in these parts. I'd seen a stainless PPK in a store, went back the next day to buy it and dang, the shelves were bare - except for this one lonesome LC380. Wasn't what I really wanted, but it was available. Heck... we weren't allowed pocket-sized the Ruger LCP .380, and not even the LC9 - the 9mm version of the LC380. Interesting - not allowed the 9mm version, but we can buy an LC380 and then the 9mm conversion kit for a mere $320. https://shopruger.com/LC9-Conversion-Kit-for-LC380-Pistol/productinfo/90499/ Which reminds me! When the Mark II .22 was released, they were scarce as hen's teeth. I literally spent months trying to find one, and frequently checked with gun shops from Bakersfield to Redding, and from the coast east to Sacramento and beyond. No joy. Then one day I went into the now long gone Tri-Cities Sporting Goods in Fremont to buy a bicycle. And, as was my custom, detoured through the gun department. As I was passing by, I saw the sales dude just placing a pistol into the glass case and immediately hit the brakes. "Hey! Is that a Mark II?" I asked. "Why, yes it is!" he replied, with the pistol still in his hand. "I'LL TAKE IT!" "Damn!" the fella said. "I usually at least get to set 'em down first!" So that day I bought a Univega bicycle and a Ruger Mk II pistol. (although I wouldn't get to take the Ruger home for a couple of weeks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I bought one of those Ruger Mark IV about 10 years ago. I was cruising through the local gun store, minding my own business, when I saw the Mark IV listed for $249.00. I thought that was a pretty decent price and bought it. We get to take our guns home the same day. I still take it out occasionally and shoot it. Fun pistol to shoot but kind of a pain to reload. Only holds the politically correct 10 rounds. Never, ever take it apart if you don't have the owner's manual handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: Never, ever take it apart if you don't have the owner's manual handy. The Mk IV is a breeze to take apart for cleaning. Push one button and the upper comes right off. Reassembly is is also easy. The Mk 1, 2, and 3 on the other hand can be next to impossible to reassemble. There used to be a guy at Ruger whose full time job was reassembling pistols that people sent back in a box because they couldn't get them back together. I have the 22/45 variant of the Mk IV and love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: Hey, now... I have one o' them "weird .380 compact LC380's!" Oh, I should have rephrased that. It’s not so much that I think the gun is weird as it is that Ruger picked that particular gun to be the one they kept on the CA roster. Here’s the odd part. I never saw one in any gun store I frequented. 6 hours ago, sassnetguy50 said: @Pat Riot, SASS #13748 I heard it was Boland v Bonta last March. Basically said the microstamping requirement is unconstitutional because it is not technically possibly. https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/handgun/mark-iv-40183 That was it. Boland vs Bonta. Thank you. I guess the mag disconnect and the loaded chamber indicator are still required as are the silly costly testing for each model to pass their “safety tests”. ——————————————— I went and looked at the CA Roster and only one model of each the Mk IV snd SR22 are listed. Still, I am happy to see they’re on there. I started looking to see if there were other manufacturer’s guns listed but the website got screwy like it always did and I quit looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Pat, does this mean you'll be moving back to California? ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Good for the California pards. I have a Standard Model and a Mark II target version. Both are in the do-not-sell category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Pat, does this mean you'll be moving back to California? ..........Widder Did you hear that? That was me yelling “HELL NO!” towards Tennessee. I am having a hard time wrapping my head around my wife’s request to go there for Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Boland V Bonta did away with Loaded Chamber Indicator and Magazine Disconnect requirements as well. I’m glad cause gun control failing in other states, makes it less likely to gain traction here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: I think you missed a few, I have it as 172. I think Pat was talking about this month so far. 1 hour ago, WOLFY said: Boland V Bonta did away with Loaded Chamber Indicator and Magazine Disconnect requirements as well. I’m glad cause gun control failing in other states, makes it less likely to gain traction here. But the wethers (thanks for that word, Hardpan) and capons in the Sacramento Reichstag will dig in and fight harder against our constitutionally protected civil rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Up until this news, heard it yesterday, Ruger had refused to submit semiautos for testing except for that weird .380 compact. The LC380? I heard the Mk 4 was now legal because of some court decision, but I don’t know that for sure. It’s what I read somewhere else. Hopefully some of our California haters will step in and tell us all how much they hate California for the 153rd time and enlighten everyone on all their vast and superior knowledge of California and how everyone that lives there is a Commie leftist pinko fag. Hell even the gun owners and those that love the Constitution there are evil and stupid, right? Too much?…I figured I would get this in before someone’s frilly little panties got in a bunch and they’d have to prove their manhood by grumping about and acting all macho and he-manly… And yet YOU don't live there any more! Do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: I am having a hard time wrapping my head around my wife’s request to go there for Christmas. Do like I do, I just let her go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 The wife bought an LC380 for her first carry gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: And yet YOU don't live there any more! Do we? No you don’t. Just get sick of hearing so-called “Pards” berating other Pards as if their the enemy or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 A stainless Ruger Mark IV Target with a suppressor is my latest grail/fantasy/goal/Christmas list entry. Pretty extravagant for a range toy, but I've shot one and WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Lizard Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 22 hours ago, Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 said: The SR-22 just became California legal as well! I was surprised to see it as I had heard Ruger wasn’t going to pay for any testing for California. good to see some new guns becoming available for us. Give 1, take away 2...Is what they would like to do.... Texas Lizard Yes I live here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 11:30 PM, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: Hey, now... I have one o' them "weird .380 compact LC380's!" It's okay. Not as exciting as a lot of other guns, but heck... it works. When I bought it... lessee... ten years ago? I'd set out to buy a concelable pistol, and it was literally about the only one I could find! We were experiencing a severe pistol drought in these parts. I'd seen a stainless PPK in a store, went back the next day to buy it and dang, the shelves were bare - except for this one lonesome LC380. Wasn't what I really wanted, but it was available. Heck... we weren't allowed pocket-sized the Ruger LCP .380, and not even the LC9 - the 9mm version of the LC380. Interesting - not allowed the 9mm version, but we can buy an LC380 and then the 9mm conversion kit for a mere $320. https://shopruger.com/LC9-Conversion-Kit-for-LC380-Pistol/productinfo/90499/ Which reminds me! When the Mark II .22 was released, they were scarce as hen's teeth. I literally spent months trying to find one, and frequently checked with gun shops from Bakersfield to Redding, and from the coast east to Sacramento and beyond. No joy. Then one day I went into the now long gone Tri-Cities Sporting Goods in Fremont to buy a bicycle. And, as was my custom, detoured through the gun department. As I was passing by, I saw the sales dude just placing a pistol into the glass case and immediately hit the brakes. "Hey! Is that a Mark II?" I asked. "Why, yes it is!" he replied, with the pistol still in his hand. "I'LL TAKE IT!" "Damn!" the fella said. "I usually at least get to set 'em down first!" So that day I bought a Univega bicycle and a Ruger Mk II pistol. (although I wouldn't get to take the Ruger home for a couple of weeks) I bought a S&W model 66 w/4" barrel there in 1998. It was about a year later that the hoplophobes on the city council passed a tax on gross receipts on stores selling guns. Tri-Cities firearm sales was only a small part of their gross so they removed their firearms dept. Oakland soon followed with the same tax so Siegels a family owned sporting goods store that sold firearms closed the business. SF did the same thing however the SF Gun Exchange in the financial district closed not because the tax but the landlord raised the lease by an astronomical amount. Bought a Bushnell Holosight & a H&K USP40 there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I guess unlike before Bruen the majority of the 9th Circus judges or the AG have seen the handwriting on the wall & like the IL AG or DC district attorney when the respective circuit courts declared their concealed carry may issue or ban unconstitutional. The AG's in the other may issue states convinced them to not appeal to SCOTUS so they could continue to enforce their may issue laws. Their tactic has worked for many years. Bruen has shorted the time that such delaying tactic will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted May 30, 2023 Author Share Posted May 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, J.D. Daily said: I bought a S&W model 66 w/4" barrel there in 1998. It was about a year later that the hoplophobes on the city council passed a tax on gross receipts on stores selling guns. Tri-Cities firearm sales was only a small part of their gross so they removed their firearms dept. Oakland soon followed with the same tax so Siegels a family owned sporting goods store that sold firearms closed the business. SF did the same thing however the SF Gun Exchange in the financial district closed not because the tax but the landlord raised the lease by an astronomical amount. Bought a Bushnell Holosight & a H&K USP40 there. I LOVED the old SFGE. Practically haunted the place; for a period of several years I worked at Market and Van Ness and made many a lunchtime pilgrimage to the shop. Bought my Stevens 5100 from Nate Posner when I was 18 or 19, and eventually ended up on a "first name basis" with Bob and his sister and most of the staff.... It was a sad day indeed when they shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jailhouse Jim, SASS #13104 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/28/2023 at 8:07 AM, WOLFY said: Boland V Bonta did away with Loaded Chamber Indicator and Magazine Disconnect requirements as well. I’m glad cause gun control failing in other states, makes it less likely to gain traction here. Actually no they didn't. Those requirements are still in litigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: I LOVED the old SFGE. Practically haunted the place; for a period of several years I worked at Market and Van Ness and made many a lunchtime pilgrimage to the shop. Bought my Stevens 5100 from Nate Posner when I was 18 or 19, and eventually ended up on a "first name basis" with Bob and his sister and most of the staff.... It was a sad day indeed when they shut down. I didn't know the family. My gun collector coworker would drop in frequently when he took me along for technical support when calling on PE firms & the SF Water Utilities Engineering Bureau. This started in the 90's when he became a "sales engineer" for my employer. He escaped CA last year when he retired to southern CO. The 1st thing he bought was a CA banned 9mm assault pistol. 5 minutes ago, Jailhouse Jim, SASS #13104 said: Actually no they didn't. Those requirements are still in litigation. So Bonta appealed the district court judge's injunction? And the 9th Circuits didn't stay the injunction like the mag limit case? It would be nice to not have my daughter & son not asking for off roster handguns for birthdays & Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jailhouse Jim, SASS #13104 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 6 hours ago, J.D. Daily said: So Bonta appealed the district court judge's injunction? And the 9th Circuits didn't stay the injunction like the mag limit case? It would be nice to not have my daughter & son not asking for off roster handguns for birthdays & Christmas. The State appealed the injunction without the microstamping requirement so the injunction was stayed. I believe it is going to the 3-judge panel of the 9th Circuit now to keep the mag disconnect and safety as well as the drop test. The State will keep this tied up for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/28/2023 at 7:31 AM, Sedalia Dave said: The Mk IV is a breeze to take apart for cleaning. Push one button and the upper comes right off. Reassembly is is also easy. The Mk 1, 2, and 3 on the other hand can be next to impossible to reassemble. There used to be a guy at Ruger whose full time job was reassembling pistols that people sent back in a box because they couldn't get them back together. I have the 22/45 variant of the Mk IV and love it. I recall pushing out the wrong pin and a bunch of tiny parts fell out. Dad had to take it to a gunsmith buddy to get it back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 dont know how it happened but im happy for yall that you can have them , legally now , never made sense that you couldnt to me , im a fan of the mkI & mkII as well , but i like vintage 22s , its mostly all i have , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 17 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: I recall pushing out the wrong pin and a bunch of tiny parts fell out. Dad had to take it to a gunsmith buddy to get it back together. There is an easy fix for the reassembly PITA. It is called HSS Hammer Strut Support that is $20. The website is https://www.hammerstrutsupport.com/ It fills in the space behind the lower cross pin so that the hammer strut won't go behind it. Well worth the $20 plus shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 On 5/30/2023 at 12:18 PM, Jailhouse Jim, SASS #13104 said: Actually no they didn't. Those requirements are still in litigation. my bad - i thought some of the newly rostered handguns didn’t have all the fearures. thanks for clarification, J Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 I have a Mark I. When do you suppose those were made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Law Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 I picked up the MkIV Tactical a few months ago and mated it with the Silencerco Switchback suppressor. What an absolute blast this is to shoot. I have an older MkII but it's so nice I don't want to beat it up and I wanted something for 22LR Steel challenge matches. This fit the bill perfectly. I hooked it up with the Swampfox Justice RDS and if you haven't tried the Swampfox it's been very good. It has a huge window and is great for picking up the next target. My only complaint is that there are umpteen different mag base plates for the MK series and they are not interchangeable. JEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: I have a Mark I. When do you suppose those were made? Ruger's first semiautomatic .22 was called the Standard model, introduced in 1949. The Mark I, the target model, was introduced in 1950 and continued until the Mark II was introduced in 1982. Above from a Wiki article, which provides a good summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Standard My Mark I was made in 1973 and still shoots just dandy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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